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If we had not killed the economy, and kept going as usual, the estimate was 1-2 Million deaths.
PANIC!
Wait, 3 percent of 1 percent?
The question of course for anyone who doesn't have pretzel logic is, was it worth imploding the economy to go from a miserable 2.2+ million dead to a manageable 81,000?
I'm curious Patrick, what turned you from being an awesome voice for overpriced housing to a troll who spreads harmful misinformation?
The empirical rate itself also probably over-reported considering people on death's door are dying WITH CV and recorded as dying FROM CV.
The 2.2M was based on a deathrate 10x the empirical rate. The empirical rate itself also probably over-reported considering people on death's door are dying WITH CV and recorded as dying FROM CV.
how quickly we can kill grandma to help Wall Street.
or you go by the folks who have studied pandemics their entire life and agree with all the other pros around the entire world, regardless of right wing, left wing, stock investors, corporation owners,etc.
CBOEtrader saysThe empirical rate itself also probably over-reported considering people on death's door are dying WITH CV and recorded as dying FROM CV.
Anyone dying of any type of flu are going to be recorded as dying on Coronavirus.
Say 100,000 die out of 300M people (actually, the population is even larger than that). That's 0.0003.
It's still not at all clear that this was worth imploding the economy for.
Actual death rate is about 0.1% of those infected.
There it is. Just like I predicted in an earlier thread, the left's narrative will move from "Trump did not do enough" to "Trump Over-Reacted." This new spin will really take off when COVID-19 turns out to be far less severe than than the constant drum beat of the left had predicted.
There it is. Just like I predicted in an earlier thread, the left's narrative will move from "Trump did not do enough" to "Trump Over-Reacted."
There is no disgraceful lack of foresight
If we had not killed the economy, and kept going as usual, the estimate was 1-2 Million deaths.
But the fact of the matter is we should have intelligence gathering in the federal gov. that told the power people in the federal Gov. that there was a huge risk of a pandemic brewing in China. In fact reports state that is exactly what the intelligence agencies reported. Was that intelligence acted on in a timely manner? No.
I find it entertaining to shoot people from the sky and, hey, I paid for the helicopter and the gun and less than 1% of Americans will die even if I spent 17 hours a day shooting and only break to shit, shave and shower and rest each day.
What's the harm?
BLOW! ME!
The splicing was pretty tight between the raised voices of Coronavirus and the failure of the faked impeachment hearings.
Ceffer saysThe splicing was pretty tight between the raised voices of Coronavirus and the failure of the faked impeachment hearings.
Summer is coming. Soon theglobal warmersclimate changers will be out in force.
100,000 to 200,000 is the estimate WITH an imploded economy.
If we had not killed the economy, and kept going as usual, the estimate was 1-2 Million deaths.
So killing the economy is estimated to save between 900,000 to 1,800,000 lives.
Might have been worth it.
Because... the 100,000 figure ASSUMES actions that will implode the economy.
Without these measures, 70% of the population get the disease, you are talking 2 millions dead, at least.
Maybe much more considering the healthcare system would be destroyed.
Social-distancing and shutting down the economy were supposed to "flatten the curve," not reducing the total number of infections/exposures.
Reality saysSocial-distancing and shutting down the economy were supposed to "flatten the curve," not reducing the total number of infections/exposures.
BS You flatten it until a vaccine.
If your assumption is 70% of people will get it anyway, then the toll will be close to 2 millions regardless of everything.
Utter nonsense! Read up what "flatten the curve" means. It doesn't affect the total infection/exposure count, but only the speed at which infections/exposure take place, hoping to limit it to the hospital capacity.
Utter nonsense! Read up what "flatten the curve" means. It doesn't affect the total infection/exposure count, but only the speed at which infections/exposure take place, hoping to limit it to the hospital capcity.
When a virus has natural R0=3, then 66%-70% of the people will have to be infected/exposed to the virus before herd immunity is sufficient to stop the virus.
South Korea has stopped the increase in COVID cases without "herd immunity." We know this because their mass testing yielded relatively few positive cases: 338,000 tested and 9600 positive. 133 of those died.
goofus saysSouth Korea has stopped the increase in COVID cases without "herd immunity." We know this because their mass testing yielded relatively few positive cases: 338,000 tested and 9600 positive. 133 of those died.
Another medical ignoramus. How does testing stop spreading? It's a virus for crying out loud. 338k is less than 1% of SK population. Did they kill all the 9600 people who tested positive? Did they kill the remaining 50+ million South Koreans waiting to be tested?
I doubt this curve will flatten by 9000 people (the 0.0003 cited above). The steepness of our death rate and the lack of flattening are far worse than China at this point, three weeks past the 20-death mark.
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Wait, 3 percent of 1 percent?
Yes, 100 times smaller than 3 percent.
Say 100,000 die out of 300M people (actually, the population is even larger than that). That's 0.0003.
So, since 0.0086 of the US dies every year on average, this could bump up the US death rate by 3 / 86 = 3.5% this year.
Except not it wouldn't even be that much, because a large fraction of those who die weren't going to make it through a normal 2020 anyway.
It's still not at all clear that this was worth imploding the economy for. Remember that 81,000 died of the flu in 2018 and no one even blinked.