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CNN Goes full retard and then doubles down on the retard


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2020 Apr 17, 8:05am   1,871 views  22 comments

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/16/business/elon-musk-ventilators-coronavirus/index.html

Shortly after the dramatic announcement, Musk said in a tweet: "China had an oversupply, so we bought 1255 FDA-approved ResMed, Philips & Medtronic ventilators on Friday night & airshipped them to LA. If you want a free ventilator installed, please let us know!"

But despite the claims, none of the ventilators promised by the Tesla (TSLA) CEO have been delivered to hospitals, according to the governor's office.

"Elon Musk and his team told the state that he had procured ventilators and wanted to distribute them directly to hospitals with shortages," a spokesperson for the California governor's Office of Emergency Services told CNN Wednesday.

"The Administration is communicating every day with hospitals across the state about their ventilator supply and to date we have not heard of any hospital system that has received a ventilator directly from Tesla or Musk."

Spokespersons for Tesla did not return CNN requests for comment.


Think you might hold off on the story until you confirm the facts?



CNN’s response was that Elon Musk should be upset with the governors office for providing CNN with incorrect information 🤨

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1   mell   2020 Apr 17, 1:22pm  

CNN is fake news and asshoe!
2   Ceffer   2020 Apr 17, 1:35pm  

Are there Emmy Awards and Oscars now for "Best Performance In Fake News"? Instead of applause meters, they need "Fool-o-Meters" and how they register on the "Useful Idiot Richter Scale".
3   marcus   2020 Apr 17, 1:39pm  

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Wait, so what is the story here ?

CNN reported what some California official told them ?

Back in the day, this was considered normal journalism. If someone made a mistake, then it's identified, maybe retracted.

I don't get it. Full retard ?

Wtf ?

It's not like Fox, just making shit up.
4   socal2   2020 Apr 17, 1:46pm  

marcus says
Wait, so what is the story here ?

CNN reported what some California official told them ?


Maybe they should have checked with Elon Musk before running a shit story about him?
5   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Apr 17, 1:58pm  

socal2 says
marcus says
Wait, so what is the story here ?

CNN reported what some California official told them ?


Maybe they should have checked with Elon Musk before running a shit story about him?


This!

Like actually check your sources and what they might actually know before running the story. A kid at your school writing a report and citing only one source....well hell its LAUSD so they probably get a C just for writing their name.... but you see what I’m getting at.

Then saying hey, take it up with the gov office....omfg.
6   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Apr 17, 1:59pm  

marcus says
Wait, so what is the story here ?

CNN reported what some California official told them ?

The story is that Elon Musk did something effective that would make Trump look ineffective by comparison. Only... it just so happens that the story was wrong and that the "news report" wasn't cross-checked in even the most simple and basic way.
7   HeadSet   2020 Apr 17, 2:28pm  

marcus says
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Wait, so what is the story here ?

CNN reported what some California official told them ?



Looks like we agree here. CNN will rush to publish anything told to them by a Democrat politician, with zero effort to confirm the facts or check the sources.
8   marcus   2020 Apr 17, 5:25pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Like actually check your sources and what they might actually know before running the story


Although, when your story is what the governors office says, and nothing more, then there is no problem. It's good journalism.

It's not like they said he Elon didn't deliver. Thay said a specific named individual said they didn't deliver. This is the type of story that only takes us closer to the truth as the conflicting narratives are resolved.

It's exactly what good journalism is supposed to do, and entirely what we don't have enough of anymore.
9   Onvacation   2020 Apr 17, 5:39pm  

marcus says
CNN reported what some California official told them ?

Back in the day, this was considered normal journalism. If someone made a mistake, then it's identified, maybe retracted.

No. Even today a real journalist would call up Musk's people and confirm.

CNN and many news organizations sole purpose is to perpetuate the narrative. Before Trump was elected the narrative was pussy grabbing. Then the long years of Russian collusion. The Ukrainian whistleblower impeachment narrative was supposed to drag out until the election but fizzled in January.

The latest narrative is that Trump fumbled the covid-19 pandemic that will potentially kill millions. Anything supporting the narrative will be promoted; anything against will be buried.
10   Onvacation   2020 Apr 17, 5:43pm  

marcus says

I don't get it. Full retard ?

Distinct possibility.
11   Onvacation   2020 Apr 17, 5:44pm  

jazz_music says

The biggest part of the story is still to come, unfortunately.

And yeah it doesn’t make Trump look good.

That's the narrative.
12   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Apr 17, 6:13pm  

marcus says
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Like actually check your sources and what they might actually know before running the story


Although, when your story is what the governors office says, and nothing more, then there is no problem. It's good journalism.

It's not like they said he Elon didn't deliver. Thay said a specific named individual said they didn't deliver. This is the type of story that only takes us closer to the truth as the conflicting narratives are resolved.

It's exactly what good journalism is supposed to do, and entirely what we don't have enough of anymore.


I really cannot decide if you have some blind spot that makes you appear obtuse, if you’re on the spectrum, or if you are just playing all of us.

Whatever it was, CNN’s actions were fucking miserable. Failing to wait for some other confirmation by either Musk or by calling a few of the biggest hospitals in the state(seriously they couldn’t call USC County or UCLA Harbor?) is an error of immense proportions, not to mention lazy as hell.
13   HeadSet   2020 Apr 17, 8:37pm  

you are just playing all of us.

