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#BlackCrimeMatters

By Patrick follow Patrick   2020 Jun 6, 4:29pm 1,463 views   96 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Almost no one in the US discriminates against blacks just because they are black.

Most of what is called "racism" is just a statistically justified fear of crime. It's not fair to the individual black person when others avoid him out of fear, but it's also not fair to tell everyone else that they must significantly increase their personal risk of crime to be "anti-racist".

Poverty may cause crime, but crime also causes poverty. Businesses flee and there are fewer jobs and services in high-crime areas. No one wants to lend to start a business where that business is likely to be bankrupted due to crime, or burned down in the inevitable next riot. Black families are also impoverished by lawyers and other costs of dealing with the legal system when junior decides it's a good idea to pull a gun and gets caught. People with the means to move away from crime-ridden areas do so as soon as they can.

Probably most black crime is committed by a minority of very bad people. If those people can be permanently locked up, that would help everyone.

To say #BlackLivesMatter without talking about the much higher rate of black crime above the crime rates of all other groups is to ignore the fundamental problem.

#BlackCrimeMatters too, and must be spoken about if anything is to ever improve.

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57   goofus   ignore (0)   2020 Jun 8, 12:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

A bit incoherent, but I'll try to reply:

jazz_music says
A brutal austerity has befallen America since Reagan's time with the lie of trickle down economics, the busting of unions, the revolutionary Powell memorandum all because of propagandizing libertarian themes, free market magic and removing all the common-sense policies that every other civilized country in the world practices.


Crime rates took off in the 1970's before Reaganomics. The cause was lax policing and hands-off policies. It wasn't until Bill Bratton's "broken windows" approach of the mid-90's that crime got under control. But, the left hasn't learned a thing and is in the process of recreating the 1970's. Ah, nostalgia!

jazz_music says
The whole right wing revolution exists to make wages cheaper. It's now America can't do anything but assure the wealthy empires and wage terror and war on the world.


The right wing contains many disaffected leftists who recognize that both parties supported GATT, NAFTA, China's "most favored nation" status in WTO, and now TPP (Obama's baby). Reaganomics was just the beginning -- Bush I and II, Clinton, and Obama continued the same policies. Trump through opposing unilateral trade deals, off-shoring manufacturing, and tariff-free insourcing of product, has defied his globalist betters. And they hate him for it. And they've convinced you to hate him too.

jazz_music says
Life expectancy is now tied to wealth.


Life expectancy over the last 20 years has gone up for every group -- black, hispanic, and asian -- EXCEPT whites. And no one bothered to notice the suicide and opioid-induced increase in white mortality until 2014. (The authors originally had a hard time getting it reviewed, let alone published -- not that the data was bad, but that it countered the narrative of oppressed POC and privileged PO-"whiteness.")

jazz_music says
Murders per se are defined by how you count them for a desired narrative.


Murders are in fact the gold standard in crime reporting. A dead person is hard to overlook, and even if hidden, family or friends will notify police. There is no grey area there, as you allege, particularly not in our inner cities where levels are routinely over 20 dead per 100K per annum. Warzone levels of criminality.

jazz_music says
Your desire is evidently to establish one or more races as genetically inferior or murderous. So what about all those BROWN PEOPLE in Moldova, Ghana, Bangladesh, they fit your sick narrative.


Bizarre and ignorant. I included all three nations to represent black (Ghana), brown (Bangladesh), and white (Moldova), to show that outsized criminality is not a necessary condition of being poor, or indeed of being black. And Moldova is a slavic country, FYI.

There's something sick in encouraging structureless, fatherless "communities of color" through perverse benefits incentives, weak school discipline, and increasingly weak policing. It becomes Lord of the Flies when the 15-35 year old demographic controls the streets, unemployed, with criminal enterprises to fund their gangs (drugs, prostitution, gun-running).

The left, in retaining purity of heart, looks the other way on random acts of violence -- and then blames police or racism or anything but the perpetrators.
58   socal2   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 8, 12:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

goofus says
There's something sick in encouraging structureless, fatherless "communities of color" through perverse benefits incentives, weak school discipline, and increasingly weak policing.


