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I miss Turtledove...RIP

By porkchopexpress follow porkchopexpress   2020 Feb 15, 5:45pm 2,459 views  41 comments           share      

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2   BayArea   2020 Feb 15, 6:35pm  

Were there any definitive conclusion that came out regarding what happened?
3   porkchopexpress   2020 Feb 15, 8:09pm  

BayArea says
Were there any definitive conclusion that came out regarding what happened?
No idea. I’d love to hear if anyone knows more. Patrick maybe?
4   RC2006   2020 Feb 15, 9:25pm  

Somebody here must be following case I figured. Is her husband in jail or awaiting trial?
5   WookieMan   2020 Feb 16, 5:33am  

Just looked into it, but haven't been following. Without media reporting on it, this mostly looks like procedural legal shit so far. Looks like it's starting to get to the meaty courtroom part soon though.

If anyone wants to look further into it or has connections, here's the Orange County case # 19HF0572 and some screen shots of the current activity. 3/3/2020 looks like the next court date.
6   Tenpoundbass   2020 Feb 16, 7:48am  

Did anyone else have a detective contact them to grill them on where they were, what's their relationship with the decease and what did they mean by comments in the original thread?
7   Ceffer   2020 Feb 16, 9:54am  

Gotta give the lawyers a couple of years of delayed justice to soak the perp and system for every last dollar first. Fleecing procedure isn't done yet.
8   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 10:16am  

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WookieMan says
If anyone wants to look further into it or has connections, here's the Orange County case # 19HF0572


Would you post a link to the case details above ? Or does it require some sort of acct and access to a state system ?

I found the case, but not details. Given time, perhaps I would find it, but do you have a link ?

https://ocapps.occourts.org/CourtIndex/case_details_criminal.jsp?cn=19HF0572&pi=10110810&iped=false&isc=&sct=0#ocDetailsA
9   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 10:18am  

personal
10   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 10:22am  

Never mind wookie, I found it.

https://ocjustice.occourts.org/Vision_PublicNS/Case.do#first

Not much more detail than this though.
11   WookieMan   2020 Feb 16, 10:34am  

marcus says
Never mind wookie, I found it.

https://ocjustice.occourts.org/Vision_PublicNS/Case.do#first

Not much more detail than this though.

Yes, sorry. Usually these public court case sites don't do well with sharing links due to the specific nature of the search, so I didn't even try to share (I think your link is dead FYI). I searched his first and last name and for some reason it didn't show the info as detailed. I found the case # via an article and that's how I was able to see more. So that's why I shared that.
12   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Feb 16, 10:36am  

I regret that I missed that meetup she and the alleged perpetrator and others of you attended at the Jewish deli.

We got stuck in horrible traffic on the 880, then freaking BART delays because they were single tracking between Lake Merritt and West Oakland.

By the time we got to SF the event was ended.

Sent this thread, with some other links, to Dateline NBC.
13   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 10:40am  

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Yeah I missed the one in LA. She was an interesting woman. I wonder if her sometimes hanging out on Patrick.net was in any way connected to the fact that she might have been in a crazy relationship (more crazy than the usual that is). Making online friends that would notice and ask questions if she disappeared. Just a thought.
14   WookieMan   2020 Feb 16, 11:18am  

marcus says
personal

What did he post that was personal? I may have missed it but I responded to comment 12 which was after this one? I didn't see anything that warranted a flag, but I could be wrong.
15   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Feb 16, 11:23am  

It was flagged personal, something about TPB. I always try NOT to flag something personal, unless it's pretty damned obvious and I can't find a reason to let it go.

Update: That might have been from another thread.
16   Shaman   2020 Feb 16, 11:32am  

I emailed back and forth with her for a while, exchanging ideas on home renovations. She was a real energetic and engaged person, smart and personable. If her husband did it, he’s guilty of taking one of the good ones out of this sorry world.
17   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Feb 16, 11:36am  

Post history and times could be useful.
18   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 1:21pm  

It was a half joking comment in reponse to this.

Tenpoundbass says
Did anyone else have a detective contact them to grill them on where they were, what's their relationship with the decease and what did they mean by comments in the original thread?


Something to the effect that at times TPBs comments on the forum might reflect the mindset of someone that should be looked in to as a suspect. That he shouldn't be surprised.

I said it in a more colorful way though. I doubt TPB minded. He must know the image he sometimes projects.

Tpb is in FLorida (supposedly), so it does seem strange, and he might have even been kidding about being contacted by a detective.
19   Tenpoundbass   2020 Feb 16, 2:14pm  

marcus says
Tpb is in FLorida (supposedly), so it does seem strange, and he might have even been kidding about being contacted by a detective.


Yes it did seem strange, and you're right I do live in South Florida, and everyone knew I lived in South Florida and didn't go to the meet up.

I've never been to San Fran Shithole in my life.

I suspect some butt hurt, Patneter sent them to me, especially seeing how seething Liberals always resort to weaponizing law enforcement to intimidate people they can't best in Political debate.
20   Patrick   2020 Feb 16, 2:40pm  

I did get a call from a detective maybe a year and a half ago, and told him everything I knew.

