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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   162,422 views  3,355 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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1   Shaman   2020 Jan 24, 12:36pm  

A scientist from Johns Hopkins already did three months ago, finding that such a disease could cause 65 million deaths worldwide.

https://newspunch.com/scientists-predicted-coronavirus-could-kill-65-million-in-warning-3-months-before-deadly-outbreak-in-china/
2   rocketjoe79   2020 Jan 24, 12:46pm  

Wuhan is about 11 million, so I would expect about 33,000 deaths. If it were to go Global, with full exposure, possibly 230 million. But containment is already underway, so this is highly unlikely. Perhaps another 1000 globally.

Not close to a culling. Humanity survives and thrives.
3   Bd6r   2020 Jan 24, 12:52pm  

I see a trend - every 2 years or so we have a pandemic which will kill all hupersonity. Ebola, swine flu, bird flu, now this coronavirus. A cynic in me says that media needs a crisis so that people would actually tune in, so journalists are running around screaming "we will all gonna die tomorrow". Just look at newscasters when hurricane hits, they all have on-air orgasms. Additionally, pharma industry also benefits form these scares.
4   Shaman   2020 Jan 24, 12:53pm  

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/01/24/china-closes-great-wall-forbidden-city-to-contain-coronavirus/

So China is closing down all Lunar New Year festivals just for fun? That’s like calling off Christmas for us.
They are sending in the army to try to contain the virus, but hospitals are turning people away rather than testing them, and Chinese scared of their own government are using fever reducing meds to escape temperature checks.
Meanwhile, it killed a little girl in Los Angeles.
5   Shaman   2020 Jan 24, 12:55pm  

Time to pack your house with medicines, stock up on antibiotics and anti virals! Plant yams!
And put a few metal spikes on your front bumper!
6   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Jan 24, 1:09pm  

It seems to grow exponentially, ignoring containment efforts. So I think it will be a big one.
Even 2% deaths could climb up in millions easily.
But then again millions of people do die of the flu, and no one is scared.
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jan 24, 1:13pm  

rd6B says
I see a trend - every 2 years or so we have a pandemic which will kill all hupersonity. Ebola, swine flu, bird flu, now this coronavirus. A cynic in me says that media needs a crisis so that people would actually tune in, so journalists are running around screaming "we will all gonna die tomorrow". Just look at newscasters when hurricane hits, they all have on-air orgasms. Additionally, pharma industry also benefits form these scares.



Who wants to bet that those who had the flu virus didn't get this strain included in the vaccine.

Don't expect the media to point this out in the Fall.
10   tovarichpeter   2020 Jan 24, 2:47pm  

Unfortunately China is not a credible source of information but what we do know suggests they are scared. We just put our trip to Taiwan off until further notice
11   mell   2020 Jan 24, 2:49pm  

They already had a few cases in the US and could study them - the virus is anywhere from mild to severe but not deadly unless immunocompromised. It's not a pandemic. Still these type of coronoavirus lung infections are nasty and you don't want to catch it.
12   Blue   2020 Jan 24, 3:16pm  

The real question is, how long we hold the evolution with pharma.
15   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Jan 24, 4:08pm  

Almost 1,000 cases and more than 40 deaths
16   mell   2020 Jan 24, 4:23pm  

1st patient that was seemingly healthy before died but all others were 60 or older or had pre-existing conditions. Europe and the US are pretty good at Quarantines and it surely is less infectious than Ebola. Theoretically they should be able to contain it by requiring people not to have close contact with others and maintaining good hygiene (wash hands etc.). It's just too crowded over there in many provinces. Hope they get it under control in China.
17   Eman   2020 Jan 24, 4:26pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Almost 1,000 cases and more than 40 deaths


It was 830 cases yesterday and 25 deaths. It’s going up fast. My Chinese friend said the rich folks knew about this and fled months ago. The people spreading the news got arrested for spreading “fake news.” 😂😂😂
18   RC2006   2020 Jan 24, 4:33pm  

Human race needs a virus that can take out half of population, preferably striking fastest growing populations the hardest.
19   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 24, 5:08pm  

It's been around for over a month 1000 cases is nothing.
China will use it to crush the Hong Kong uprising, in the name of public health.
And the rest of the world will use it as a mandate to force Flu shots for the next 6 years.
I'm still waiting for the Sars, HN1, Avian Flu and all of the other hyped up medical cases to actually yield a world wide pandemic.


