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On the wisdom of ancient laws

By Patrick follow Patrick   2020 Mar 25, 9:17am 307 views   7 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Note that Jewish law has very clear rules about what animals may be eaten, and bats and pangolins are definitely not kosher.

There is also a law that one must wash hands before eating. Jesus referred to these laws:

Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.


Poetic, but maybe Jesus was not completely correct about this one, or should have been clearer.
1   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2020 Mar 25, 9:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I don't believe this came from Bats or Pangolins.

An exotic animal fits the Scary Clown in the Woods psyops that this whole operation is.

There would have gave a collective yawn if they said it came from a cow, chicken or pig.

But patient zero Zombies originating from an exotic animal bite, is firmly baked into our psyche and conscious.

They've been eating bats for thousands of years, it's not a new snack for them.
2   Shaman   ignore (2)   2020 Mar 25, 9:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Jewish dietary laws fit neatly into the “primer for ignorant school children” theory of the purpose of these commandments. Long before the advent of science, nutrition, disease vectors, and biology, Jews had these laws to keep them safe from eating contaminated meat. So it was a very effective way to keep the Jewish population free from foodborn illness.
We know slightly more now than they did in the Bronze Age.
3   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Mar 25, 12:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

True, and through shrimp are not kosher, they are probably OK to eat. Maybe "red tides" affect them.

Anyway, the point is that we are not the first to deal with these problems. We should not be too arrogant to learn from the past, even the distant past.
4   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Mar 25, 12:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
True, and through shrimp are not kosher, they are probably OK to eat. Maybe "red tides" affect them.

Anyway, the point is that we are not the first to deal with these problems. We should not be too arrogant to learn from the past, even the distant past.


I agree. We seem to forget lessons and relearn then the hard way. Food, behavior, relationships, sexuality... thousands of years of human wisdom gets easily dismissed as “fairy tales”. Tragic.
6   mbSFBay   ignore (0)   2020 Mar 25, 3:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Well, a lot of "kosher" animals have also transmitted disease (SARS - the first epidemic was transmitted by chickens and birds, MERS by camels), so I don't really see why one should pay any heed to this "wisdom".
7   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Mar 28, 1:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Well, camels are not kosher to begin with.

The point is that people observed for themselves what happened over long periods of time, even without hard science.

Traditional medicines frequently have some aspect which can be proven beneficial. Guess where we got quinine from? A traditional medicine, the bark of the chincona tree. No need to pay any heed to that "wisdom" either, right?

The bible has a ton of laws in it, mostly Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Some of them are outright bizarre and hard to understand, like a prohibition on mixing wool and linen. Wtf?

But others are quite plausibly the result of long-term observations:

- Washing one's hands before eating reduces disease.
- Circumcised men do not get penile cancer, only uncircumcised men. Women married to circumcised men have lower rates of cervical cancer.
- Pork is easily infected with trichinosis.
- Bats are not kosher (hello, Wuhan virus!)
- Shellfish absorb toxins from red tides, becoming quite poisonous.
- Anal sex is just about the only way to get anal cancer.
- Homosexuality is a contagious vice which leads to epidemics (hello, AIDS).
- Promiscuity rapidly spreads venereal disease.

Not saying that biblical laws are infallible, only that they should not be completely dismissed as wrong without examination.

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