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Pop Quiz, any of you guys hear one single ambulance siren in the last two weeks?

By Tenpoundbass follow Tenpoundbass   2020 Mar 31, 1:51pm 778 views   49 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


I live a half mile away from Joe DiMagio Memorial Hospital, and I haven't heard one single siren.

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10   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Mar 31, 5:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
I think some of the models pumping out 2.2M are obscene and outright bull shit. Not sure why or the end goal, but the math doesn't add up.

Given the onset of symptoms, every person here would have to know 4-5 people right now with it to hit the top end of the model. I only know 2 friends of a friend scenarios having gotten it out of probably 100-200 personal connections between the wife and I. No one I personally know has had it. Two levels deep on my family is probably 10k people. 2 have it. 1 did die. It really is being overblown.


Curious to hear more about your thinking here. Epidemics follow an exponential curve up so you start low and grow to some maximum. If you don't know where you are on the curve then why would you expect to know 4-5 people that have it?
11   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2020 Mar 31, 5:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says

Everything is now justified, roll back those nasty and inconvenient human rights.

Well, that didn't take long...
12   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Mar 31, 6:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Gonna disagree here. Not saying it's a hoax, but we're in the infancy of numbers on this. It's a new virus. No one really knows jack shit about it. I think some of the models pumping out 2.2M are obscene and outright bull shit. Not sure why or the end goal, but the math doesn't add up.


It never has added up. China and Italy were reporting hundreds of thousands are going to die. When it got here, the media said they were flattening out.
Now America has more cases than anywhere in the world and we're all going to die, and turns out China and Italy's numbers weren't bad at all.

They can't even keep the facts straight.

The lack of interviewing survivors is stunningly suspect. The news loves dragging victims and survivors out, where in the fuck are all of the Lime Light Hoggers, that survived the China Virus of Doom?
13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (7)   2020 Mar 31, 6:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Just about every night and I live in a very safe city.
14   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Mar 31, 6:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
Curious to hear more about your thinking here. Epidemics follow an exponential curve up so you start low and grow to some maximum. If you don't know where you are on the curve then why would you expect to know 4-5 people that have it?

Because. I laid out my thinking, but apparently didn't read it. Doing the Kevin Bacon bull shit, if you go 2 levels deep (my friends/clients and their friends/clients/family), I can get information on probably 10k people. It just became 3 people ten minutes ago. THREE out of 10K and I'm probably underestimating the total on the 10k.

To hit the top end models, I'd have to have heard of at least 100+ friends and friends of friends that have been infected. The vast majority of people recover. This is going to hammer densely populated areas that have lots of elderly. The data backs this. This really isn't something to be feared. Do your part and stay home I guess, but it's a damn virus. It's going to kill who it's going to kill. Not much you can do about it.
15   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Mar 31, 6:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Isn't it odd this virus got all the way to Italy, Iran, Brussels, and Brooklyn --- but didn't spread like wildfire in Beijing, Shanghai, or Guangzhou? Or Hong Kong, for that matter.

I mean sure, there are H1-Bs, but there are millions of Chinese from Hubei traveling back and forth to other provinces and cities during Lunar Festival. It would have spread fast and far within China long before the Authorities were informed, much less decided to take action.
16   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (53)   2020 Mar 31, 6:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Clearly, a convicted felon is the only trustworthy authority in the world on anything, and we need to get a grip, RALLY! and make out with other toothless strangers on their hoverounds to celebrate the infallibility of THE! PLENIPOTENTIARY! and own the libbies to prevail over this satanic hoax!
17   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 Mar 31, 6:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
The lack of interviewing survivors is stunningly suspect. The news loves dragging victims and survivors out, where in the fuck are all of the Lime Light Hoggers, that survived the China Virus of Doom?

It started two weeks ago the Sunday after lockdown.
First a sore throat. Then my lungs started to feel congested. I dosed on the C, one gram twice daily. I drank more water than normal. I got this horrible pounding headache and achy body. I took ibuprofen. Not the worst cold of my life.But I'm a boomer and we been through worse.