I am thinking in this thread, Marcus is playing us. Like Trump does the media. I also think the oft misspelled "because" is more of a trademark than an error.
14   marcus   2020 Apr 17, 8:47pm  

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If CNN had said the hospitals didn't get the the ventilators, then you would be completely right.

But what they say is that the governors office says they didn't get them.

That is actually a story, whether you are too far gone to understand it or not.

Sure they could have cut Musk some slack. But that would be ignoring a story. Chances are that one of the things that was happening was lighting a fire under Musk's ass, IF (BIG IF BUT POSSIBLY LIFE OR DEATH MATTER), IF Musk was exaggerating.

Either Musk had exaggerated or the governors office lied or the governors office is incompetent.

Why isn't one of those 3 things being true a story ?

Please explain, I really want to know.

(By the way, I'm probably more of an Elon Musk fan than many of you are, and I am no fan of CNN. I haven't watched it at all, or even had cable in years).
15   marcus   2020 Apr 17, 8:54pm  

HeadSet says
"because" is more of a trademark than an error.


I wish. Closer to the truth is that I don't type well, And also I don't wear my reading glasses, becasue I can get away with not wearing them (eye sight greatly improved after cataract surgery a few years ago).

Those things combined mean that when I'm looking for typos I only notice the glaring ones or the ones that spell check picks up on. For whatever reason, spelll check on this forum doesn't catch that. It wouldn't happen if spell check here caught it. The fact that becasue annoys whomever that is that it annoys is just a bonus.
16   HeadSet   2020 Apr 17, 10:24pm  

If CNN had said the hospitals didn't get the the ventilators, then you would be completely right.

Be real. That is EXACTLY what the CNN story was saying, despite the "according to the governor's office" weasel clause. That "governor's office" statement is used to push credibility, and the "to date we have not heard of any hospital system that has received a ventilator directly from Tesla or Musk" was put in to buttress that claim, and the "Spokespersons for Tesla did not return CNN requests for comment" was added to imply that Musk was caught with his pants down. Anyone seeing that CNN report would think "Musk promised ventilators, did not deliver, and now is hiding from reporters," which is exactly the tale that CNN wanted them to get.
17   marcus   2020 Apr 17, 11:29pm  

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To me you make very little sense.

Are you saying that you do not believe that the governors office told them that ? I'm arguing that the governors office telling them that is a story.

You don't see that they are in effect asking Musk, and in fact giving him an awesome opportunity for publicity by showing that he did in fact deliver ?
18   Reality   2020 Apr 18, 7:25am  

marcus says
Although, when your story is what the governors office says, and nothing more, then there is no problem. It's good journalism.

It's not like they said he Elon didn't deliver. Thay said a specific named individual said they didn't deliver. This is the type of story that only takes us closer to the truth as the conflicting narratives are resolved.

It's exactly what good journalism is supposed to do, and entirely what we don't have enough of anymore.


LOL! So are you saying Chinese and North Korean Journalists unquestioningly repeating and citing their government officials are good journalism and how journalism should be?

Are you saying Nazi journalists unquestioningly repeating and citing Dr. Goebbles was good journalism and how journalism should be?

Seems you are not able to distinguish between Good Journalism vs. Government/Bureaucratic Propaganda. CNN was functioning as a megaphone for bureaucratic lies. Every word out of the mouth of a bureaucrat should be assumed to be a lie until proven otherwise: because the person obvioiusly can't establish credibility in a competitive market place among competing voices therefore willing to become a life-long paid bureaucrat with little to no upside reward for his/her potentially outstanding performance but some degree of bottom-side protection for screw-ups / mediocrity.
19   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 18, 11:11am  

What happened here was the total absence of Journalistic Standards and it's replacement with "Advocacy Journalism"

Even back on the HS Newspaper, we were told to get two sources and contact the person/entity being featured in the story for their take. Same thing was told to me in Journo 1010 in College. You are ALWAYS supposed to get the subject of the article's take, especially on an accusation this dramatic.

The whole "Well the Governor's office said" is a dodge. Why didn't they call up some hospitals and ask? Why didn't they wait for Tesla to respond? They rushed out a story without doing due diligence, because they wanted it to be true. "Evil Billionaires!"
20   Y   2020 Apr 18, 12:13pm  

CNN clinton news Network
NPR nancy pelosi reruns
That sums it up...
21   marcus   2020 Apr 18, 12:18pm  

NoCoupForYou says
You are ALWAYS supposed to get the subject of the article's take, especially on an accusation this dramatic.


Again. They did not report that the hospitals didn't have them. They reported that the governors office said the hospitals didn't have them. That's a story. Checking with Musk only identifies a contradiction. Putting the Governors offices claim out there, get's us to the truth. Sure digging deeper might have served the same purpose.

But look at the outcome. Musk ended up showing a curious world the details. The only one hurt by the story is the governors office. I guess you guys can say CNN was hurt by it. But not in my opinion.

In my opinion the governors office took a massive hit with this story, which totally blows the idiotic claim that I'm advocating propaganda. Quite the opposite in fact.

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