I feel pretty sure that her husband did it, but we have a justice system exactly for this kind of thing.
21   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 4:00pm  

Tenpoundbass says
especially seeing how seething Liberals always resort to weaponizing law enforcement to intimidate people they can't best in Political debate.


Yeah. That sounds exactly like liberals. Btw, there is nobody easier to beat in political debate than you. Hell, you make up such bizarre stuff, "winning" for you is just getting a little attention for those whacko supposed opinions.
22   Onvacation   2020 Feb 16, 5:05pm  

Tenpoundbass says
I suspect some butt hurt, Patneter sent them to me

I suspect it was your email conversation.
23   Tenpoundbass   2020 Feb 16, 5:16pm  

Onvacation says
I suspect it was your email conversation.


What Email conversation?
24   Patrick   2020 Feb 16, 5:19pm  

The detective didn't ask me for any email addresses of patrick.net users.
25   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 5:44pm  

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It should be tpb that decides whether to flag my comment, not you Patrick. Sure it was about him, but it wasn't false.
26   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 5:47pm  

Patrick says
The detective didn't ask me for any email addresses of patrick.net users.


Then how would he have contacted TPB and "grilled" him.
27   Tenpoundbass   2020 Feb 16, 5:48pm  

We can pick up this conversation after the case is settled.

marcus says
Then how would he have contacted TPB and "grilled" him.


Patrick emailed me and gave me the detective's number. And I called the Detective.

I wasn't grilled, he just asked some basic questions in the pursuit of diligence.
28   Patrick   2020 Feb 16, 5:50pm  

Ah, yes, that sounds familiar.
29   marcus   2020 Feb 16, 5:56pm  

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Tenpoundbass says
Patrick emailed me and gave me the detective's number. And I called the Detective.


Oh, I see, then I guess we can file this (below) under, classic TPB ? Or did Patrick actually email you becasue the detective specifically had wanted to talk to you ?

Tenpoundbass says
I suspect some butt hurt, Patneter sent them to me, especially seeing how seething Liberals always resort to weaponizing law enforcement to intimidate people they can't best in Political debate.
30   Tenpoundbass   2020 Feb 16, 5:59pm  

marcus says
It should be tpb that decides whether to flag my comment, not you Patrick. Sure it was about him, but it wasn'


Actually I flagged it, normally I let cheap shots roll off. But in the given context of this thread, it was libelous and slanderous.
31   komputodo   2020 Feb 16, 6:10pm  

wasn't she supposed to flop her goods?
32   Patrick   2020 Feb 16, 7:01pm  

She did.

Then she deleted the image after a week or something.

Depending on backup timing, I may possibly have the image somewhere.
33   Ceffer   2020 Feb 16, 7:24pm  

You reminded me. I forgot I have it in my records, but I am secure deleting it. Too spooky. Poor Turtledove.
34   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Feb 16, 7:26pm  

Patrick says
She did.

Then she deleted the image after a week or something.

Depending on backup timing, I may possibly have the image somewhere.


35   komputodo   2020 Feb 17, 6:13am  

Patrick says
I did get a call from a detective maybe a year and a half ago, and told him everything I knew.

I feel pretty sure that her husband did it, but we have a justice system exactly for this kind of thing.

You don't think that the flop had anything to do with it , do you?
36   Tenpoundbass   2020 Feb 17, 6:17am  

komputodo says
You don't think that the flop had anything to do with it , do you?


If I were everyone I would wait until the court case is over and done. This is still on going. Trump isn't even immune from talking about on going legal matters.
Do so at your own peril. That being said, I will be happy to say everything the detective asked me about, when the court case is over.

Put it this way, the killer or his lawyers were cunning enough to send the Detectives to Patnet to search for suspects. Purely because we were discussing it.
37   Onvacation   2020 Feb 17, 6:33am  

marcus says
becasue the detective

How do you know her name?
38   Patrick   2020 Feb 17, 11:14am  

komputodo says
You don't think that the flop had anything to do with it , do you?


I don't think so, not directly anyway. From what I could gather, he had a previous wife who took a lot of money in the divorce. Maybe he was afraid of going through the same thing again. But this is pure speculation.
39   Rin   2020 Feb 17, 11:41am  

Patrick says
he had a previous wife who took a lot of money in the divorce. Maybe he was afraid of going through the same thing again. But this is pure speculation.


This is perhaps true, however, a DA's office doesn't prosecute based upon a speculative theory because otherwise, it would be swamped with more cases than hours in the year.

It's highly feasible that she had a large life insurance on her and thus, given a suspicious accident, they would have enough of a probable motive to prosecute and gain a conviction, given the fact that jurors can be swayed by spousal abuse stories with the payout-in-the-end, as the coup de grace.
40   porkchopexpress   2021 Dec 27, 12:56pm  

What would turtledove think of this mess?
41   Patrick   2021 Dec 27, 1:52pm  

I think she would not be surprised.

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