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It’s time to talk to the bears


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2020 Jan 21, 6:54am   854 views  7 comments

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Short short video, basically this old economist makes the (rather shallow(does anyone need to go to school to make this sort of prediction?)) forecast of a recession in 2020 or 2021, based on “historical data.”

Basically, his argument is that capitalist systems go through boom and bust cycles, and they happen inevitably, and usually on a schedule.

This much is true.

However, what he DOESNT address is any mention of the underlying causes of this inevitable cycle! You’d think that an old ass economist would have a LITTLE bit of insight on this.

I watched a TEDx lecture a few months ago about a warning for capitalists and oligarchs. It went like this: capitalism is a great system for creating wealth, but it is inherently unstable and prone to driving itself into ruin on a regular basis. What the great machine of capitalism needs is regular maintenance, to make sure the parts don’t get out of balance and tear the whole engine apart in a mad spin.
One of the primary ways it gets unbalanced is unfair worker compensation. When the oligarchs get their way, wages go down, worker’s rights are eliminated, and CEO compensation goes through the roof. Production rises to epic levels and profits are high... BUT!!!! Consumption drops steadily, as the general workforce has less money to spend. And general unrest grows and grows until it becomes unsustainable. Crime rises, as the disaffected and the disenfranchised rebel against the system which is making their lives irrelevant. And the economy becomes anemic, and then turns South. Then we have a recession.
Or if it is bad enough, a Depression, or even a populist revolt!

This is when people turn to socialist ideas and communism rises to ideological supremacy.
This explains how an old socialist with communist tendencies rises to national prominence on the DNC stage, vying hard for the Presidency.

The solution is to provide protections for the working class against the excesses of capitalist thinking. Make sure people have jobs that pay enough to live on, an opportunity to advance. This keeps people on the treadmill and happy as they can be. And the economy does well with more economic participation!

This is what Trump has been trying to do. At Davos yesterday, he touted a massive 47% rise in the net worth of the bottom half of America as a sign that things are getting better here. Wage gains have been concentrated at the low end, lifting people out of poverty and into the consumer class. This has made our economy stronger and more resilient!

All this MAGA is correcting the imbalance in the great engine of capitalism. Those at the top don’t like it, because it decreases their personal power and control, and they control the press so they make their wishes known. The Democrats have thrown their lot in with the slavers as usual, and are actively trying to stop our President from fixing the system. Their last ditch effort to stop him is impeachment.

I think we all should consider impeachment as a sign that Trump is doing something right! We sent him to the Oval Office to break the corrupt and constrictive system and make things right. There is bound to be push back from the people who benefitted from the corruption.

And isn’t it fitting that their last desperate effort revolves around a corrupt politician who Trump exposed for what he is, just as the Democrats were grooming him to be our next President?

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/479073-economist-predicts-recession-by-2020

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1   HeadSet   2020 Jan 21, 7:00am  

And isn’t it fitting that their last desperate effort revolves around a corrupt politician who Trump exposed for what he is, just as the Democrats were grooming him to be our next President?

That sentence is a great synopsis of what the Dems have been doing for three years.
2   Shaman   2020 Jan 21, 11:59am  

Krugman predicted a recession if Trump was elected. All this just leads me to believe that economists don’t understand their own subject!
3   theoakman   2020 Jan 21, 12:36pm  

Economics is an RPG simulation. They think every economy is two islands, connected by a highway, and 5 guys living on the island named Jack...one of whom is the government, but nobody knows it.
4   rocketjoe79   2020 Jan 21, 12:48pm  

If economists are so good, why aren't they the richest people in the world?
5   AD   2020 Mar 14, 7:35am  

Shaman says
However, what he DOESNT address is any mention of the underlying causes of this inevitable cycle!


Yes, that's why I like to track consumer debt stats through the NY Federal Reserve website as well as other stats and metrics like P/E ratio and median home price to household income ratio. But I agree, the nature of our economic system is dependent on a cycle with a historic median period (T) of 8 to 15 years.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio

https://www.longtermtrends.net/home-price-median-annual-income-ratio/
6   clambo   2020 Mar 14, 8:12am  

Shaman makes a good point.
Importing foreign workers drives American worker wages down, and only benefits the owners.
The arguments for importing workers are the same made for slavery.
The only way to balance the power a little is limiting or stopping a growing labor supply.
7   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Mar 14, 8:23am  

Shaman says
Krugman predicted a recession if Trump was elected. All this just leads me to believe that economists don’t understand their own subject!


He was spewing propaganda, I wouldn’t even call him economist.

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