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In the USA, most Corona deaths are old ppl, esp ones in nursing homes


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2020 Mar 11, 2:10pm   1,965 views  24 comments

by Rin   ➕follow (8)   💰tip   ignore  

Has anyone actually been to a nursing home?

They are practically the harbingers of death, with a vast majority of their attendants suffering from either heart disease, pulmonary dysfunction/emphysema, renal failure, type 2 diabetes, sepsis (from prior medical procedures), digestive ailments, dementia/Alzheimer's, countless cancers, or anything else under the sun.

The fact of the matter is that when anyone visits a friend or family member in a rest or nursing home, the usual story is that one of their housemates recently died of x, y, or z, a.k.a complications due to aging.

I've stated the above for one reason, the Corona thing is a panic not seen by so-called educated ppl before. Normally, a disease associated with Cytokine storms, like the 1918 Influenza or the Swine Flu, causes those with education a/o common sense to react appropriately, as it affects formally healthy ppl whose immune reactions can't handle the disease.

This pandemic, however, is perceived by the body as no more than a chest cold for perhaps, a vast majority of the non-AARP crowd. Who goes to a health clinic for a something we experience, practically every other winter?

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1   Rin   2020 Mar 11, 2:17pm  

OccasionalCortex says
...and that is where my wife works. As a med tech in a retirement home.


If your wife is under 55 and didn't smoke or vape her whole life, chances are, she'll be fine.

It's not like she's entering the Ebola or Justinian Plague unit with a hazmat suit.
2   CBOEtrader   2020 Mar 11, 2:33pm  

OccasionalCortex says
But mostly I was referring to the fact that a lot of her patients that she's known for years are gonna drop like flies.


From old age or CV?
3   Rin   2020 Mar 11, 3:21pm  

CBOEtrader says
From old age or CV?


Isn't that the problem with the question? How an aging person dies of the complications of aging, can be attributed to the cold, the flu, coronavirus, pneumonia, cancer, or just plain cardiac, respiratory, or renal failure due to poor overall health.

The problem is that if he comes out positive for corona, it'll be the one held accountable and nothing else.
4   mell   2020 Mar 11, 3:45pm  

Rin says
I've stated the above for one reason, the Corona thing is a panic not seen by so-called educated ppl before. Normally, a disease associated with Cytokine storms, like the 1918 Influenza or the Swine Flu, causes those with education a/o common sense to react appropriately, as it affects formally healthy ppl whose immune reactions can't handle the disease.

This pandemic, however, is perceived by the body as no more than a chest cold for perhaps, a vast majority of the non-AARP crowd. Who goes to a health clinic for a something we experience, practically every other winter?


Correct - this is the opposite of the pandemics causing death in the healthy due to cytokine storms - it causes death due to complications in the unhealthy/elderly. That's sill serious but it's got nothing on the cytokine-storm type pandemics.
5   mell   2020 Mar 11, 3:49pm  

Rin says
CBOEtrader says
From old age or CV?


Isn't that the problem with the question? How an aging person dies of the complications of aging, can be attributed to the cold, the flu, coronavirus, pneumonia, cancer, or just plain cardiac, respiratory, or renal failure due to poor overall health.

The problem is that if he comes out positive for corona, it'll be the one held accountable and nothing else.


Right, they do the same for the flu. It helps generating awareness and get more people to vaccinate if they say the flu did them in (it inflates the death stats) even if often the cause of death can't be properly determined.
6   theoakman   2020 Mar 11, 3:52pm  

This is a long term (10 year outlook) nothingburger. Given the fact that kids are essentially at zero risk...this is an illness where it is optimal if you get it now while you are young and just have immunity the rest of your life. That's if this thing even survives the summer. I could see us just forcing our kids to play with other kids with corona virus like we did with the chicken pox. I suspect a vaccine will be out within 12 months.
7   RC2006   2020 Mar 11, 3:54pm  

It maybe be cold hearted to say but this virus is just doing nature's job the kindest way possible. Seems to be only taking out elderly that have lived full lives many of which would have been dead already if not for straining our healthcare system. When have we ever in history panicked over a deasese that completely spares children.
8   Booger   2020 Mar 11, 3:57pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Guess we'll find out if any of them put her in their Will pretty soon after all, eh?