Was it Corona? I do work with people that are from China and they spent Christmas in Beijing. My wife is a professor and deals with some stinky students. Never got tested because it was a mild cold.

Where are the stories of the vibrant young people struck down in their prime?
18   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Mar 31, 7:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
THREE out of 10K


Did the three even get actual tests, or just self-diagnose?
19   BayArea   ignore (1)   2020 Mar 31, 7:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

marcus says
Stupid question really


I don’t agree with you often but with you on this one
20   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Mar 31, 7:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
WookieMan says
THREE out of 10K


Did the three even get actual tests, or just self-diagnose?

Actually tested and I believe it. These aren't people trying to get YouTube subscribers. It's still only 3 people though and only one of them would have spread it. Two most definitely got it from people visiting them as they're elderly and not very mobile. The other was still working, but was diabetic and had other issues and he passed.

The 3rd case is my babysitter's grandmother. On a ventilator currently. Probably will be dead soon unfortunately.

DON'T visit old people whatsoever!!! Otherwise this is pretty benign. My buddies aunt is mid 60's that had a positive test and she said it was very much flu like. The guy that died I think was about 61(ish) but diabetic and other issues. And my babysitter grandma is 80's with other issues that I don't fully know.

It's a killer, but we know who it's killing. Stay away from them. If they're not elderly, but weak and still going about their life, well.... they're dead. Not much we can do about that. I think that's the problem along with visiting old people.
21   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Mar 31, 7:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Because. I laid out my thinking, but apparently didn't read it. Doing the Kevin Bacon bull shit, if you go 2 levels deep (my friends/clients and their friends/clients/family), I can get information on probably 10k people. It just became 3 people ten minutes ago. THREE out of 10K and I'm probably underestimating the total on the 10k.

To hit the top end models, I'd have to have heard of at least 100+ friends and friends of friends that have been infected.


Yeah, it's some bull shit alright. You didn't actually lay out any basis for your thought.

Why is it that you "have to have heard of at least 100+ friends and friends of friends" by now? Why not 1, 10, or 1000?
22   just_dregalicious   ignore (2)   2020 Mar 31, 9:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
I live a half mile away from Joe DiMagio Memorial Hospital, and I haven't heard one single siren.


I thought that's all one ever hears in Florida in normal times? In particular ambulances...
23   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Mar 31, 10:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
Why is it that you "have to have heard of at least 100+ friends and friends of friends" by now? Why not 1, 10, or 1000?

You do know about the hyperbolic models that are being pumped in all media right now? Right? Including Trump's clan?

The fear mongering with this is staggering. My point is, given my sphere of people, I should know at least 100 people that have it, at minimum, that have been infected. It's 3 right now, 1 dead and another death coming. If ya wanna hockey stick this somehow after IL has already been shut down for 14 days, I'll eat my words in 5 days. Given I know 3 that means I should know 100 by the end of the week if your theory is correct and the medias theory.

That's what I'm getting at. Is it that complicated?
24   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Mar 31, 10:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_dregalicious says
Tenpoundbass says
I live a half mile away from Joe DiMagio Memorial Hospital, and I haven't heard one single siren.


I thought that's all one ever hears in Florida in normal times? In particular ambulances...

If you have kids all you get is shit eye from all the oldies. Especially in the retirement areas. We went to Tampa during off season for tourism. The fuck? Went to breakfast and if your iris' had laser pointers attached we'd have dozens on us. Could have been the wife for the men, but I think they were pissed that we were there with kids. My kids are top notch well behaved too. It was weird.
25   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (7)   2020 Mar 31, 10:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
ThreeBays says
Why is it that you "have to have heard of at least 100+ friends and friends of friends" by now? Why not 1, 10, or 1000?

You do know about the hyperbolic models that are being pumped in all media right now? Right? Including Trump's clan?