The Fact is there will never be another Swine Flu epidemic like in the early 1900's ever again. The world for the most part is too developed.
In the early 1900's and earlier, most streets worldwide were not paved, many people didn't even have sewer systems. Many cities were still tossing their piss pot out into the street every morning. People lived in leaky shanty and shacks that leaked like a sieve, the streets were wet, your house was wet. There was no where to get out of the bad weather and take care of yourself. By time you made it to the hospital pneumonia had already taken hold. Millions of people died world wide as a result. By the 1976 epidemic and subsequent outbreaks, cases are measured in the thousands, and deaths are measured by the hundreds.

Unless our infrastructure breaks down and people go back to living like they did before modern times, I don't think influenza will ever be as bad as it was then.
Ebola, Plague, and the types of bugs that give you pox and liquefies your inside, are the ones that scare me.
The WHO couldn't be bothered the last Ebola outbreak. So they have zero credibility with me.
I don't trust a damn thing those lying commie mother fuckers say for one minute.
20   Ceffer   2020 Jan 25, 10:31am  

Tenpoundbass says
China will use it to crush the Hong Kong uprising, in the name of public health.


What are the uses of biologic terrorism? Controlling your own population perhaps? Speculation is that it came from China's own bio weapons labs.

If you think about it, unleashing a severe, but just moderately lethal, pathogen on a rebellious populace, to which authorities already have a vaccine (for selected individuals?), is a great way to impose martial law and terrify people into not congregating. The limited lethality could also be used as a cover for selective assassinations by poison but under color of the epidemic. Plenty of survivors, so just the cost of rule?

Of course, worse things have been done by governments to their own people to hold power. Any other populations that contract it are just collateral damage and weakening them isn't such a bad thing, anyway.
21   just_passing_through   2020 Jan 25, 10:35am  

Shaman says
put a few metal spikes on your front bumper


Never forget the metal spikes! Never ever forget them!
22   clambo   2020 Jan 25, 10:44am  

China reminds me of the Looney Toons Tasmanian Devil episode, Bugs reads what the devil eats and it’s a long list.
23   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 25, 10:45am  

Ceffer says
What are the uses of biologic terrorism? Controlling your own population perhaps? Speculation is that it came from China's own bio weapons labs.


Perhaps, but the point is this outbreak is not as cause for the global concern that it is, I hope I'm not wrong.
But on the face of what is actually being reported, this isn't as bad a regular flu season outbreak. 23 deaths is nothing in the scheme of things.
There's a rumor saying it's really bad and the real numbers aren't being reported. Yet we're getting video of people either laying on the ground, or falling face first but breaking their fall with their arms. It's the same 3 or 4 videos being share over and over. If this was a widespread as rumors report, there would be more videos than the same few I've seen for the last two days. Also I saw a fake news site with a picture from some apocalyptic outbreak movie, with thousands of people in body bags. With small print under it, saying Illustrative Portrayal.
26   mell   2020 Jan 25, 5:12pm  

The flu sickens more than 10 million Americans each year and kills between 5000-50000 or more Americans every year and many more worldwide. Just to put this into perspective. Have a Corona without the virus.
27   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Jan 25, 8:03pm  

Around 2000 cases, 56 deaths.
28   Shaman   2020 Jan 25, 8:30pm  

That is WAAAAAY higher mortality rate than the flu or any other virus that isn’t behind the walls of a maximum containment facility. That’s almost 3%.
29   Eman   2020 Jan 25, 10:35pm  

Check out this short video clip explaining the coronavirus. I think this virus is underestimated. The incubation period is 5 days or so. By the time we know about it, it’s days 9-14. I hope our minimal US infected numbers hold, or our government should consider banning all flights from China if it gets worse. I hope I am wrong.

