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How is this an acceptable line of thinking?

ThatGuy says

How is this an acceptable line of thinking?

How is this not a terrorist threat?

Kids have been taught in public schools in California for the past 20 years or so that racism is the biggest wrong one can commit and that US Slavery was worse than genocides.

It’s why you see bumbling idiots unable to explain the evils of Hitler(despite knowing his name), the Turks, the various African tribes, Stalin, and Mao. And why you occasionally have boobs posting here that treatment of Native Americans and colonialism are equivalent evils.

It all fully fits with a leftist ideology where religion doesn’t exist and it’s man that writes the rules. In Christianity, and most other religions, the Golden Rule, or variation of it. And there’s usually a set of rules detailing mostly wrongs committed against others. The left has no such set of rules. And honesty doesn’t even play into it. Instead, it’s rules set up to support the governmemt and shame the religious.

It’s embarrassing and it’s created idiots.

That can be reported as terrorist threat.

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says

ThatGuy says

How is this an acceptable line of thinking?

How is this not a terrorist threat?

Perhaps one of these may be of use:

https://www.fbi.gov/tips

https://www.dhs.gov/how-do-i/report-suspicious-activity

https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia/report-threats.html

Patrick says

Liberal Democrats are very happy to export manufacturing jobs to China

Complete bullshit.

That's not democrats that did that. It's not even mostly democrats. A very good argument can be made that it was much more the doing of big corporate interests and much more from republicans than democrats. Far more.

Sure, now here we are several decades into a near complete transformation of the global economic system, and suddenly it's democrats fault ? Wtf ? Sure, many democrats are currently smart enough to know that the idea of undoing globalization as Trump promised he would do is a complete joke. Just becasue we see through Trumps bullshit, doesn't mean we love sending manufacturing to China. Trump doesn't even believe that he will undo globalization, and I'm sure that he and Ivanka still have a lot of products made in China.

It's just a total con sold to his base, who are looking so hard for a legit rationale or any kind of argument for liking Trump.

I'm actually starting to worry about you Patrick. This Trump thing is really not good for you. Do you hear yourself ? "Liberal democrats caused globalization ?" Hell, I'm old enough to remember 50 years ago all the things we were doing to expand our economic influence in the far reaches of the world, as well as the Americas. You think it was liberals that first brought Honda and Toyota to the US ? What about Volkswagons shortly after world war 2. This has been brewing for a long time man, and it has nothing NOTHING to do with liberal democrats. It's a global economy. Right or wrong, we won the war against communism.

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I take issue with the obvious lie that the situation with the American economy is what Democrats wanted.

But if you are going to blame them for the suffering it has caused many Americans (of course it had nothing to do with Women going to work or technology), you would also have to admit the extent to which poverty disease and wars have decreased globally over the same several decades. Improving the lives of many more people than the numbers that have been hurt here domestically.

All of this did happen, but it's not a trade that liberals wanted. It's just the way that global capitalism has evolved, as communism died (which republicans wanted every bit as much as democrats).

The lie that if you’re not a cheerleading globalist then you are racists is part of what keeps Dems out of office.

Straight shooting working class doesn’t stand for that lie.

marcus says

as communism died (which republicans wanted every bit as much as democrats).

Then explain Bernie?
Democratic socialism will never work without people pointing guns and forcing redistribution of wealth from the productive to the non productive until everyone is miserably poor.

Left has been calling everything racist. Those people are clueless about life, too fucking sheltered and immature to understand anything.

BayArea says

The lie that if you’re not a cheerleading globalist then you are racists is part of what keeps Dems out of office.

Again, I call total and laughable bullshit.

First of all, Trumps sales pitch that he can undo many decades of globalization or even put a dent in it is a brand new phenomenon. And it's a political sales pitch to get him and his criminal cronies in power.

Yes it is working class folks that are frustrated that fell for it. I would NOT say that if you believe Trump will undo globalization for you, then you must be racist. But I would say that often (not always) arguing that Trump will undo globalization is a desperate RATIONALIZATION to find something good about Trump. Whether it's a cover for racism ? I would just say probably, becasue humans have always done that. (i.e.find groups to blame or hate for their problems - it's a deep primal human attribute).

Also by the way, NOT putting a high priority on the luaghably impossible task of undoing globalization, is not equivalent to being a cheerleader for it.

I still maintain that even TRump has no plan or belief in undoing globalization. It's just a con for getting votes.

I still maintain that even TRump has no plan or belief in undoing globalization.

What would you call the Tariffs on China and the re-done NAFTA? The trade talks with India and EU?

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HeadSet says

What would you call the Tariffs on China and the re-done NAFTA?

Attempts to improve our competitiveness in global markets. But that acknowledges globalization as real and something that is here to stay. Nafta2 is little changed, but I'm sure a slight improvement, that he gets to call an accomplishment. Trade talks are good, but do you think it's clear that RCEP (TPP without the the U.S. as a signee) is somehow better for us than TPP ?

Who knows ? What we do know is that Trump doesn't play well with others, and is incapable of developing a team that can help him face all these important challenges.

But that acknowledges globalization as real and something that is here to stay.

??? That is like saying prisons are admission that crime is real and is here to stay.


Trade talks are good, but do you think it's clear that RCEP (TPP without the the U.S. as a signee) is somehow better for us than TPP ?

Yep, we are the ones with the humongous market, and we should use that leverage well. Notice how Japanese car companies overwhelmingly manufacture vehicles in the US, even some for export. That is from the threat of shutting off those companies from the American consumer if they did not. German auto companies have also set up manufacturing here, Korea likely next.

What we do know is that Trump doesn't play well with others, and is incapable of developing a team that can help him face all these important challenges.

Look at results, not what you think should be methods.