The fear mongering with this is staggering. My point is, given my sphere of people, I should know at least 100 people that have it, at minimum, that have been infected. It's 3 right now, 1 dead and another death coming. If ya wanna hockey stick this somehow after IL has already been shut down for 14 days, I'll eat my words in 5 days. Given I know 3 that means I should know 100 by the end of the week if your theory is correct and the medias theory.

That's what I'm getting at. Is it that complicated?


That’s quirky. My workplace is over 25 now, most of which I don’t now know, even as far as working with them goes. But no ones hospitalized and I don’t think anyone’s going to die.
26   marcus   ignore (13)   2020 Mar 31, 10:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

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just_dregalicious says
Tenpoundbass says
I live a half mile away from Joe DiMagio Memorial Hospital, and I haven't heard one single siren.


Did it ever occur to you that if people are going to the hospital with Corona Virus, even if by ambulance, they are usually at a stage that doesn't require a siren ?

If an ambulance is dispatched from the fire dept or whatever, and the paramedics decide (at the home - after using siren to get to the home) that it isn't the level of emergency that requires lights and sirens going to the hospital, then you're not going to hear ambulances with sirens just becasue you live near the hospital. I don't know, but I'm assuming people go to the hospital as soon as breathing starts to get difficult, or shortly thereafter, especially since people are somewhat well informed about this.

https://www.ems1.com/ems-products/ambulance-lights/articles/the-truth-about-ems-use-of-lights-and-sirens-r9pUQqroI61J1MOj/


In New Jersey, MONOC still responds to all calls with lights and sirens, although paramedics and EMTs can determine on scene if transports to the hospital are time-sensitive and need to go lights and sirens. The long-term goal is to decrease the use of lights and sirens, but one hurdle in improving triage is that police dispatchers answer all 911 calls, then contact EMS dispatchers if it’s a medical call. EMS dispatchers never actually speak to callers, Dworsky says.

The video supports the use of lights and sirens when dealing with a true emergency, but recommends improving patient triage by dispatchers to determine who truly needs a lights and sirens response.


It turns out that speeding using lights and sirens to go through red lights etc is dangerous. It's not done when it's not necessary.

Keep trying though, everyone on this forum is very clear on what you want to believe and what you "feel" is true.

marcus says
Good thing all the doctors in the US (over 1 million) are all libruls and know how to keep a secret.


In fairness, your typical doctor has almost no critical thinking skills and is hardly ever even at a hospital, so they wouldn't be likely to have an opinion anyway if this corona virus scare is exaggerated bs. So you're probably right, it would be easy for the globohomo elite to pull off a hoax on this scale.
27   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Apr 1, 12:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CovfefeButDeadly says
That’s quirky. My workplace is over 25 now, most of which I don’t now know, even as far as working with them goes. But no ones hospitalized and I don’t think anyone’s going to die.

Jesus. I was talking work people as well. 25? Maybe IL is behind the "curve" or whatever. It's very dead here (not people, just not much going on). St. Patrick's day was the biggie here and we're 14+ days removed at this point. Lockdown basically started here 15 days ago.

My wife has gone running almost daily by herself. Limited, to no interaction with another human. I've left the house 2-3 times. Hand sanitizer in the car and used every time. I think this is more contagious as what is being put out there, but I still think someone has to sneeze or cough around you in the moment. Or you are rubbing your face after touching a contaminated surface.

I generally never took individual vitamins or supplements. Just general stuff. Started taking vitamin D supplements about a year ago. Haven't been sick since... knock on wood. I don't know, I'm pretty convinced it's helping.
28   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 1, 12:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
If you have kids all you get is shit eye from all the oldies. Especially in the retirement areas. We went to Tampa during off season for tourism. The fuck? Went to breakfast and if your iris' had laser pointers attached we'd have dozens on us. Could have been the wife for the men, but I think they were pissed that we were there with kids. My kids are top notch well behaved too. It was weird.