There are some info floating out there in Chinese with the medical staff claiming the actual infected people in China is over 90,000.

www.youtube.com/embed/Nk5P_iRYwTY
30   clambo   2020 Jan 25, 11:08pm  

This is scary.
I’m gonna be a hermit for a while I think, no crowds for me.
31   Eman   2020 Jan 26, 12:15am  

Here’s the article where a nurse treating coronavirus claimed 90,000 people infected.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7929657/Nurse-treating-coronavirus-sufferers-China-claims-90-000-people-infected.html
32   Eman   2020 Jan 26, 12:17am  

From the article:

“The news was announced on Saturday as three doctors in Beijing were reported to have been infected with the coronavirus, according to state media China National Radio. Among the three confirmed cases, which were diagnosed on Tuesday and Saturday, two were back from Wuhan and the third did not go there but was sitting next to one doctor back from Wuhan in a meeting in Beijing.”

Sitting next to someone who is infected got him infected. The infected doctor was likely during the incubation period where he showed no sign of fever or whatsoever.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047655/chinas-communist-party-sets-leading-group-handle-coronavirus
33   RC2006   2020 Jan 26, 6:43am  

Cases in OC CA.
34   HeadSet   2020 Jan 26, 8:45am  

So, who here is stocking up on N95 masks?
35   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 26, 8:51am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Around 2000 cases, 56 deaths.


Am I the only one that sees what a huge nothing burger this virus is. 2000 cases for a bug that spread around China, Asia, Europe and America.
That's nothing, not even microscopic in global scheme of things.
36   RC2006   2020 Jan 26, 8:51am  

HeadSet says
So, who here is stocking up on N95 masks?


Ha was just talking to coworker about putting in an order to Granger, its FOB city around here.
37   RC2006   2020 Jan 26, 8:54am  

Tenpoundbass says
Heraclitusstudent says
Around 2000 cases, 56 deaths.


Am I the only one that sees what a huge nothing burger this virus is. 2000 cases for a bug that spread around China, Asia, Europe and America.
That's nothing, not even microscopic in global scheme of things.


I'd agree if accurate numbers are being given. This thing has two week incubation period that gives it a long time to move around and spread. Going to cull a lot of elderly and people with other conditions if it goes wild.

Edit: Was wrong incubation only 3days
38   mell   2020 Jan 26, 9:10am  

RC2006 says
Tenpoundbass says
Heraclitusstudent says
Around 2000 cases, 56 deaths.


Am I the only one that sees what a huge nothing burger this virus is. 2000 cases for a bug that spread around China, Asia, Europe and America.
That's nothing, not even microscopic in global scheme of things.


I'd agree if accurate numbers are being given. This thing has two week incubation period that gives it a long time to move around and spread. Going to cull a lot of elderly and people with other conditions if it goes wild.

Edit: Was wrong incubation only 3days


The numbers may be underreported in China but not here, and though it seems highly infectious (mouth and potentially eyes) it still is less infectious than Ebola and the flu. So it seems very exaggerated at this point. It may unfortunately get a lot of older and immunocompromised people in China but can't see it making a dent in the Western world - so far all the patients in the Western world are either stable or doing well. Definitely flight restrictions and quarantines are in order though until we know more.
39   mell   2020 Jan 26, 9:12am  

RC2006 says
HeadSet says
So, who here is stocking up on N95 masks?


Ha was just talking to coworker about putting in an order to Granger, its FOB city around here.


Unless you're in a hospital setting or maybe public transit, very close proximity with bad ventilation masks are a waste. Just avoid crowds and wash your hands at all times, esp. before touching your face. Same precautions as for the flu.
40   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Jan 26, 9:16am  

So far the growth is around 60% a day.

Projecting this, it will be a million cases in 2 weeks.

They will ban travels to Asia unless absolutely necessary, ask people to work from home where they can, and maybe close schools.

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