Patrick says

It's OK to kill anyone you want, if you can convince yourself that they are "racist"

Thanks, I was waiting for permission.

marcus says

.find groups to blame or hate for their problems - it's a deep primal human attribute).

So what do you think the problem is that is causing all of the TDS? What is their ( the people that viscerally hate Trump) problem?

Got evidence?

HeadSet says

Look at results, not what you think should be methods.

I try not to confuse correlation with causation. He's just the President. A lot of great things can happen in the U.S. in spite of who is trying their hardest to fuck things up.

I wonder if liberals suicide once they realize they are the racist once.

marcus says

Trump doesn't even believe that he will undo globalization, and I'm sure that he and Ivanka still have a lot of products made in China.

It's just a total con sold to his base, who are looking so hard for a legit rationale or any kind of argument for liking Trump.

You mean except for all the new trade deals, tariffs, boarder restrictions, zero tolerance ICE raids, and emphasis on rules against illegals being paid benefits.

You mean besides all that it's a con, right? I'm sure my list is far from complete.

Marcus your TDS is really not good for you.

CBOEtrader says

looking so hard for a legit rationale or any kind of argument for liking Trump

Like Pavlov's dog

HeadSet says

I still maintain that even TRump has no plan or belief in undoing globalization.

What would you call the Tariffs on China and the re-done NAFTA? The trade talks with India and EU?

This doesn't have to be a binary path: all or nothing. Some globalization is good for the US if done right. Otherwise, you limit your ability to get rich if you can't export your products and services.

marcus says

HeadSet says

Look at results, not what you think should be methods.

I try not to confuse correlation with causation. He's just the President. A lot of great things can happen in the U.S. in spite of who is trying their hardest to fuck things up.

I think just the opposite will help guarantee Trump's reelection. A lot of bad things can happen in the US in spite of excellent policies by the president.

People are going to see that the economy absolutely BOOMED under Trump, but then the coronavirus hit. Not his fault.

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Where as the hostage crisis was Jimmy Carter's fault ?

So trillion dollar annual deficits to have a full employment economy is great ? Even if a lot of those jobs would barely pay the rent in many major markets ?

porkchopexpress says

This doesn't have to be a binary path: all or nothing. Some globalization is good for the US if done right. Otherwise, you limit your ability to get rich if you can't export your products and services.

Exactly, but the key is that the trade must be balanced somehow, either goods or services or something of that nature. We couldn’t export jack shit to China for decades. Most of the cans they sent over with billions of dollars in products were returned with either recycled cardboard, metal, cow hides, or about 70% fresh California air!

And as for the products they did buy... they only needed to buy one. Their carbon copy industry would take care of the rest, international patents be damned!

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Patrick says

I think just the opposite will help guarantee Trump's reelection. A lot of bad things can happen in the US in spite of excellent policies by the president.

People are going to see that the economy absolutely BOOMED under Trump, but then the coronavirus hit. Not his fault.

I can see the Democrats taking advantage of this and using their mainstream media allies to talk down the economy. They did it with James Carville in 1992, and they are did it to some extent in 2008 right before the election.

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Patrick says

It's OK to kill anyone you want, if you can convince yourself that they are "racist"

I don't know what you are going for with this Patrick. Sympathy ?

I already responded to the ludicrous part about the democrats supposedly causing globalization and supposedly wanting incomes to be lower for working class folks. Such BS.

Actually I would be very much in favor of any realistic policies that could increase wages. Including the very bipartisan efforts that have been behind border security for more than a decade.

What I can't get behind is the gross politicization of the issue, only because it puts dems in an awkward spot, not becasue they haven't supported border security all these years.

ALso what I will never get behind is a politician that uses race fear and even hate to get votes. Rational policies are one thing. What you don't get is that there are just too many people that find Trump repulsive. If there is as much common decency in America as I believe there is, then he will never be reelected.

As for the claim about killing racists ? First off I think most people are racist to some degree in one way or another. Secondly I have never NEVER NEVER heard anyone advocating that. It's just stupid, and you must know that.

If not ? Dude, get some professional help.

marcus says

I already responded to the ludicrous part about the democrats supposedly causing globalization and supposedly wanting incomes to be lower for working class folks. Such BS.

The dems dont want open boarders and illegals to get free benefits? You are lying to yourself Marcus. It is bizarre watching you jump through hoops to ignore facts in front of your face.

marcus says

not becasue they haven't supported border security all these years.

Correct. The left has shown incredible hypocrisy in politicize "children in cages" omg!

marcus says

ALso what I will never get behind is a politician that uses race fear and even hate to get votes.

Good, so you will be voting for Trump?

Thing is marcus, you make these sweeping comments, then NEVER back up your sweeping comments w facts. Ever. Not once.

You want everyone to buy into the propaganda that Trump is somehow a big orange meanie, but you have zero facts to support it. Meanwhile you ignore the actual oppression and violence against Trump supporters. You find comfort in the lies you tell yourself. It's a bad look, and difficult to read.

If this were 1930's germany, youd be a nazi supporter, explaining why jews deserve to be oppressed.

FortWayneIndiana says

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this wasn't personal, quite standard for pat.net these days considering what others post on the left about "repcon scum and so forth".

Original post was:

marcus says

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Where as the hostage crisis was Jimmy Carter's fault ?

So trillion dollar annual deficits to have a full employment economy is great ? Even if a lot of those jobs would barely pay the rent in many major markets ?

Whose fault is it that millions of illegals are driving down wages for people in private sector? You'd bitch and moan like a fucking female donkey having a period if they started replacing you with illegals in government.

Liberal fags who scream "open borders" brought millions of illegal desperate fucks to take advantage of, like new form of legal slavery, put millions of Americans into poverty. And than they go "oh hey look people don't earn enough". You fuckers did this!!!!