I went to a Diner in South Florida and got the stink eye, too. At Lunchtime. Even though the place was 120dB from the multiple TVs and loud talking always. My kid simply drew with crayons at the table the whole meal. Staff was nice, but Old Pensioners, not at all, even though they were all shouting at each other across the table. "HEY MARGE, HOW IS THE RICE? WHAT?! THE RICE, HOW IS IT? NOT BAD FOR THE MONEY!"

My favorite is old people shopping. They lollygag for an hour to buy one or two things. But if they don't get checked out in less than 5 minutes, whinge moan bitch. They also love to go to the bank and lunch right when everybody with a job is on their lunch hour, though they have all day to BS.

I'm old enough to remember the Greatest Generation, total opposite. A handful of grouches, but most were polite and liked kids and teens (ie me).
29   marcus   ignore (13)   2020 Apr 1, 1:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

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Was that also in southern Florida ?
30   marcus   ignore (13)   2020 Apr 1, 1:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
My kid simply drew with crayons at the table the whole meal. Staff was nice, but Old Pensioners, not at all, even though they were all shouting at each other across the table.



IT's not possible that you've become more arrogant and whiney about others and judgmental of others in your (relative) old age ?

"ohhh, those old people were looking at me."
31   goofus   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 1, 5:25am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ambulances don't need sirens when there are so few cars on the road. I've seen ambulances with lights on / siren off in the last week.
32   Y   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 1, 7:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Atmospheric ground-level particles per cubic foot increase mightily in springtime due to the magnolia infestations in full bloom providing a surreal sound deadening effect
Tenpoundbass says
I live a half mile away from Joe DiMagio Memorial Hospital, and I haven't heard one single siren.
33   RC2006   ignore (2)   2020 Apr 1, 7:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I hear them every day but then again I have two assisted living facilities a quarter mile from house.
35   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 1, 8:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
That's what I'm getting at. Is it that complicated?


Sounds like just "feels". I don't feel like there's a tsunami coming cos I don't see anything, and it's just ripples around my ankles.

From what I can tell they're not being hyperbolic, on the contrary they keep on underestimating everything.

Their near term projection keeps going up a little every day as new data comes in. Two days ago 81K, yesterday 83K, today 94K. Things are always worse than these politicians tell you.

36   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 Apr 1, 8:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

marcus says
your typical doctor has almost no critical thinking skills

As dumb as Trump?
37   NDrLoR   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 1, 8:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BlueSardine says
Atmospheric ground-level particles per cubic foot increase mightily in springtime
I've been taking half a hayfever tab almost every day.
38   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Apr 1, 10:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says

There are no CV-19 experts.....🤥 Regardless of any observed traits similar to other virus', there are no experts, especially given China is a lying ass hoe. Hence why what you posted is absolute bill shit and it proves that. 20k up to 500k cases from the "experts" is a joke. The difference for the experts is 25x's different from low to high end. On what planet is this accuracy or expert opinion?

The number of cases is inconsequential for the most part. What "flattens" the curve is those that are susceptible to dying from this die from it. A vaccine best case with short development time is going to be at best 20-30% effective. This isn't going away anytime soon.

We haven't had a legit pandemic in a while. We were due. This is what I mean by fear mongering. There's nothing we can do long term. This is going to kill people that are weak. It sucks. I still don't understand the reaction is my point. I'm not disputing case numbers or deaths really. The numbers will go where they will. I don't have grandparents anymore and only my mom and mother in law. Death isn't new to me. What are you gonna do either way? I already have a friend with a coworker that died from this.

If it ends up at 2M dead in the US, oh well? WTF are you gonna do? It's a virus. Other pandemics have killed more per capita by a long shot in the last 50-70 years. This is so far showing to be a weak one. We'll see. Some people may not be turning in their census it sounds like.
39   ThreeBays   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 1, 3:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FWIW, my friend who drives for EMS in San Fran is saying ambulance calls are sharply down because of the shelter-in-place order. Traffic and work accidents are way down. Flu infections are down. Latest report from BC stated ER visits are 50% down.

