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logic says

Again, I can only argue my argument not an argument I'm not making. Not sure how that doesn't makes sense.

Did you know that mallard's are known gang rapists?

logic says

Remember that time when you tried to say Star wars was in the genre of comedy? I do.

Was it not in a Star Wars thread about Kennedy or whatever her name was? Totally on topic. And of course, there's zero humor in the original trilogy, like none.... Guardians of The Galaxy is also a Sci-fi flick. Zero parts of that movie(s) are funny or could be categorized as comedy because it's labeled Sci-fi. That's your stance, you understand? I'm sure you've never heard of a "romantic comedy" or some other label. You just enjoy putting square pegs in round holes.... You've got to be tired of ducking with all the things flying over your head at this point.

You've been asked multiple times to lay out your argument. You keep saying straw man. That you can't argue something you didn't type or say. You haven't made an actual argument about anything to this point. We can only make straw men because we have zero clue what your actual argument is. You've yet to state your idea, position or argument. You keep resorting to "nah, straw man. I didn't say that, so I'll just continue to say nothing."

I'll ask one last time, what position that has been presented in the thread, do you disagree with? What is your disagreement? All we're doing to at this point is trying to read your mind as you shift from the stats are accurate to Trump is a bad leader, with not a link to back any of it up and just saying everyone is wrong.

WookieMan says

You've got to be tired of ducking

HeHe

logic says

Remember I'm winning

Yep! Your a winner!

jazz_music says

Hey

Orange man bad to the corps



nuff said

I'm glad Trump is letting these part time soldiers go back to work.

If military service is so important for a politician, why would you support Obama, Biden or Clinton? I guess you must be glad that Mike Garcia won CA 25, since he was the only veteran in the race.

logic says

Trump, I hear, is a 5 time draft dodger. Unpatriotic..

And a racist, misogynist, cheating, bankrupt, pussy grabber. Don't forget the pussy grabbing!

logic says

I said you were wrong to use the term verifiable proof. I know you have stopped saying you have verifiable proof because you don't.

What the fuck??? What are you talking about? I have verifiable proof, that's indisputable. I have no interest in sharing it here. Why would I? Just because you cannot see it, doesn't mean it's not true and doesn't exist. People hold back information all the time for different reasons. Nothing I said was wrong, you're just throwing a pity party because you "can't see the verifiable proof" like some entitled child. You have also given zero proof that COVID-19 deaths are being counted accurately from a 3rd party source. You're just saying we have to wait years and just living by the assumption the information you're being fed is accurate.

logic says

Also as I've stated above, which has still not been responded to, is that I don't agree with your argument that 10/10 times a 2 year pancreatic cancer patient should be classified as death from cancer. I think it's a judgement call and yes it should be noted what other ailments one had and life expectancy but to classify only as cancer 10/10 times, I don't agree. Ive said this above yet you haven't tried to back up your argument.

Not gonna waste my time. The link was already posted. Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence. If you have it for 2 years, you die from pancreatic cancer. I picked that specific cancer for a reason. You don't have to agree, but you're wrong. A patient with pancreatic cancer for 2 years doesn't die from COVID-19. They die from an organ that cannot be transplanted and cancer treatment just slows the death. COVID-19 is unequivocally not the cause of death. Get some doctor and nurse friends and discuss this.

I get it, you didn't read the link and/or understand what pancreatic cancer is. I'm sure 20 people you know will now have had it and survived or something. Just admit I presented information, and others have as well, and it's all just wrong because you say so. Deaths are being counted improperly and you've shown zero evidence to the contrary. I know my information is 100% right. Go find a link. Snopes or something that confirms your bias.

logic says

Enough with the verifiable proof bit you don't HAVE it. Maybe just maybe you could get it but you don't already have it.

Lol. I have it. Have you even posted a link saying that deaths are accurately being counted? Still waiting on that. Prove me wrong. It should be easy. Right?

Nice quoting.... Disingenuous much, yes.

WookieMan says

A patient with pancreatic cancer for 2 years doesn't die from COVID-19. They die from an organ that cannot be transplanted and cancer treatment just slows the death. COVID-19 is unequivocally not the cause of death. Get some doctor and nurse friends and discuss this.

logic says

If that is what you are trying to say then you must be saying that the 2 year surviver of pancreatic cancer who is driving home from radiation treatment who gets killed in a car accident died of pancreatic cancer

Never said this.... You did.