I am also wondering if I am going to score enough to retire out of this as well.
9   Booger   2020 Mar 11, 4:00pm  

OccasionalCortex says
...and that is where my wife works. As a med tech in a retirement home.


Have they gotten to the point where the employees are betting on who is going to croke next?
10   Ceffer   2020 Mar 11, 4:03pm  

Maybe I should try selling the nursing home patients life insurance with me as beneficiary.

"Sign here, dear, so you can take care of your loved ones when you depart, Heh, Heh!"
11   mell   2020 Mar 11, 4:24pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Booger says
Have they gotten to the point where the employees are betting on who is going to croke next?


That might be coming.


I thought that's a common game amongst people living in retirement communities, not just since Seinfeld.
12   HeadSet   2020 Mar 11, 5:27pm  

Booger says
OccasionalCortex says
...and that is where my wife works. As a med tech in a retirement home.


Have they gotten to the point where the employees are betting on who is going to croke next?


A nursing home dead pool?
13   Ceffer   2020 Mar 11, 5:38pm  

HeadSet says
A nursing home dead pool?


Too easy to cheat by kicking out the plugs and blowing air into the IV's.
14   Onvacation   2020 Mar 11, 5:47pm  

please edit this and post just one video at a time, thanks
15   Onvacation   2020 Mar 11, 5:47pm  

I searched YouTube for "COVID-19 patients". I wanted to see the ravages of this horrible virus. I was prepared for the heartbreaking scene of someone with fluid filled lungs gasping their last breath. Instead I find this whiny guy whose kid might have the virus or some such
https://www.youtube.com/embed/wgHdkqF92Ig
16   Onvacation   2020 Mar 11, 5:48pm  

I changed the search to "flu patients" and got this intubated women who already suffered from asthma who says, "I wasn't feeling good".
https://www.youtube.com/embed/BJKRtzVuoRc

This thing is so overblown. Every year tens of thousands are killed by the "common" flu. Unless this is some new Chinese super weapon, I suspect it is just a big propaganda campaign to cover up the dumpster fire that is called the democrat party.
17   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 11, 5:55pm  

I should have saved the reference, but nobody under 10 has died, not even immune compromised kids, at least in the USA.
18   joshuatrio   2020 Mar 12, 5:18am  

Onvacation says


This thing is so overblown. Every year tens of thousands are killed by the "common" flu. Unless this is some new Chinese super weapon, I suspect it is just a big propaganda campaign to cover up the dumpster fire that is called the democrat party.


THIS
19   Patrick   2020 Mar 12, 12:20pm  

Another grim but practical benefit:

The Social Security system may become much more financially viable due to a mass die-off of the elderly.
20   Minime   2020 Mar 12, 12:27pm  

There is potential scare of the second wave. When Spanish flue started it also was killing mostly old but by October it mutated and started killing most healthy adults between ages 20-30. Thats biggest worry imho.

Why this one is different from Sars and Mars is that ppl spread virus without showing any symptoms for about 4 days. In case of Sars we were lucky that you could infect ppl after you felt ill and not while virus was incubating.
21   clambo   2020 Mar 12, 12:58pm  

The state of Florida is jammed with nursing homes and there are just 29 cases there so far.
22   CBOEtrader   2020 Mar 12, 1:16pm  

Minime says
There is potential scare of the second wave. When Spanish flue started it also was killing mostly old but by October it mutated and started killing most healthy adults between ages 20-30. Thats biggest worry imho.

Why this one is different from Sars and Mars is that ppl spread virus without showing any symptoms for about 4 days. In case of Sars we were lucky that you could infect ppl after you felt ill and not while virus was incubating.


Boomers and millennials? Win win!
23   HeadSet   2020 Mar 12, 1:26pm  

Patrick says
Another grim but practical benefit:

The Social Security system may become much more financially viable due to a mass die-off of the elderly.


There will not be a massive die off of the elderly.
24   Ceffer   2020 Mar 12, 1:32pm  

Does Medicare sell stock?

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