Stay home, save lives, double whammy.
40   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Apr 1, 4:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
It started two weeks ago the Sunday after lockdown.
First a sore throat. Then my lungs started to feel congested. I dosed on the C, one gram twice daily. I drank more water than normal. I got this horrible pounding headache and achy body. I took ibuprofen. Not the worst cold of my life.But I'm a boomer and we been through worse.


Please nobody take Ibuprofen in the next three months, if you have covid19 but don't have symptoms but a headache. The Ibuprofen will turn it into Lung AIDS.

This is why there were so many Doctors and Nurses all over the world dying from it. People in the medical profession swear by Ibuprofen.


Anti-inflammatory drugs and COVID-19
The notion that anti-inflammatory drugs increase the risk of complications during fever or infection is “mostly theoretical,” Yang said.

Medical experts debate whether or not reducing the inflammation that causes fever and muscle ache actually lowers the effectiveness of the immune response. On the flip side, patients who have worse symptoms may be more likely to take ibuprofen, and their outcome may have nothing to do with the medication itself.

“There are some clinical observations of small numbers of patients that suggest ibuprofen could slow recoveryTrusted Source from bacterial pneumonias or make some viral infections like chickenpox more severe, but these aren’t careful prospective scientific studies,” Yang said.

“Other publications have even argued that ibuprofen can be helpful in lung infectionsTrusted Source by reducing the amount of inflammation, which may be damaging to the lung,” he added.

One thing specific to COVID-19 is that some lab experiments are showing that ibuprofen may boost the amount of ACE2 receptors that the virus uses to infect cells and could make the virus spread faster. But that is “purely theory that so far is not backed by clinical evidence in patients,” Yang said.

But it's clear if you look at the percentage of medical professionals dying from covid vs the rest of the population.
I dated several Nurses in my day, they took Ibuprofen for everything. I'm an aspirin man myself.
41   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (53)   2020 Apr 1, 4:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

As a matter of fact, I heard no fire trucks today as well, proving once and for all that the firebombing of Tokyo was a HOAX! and that Curtis LeMay is exactly like St Francis and we need to liquidate the Social Security trust fund and give the proceeds to someone THE! PLENIPOTENTIARY! can trust!
42   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 2, 6:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Curtis LeMay is exactly like St Francis

Did you just dis Curt LeMay? The CinC SAC who controlled 2/3 the Triad? The Warlord who had more mega-tonnage at his fingertips than any man in history? Beyond the pale, man.
43   Hausmeister T   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 2, 7:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

So far 15 cases in my county. Haven’t heard any siren yet.
44   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 2, 9:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I live within earshot of a busy expressway in San Jose.

Heard one yesterday in San Jose. But, that was the first in over a week.

Nearly all of them are related to traffic accidents so it's not too surprising we don't hear them much at all now.
45   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 2, 10:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I heard quite a lot a few days ago, more than usual. But none since.
46   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 2, 10:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

My county in GA has 293 cases.
47   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (53)   2020 Apr 2, 11:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Often used as a cover by Jihadi Globohomoists, the wife has standing orders to send an RPG through the windshield of any ambulance she sees on the street.
48   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 2, 11:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
Often used as a cover by Jihadi Globohomoists, the wife has standing orders to send an RPG through the windshield of any ambulance she sees on the street.

Why is your wife not barefoot and in kitchen, like a spouse of REAL Patriot?
49   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (53)   2020 Apr 2, 11:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
Why is your wife not barefoot and in kitchen, like a spouse of REAL Patriot?



She is, in fact, ass out facing a window with M134 mounted on it, begging me to give her the good news from behind.

Nothing more beautiful than rebounding off of her bountiful ass while she shreds enemies and laughs the laugh of the FREE!

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