Not sure what car accidents have to do with the topic. Not sure what Trump being a bad leader has to do with the topic. Not making sense. You clearly don't understand how doctors categorize the primary cause of death. But keep trying.

Answer this. An alcoholic dies of liver failure. What's the cause of death?

And please don't answer in 10 different fucking comments. You're clearly trying to bury your previous comments with the practice of answering 10 different parts of a comment one by one.

WookieMan says

You don't like Trump, we get it. We don't care.

This should be the general response to TDS.

Do not engage. There is nothing to be gained, and time and effort to lose.

Wetbulb is a far more serious threat than covid. It will kill millions right after the arctic goes ice free in 2022.
everybody knows that.

WookieMan says

And please don't answer in 10 different fucking comments. You're clearly trying to bury your previous comments with the practice of answering 10 different parts of a comment one by one.

@WookieMan I'm 99% sure you were suffering through the troll duck who has been banned here many times. He is banned yet again.

Patrick says

I'm 99% sure you were suffering through the troll duck who has been banned here many times. He is banned yet again.

Damn, was just about to post this (pretty sure it's been posted before). I was admittedly also playing along with the guy as well. I recognized the style from past interactions. Some of my comments may have intentionally been over the top on purpose, let's just say that ;) I've had this link for a while. It's honestly what prompted me to ask the people that confirmed my suspicions.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-classify-all-coronavirus-patient-deaths-as-covid-19-deaths/

But oh well. There were a few others that didn't believe over reporting of deaths due to other ailments. Our own government, in an audio clip admits it. So that pretty much shuts the door on the conversation anyway. And news source doesn't matter before that becomes a thing, it's straight from the horses mouth who decides these things.

Onvacation says

Wetbulb is a far more serious threat than covid.

Imagine wet bulb with COVID-19. Miraculously the person would die twice because the primary cause of death would have to be wet bulb and COVID-19. Or maybe combine them, web bulb-19.

Thought I recognized the pattern.

Patrick says

Say 100,000 die out of 300M people (actually, the population is even larger than that). That's 0.0003.

Most accurate prediction so far. Whatever naysayers say, it's gonna be closer to 100k than 1-2M.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

And please don't answer in 10 different fucking comments. You're clearly trying to bury your previous comments with the practice of answering 10 different parts of a comment one by one.

@WookieMan I'm 99% sure you were suffering through the troll duck who has been banned here many times. He is banned yet again.

Damn Patrick, for a man who hates censorship. Echo chamber it is I guess. BTW Not sure I'd accept "heard it at a party" as proof either.

Patrick says

He is banned yet again.

But he was fun!

Surprised I've never been banned from any sites.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/the-politics-of-counting-things-is-about-to-explode/amp

Shake85 says

BTW Not sure I'd accept "heard it at a party" as proof either.

Lol, I also said he doesn't have to accept it. Just said it's true, which it is. It's not a debatable point. Yet he continued to attempt at debating it, shifting the conversation to Trump, which had nothing to do with the topic..... death rate. Myself and others have provided evidence that it's likely being over counted. The response was, you're wrong. That's it.

Sometimes people need to understand that they're wrong even if they cannot see physical proof. I have legitimate reasons NOT to provide my evidence. Just provide evidence that deaths are NOT being over counted and prove me wrong. Find a pancreatic cancer patient that died with COVID-19 and see what it's labeled as. Good luck to anyone that wants to try. Watch the video in comment 476....

Shake85 says

Damn Patrick, for a man who hates censorship. Echo chamber it is I guess.

Who got censored? The guy admitted to multiple different accounts. He'll be back. I was having fun with it, but at the end of the day it's Patrick's site. If he's not deliberately trying to derail conversation over and over, why have different accounts? I haven't changed username, etc. since day one or started alt accounts. Why would one ever do that? It's actually the one beef I have with a lot of users I like here.

There's not one person on this site that I 100% agree with, so not sure about echo chamber. I think I've disagreed with every active user here at some point or another. The difference is I don't shift to off topic stuff and avoid the fact I might be wrong. Or get buried in semantics that don't matter, like Star Wars having comedic moments even though it's Sci-fi. That's what happened here and has happened in the past with this person. The straw man thing is nauseating. Mentioning a straw man is a fucking straw man. It makes no sense and is intentional misdirection from the topic at hand. "Ugh, you don't know how to argue you idiot." lol. It's a joke. I toyed with it this time because I knew who it was.