Yep - fuck all of them until they have an honest discussion about these failed policies that created generations of poverty in the African American community.

No amount of government Affirmative Action, Contract Preferences, after-school programming, let alone Reparations is going to make up for the generational poverty and dysfunction of single parent households.

But the Left has made it "RAAACIST" to even have this discussion.

Fucking BLM is still celebrating this destructive life choice in their charter!

*We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.*
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
59   goofus   ignore (0)   2020 Jun 8, 12:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Fuck this entire insane racial supremacy/inferiority con job.


NPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.
60   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 8, 12:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

goofus says
NPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.
What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns
61   goofus   ignore (0)   2020 Jun 8, 1:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
goofus says
NPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.
What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns


I'm here for coherent arguments, not blathering about "supremacy."
62   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 8, 1:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

goofus says
I'm here for coherent arguments, not blathering about "supremacy."
WGAF
63   goofus   ignore (0)   2020 Jun 8, 1:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
goofus says
I'm here for coherent arguments, not blathering about "supremacy."
WGAF


That's right - coherence is racist, math is racist, logic is racist.

And "WGAF" is maturity in action.
64   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 8, 1:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

goofus says
That's right - coherence is racist, math is racist, logic is racist.

And "WGAF" is maturity in action.
make sense
65   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 8, 1:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
goofus says
NPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.
What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns


Stop commiting arson then.
66   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 8, 1:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
jazz_music says
goofus says
NPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.
What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns


Stop commiting arson then.
This talk is insane and a waste of time
67   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 8, 1:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
jazz_music says
goofus says
NPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.
What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns


Stop commiting arson then.
This talk is insane and a waste of time


Talk? Burning buildings were all over TV for the last two weeks.
68   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 8, 1:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
Burning buildings were all over TV for the last two weeks.
Fake news
69   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Jun 8, 1:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

goofus says
That's right - coherence is racist, math is racist, logic is racist.


You forgot:

Astronomy is Colonized
Western Civ is White Supremacy
E=mc2 is a Sexed Equation
70   TrumpingTits   ignore (4)   2020 Jun 8, 6:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"The vision of the left, full of envy and resentment, takes its worst toll on those at the bottom — whether black or white — who find in that paranoid vision an excuse for counterproductive and ultimately self-destructive attitudes and behavior." -- Thomas Sowell
71   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (7)   2020 Jun 8, 6:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
Burning buildings were all over TV for the last two weeks.
Fake news


Lol how?
72   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 8, 6:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
Burning buildings were all over TV for the last two weeks.
Fake news


Yep, even them reported it. Here:

73   TrumpingTits   ignore (4)   2020 Jun 8, 6:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Dumbass Liberals set the police station on fire and burn down the liquor store with it.

@Patrick when I can I use the word 'Libtard' when it is accurately used? I mean even once in a while a bitch is really in reference to a female dog, right?

This is one of those times.
74   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 8, 6:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Please don't use "libtard". It's not anything we can have a reasonable discussion about, nor is "Trumptard".

Let's talk about policies and results, and general philosophies.
75   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Jun 8, 6:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

We just had the worst 24 hours of murder in Chicago History in 60 Years

All victims and perps Black.

https://t.co/zJnCXDWvQQ?amp=1

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime?utm_campaign=chicago.suntimes&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Black Lives Don't Matter, unless it's one of the very rare Police Fatalities.
76   Ceffer   ignore (4)   2020 Jun 8, 6:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

If whites were blacks, then blacks would really have something to worry about.
77   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2020 Jun 9, 4:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
We just had the worst 24 hours of murder in Chicago History in 60 Years

All victims and perps Black.

https://t.co/zJnCXDWvQQ?amp=1

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime?utm_campaign=chicago.suntimes&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Black Lives Don't Matter, unless it's one of the very rare Police Fatalities.

Stop your systemic racism. Blacks should be allowed to kill each other in abundance. Who are you to tell blacks not to kill each other?
78   RC2006   ignore (2)   2020 Jun 9, 7:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      



All those jobs gone. Who are those workers out of a job going to vote for?
80   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 9, 9:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
A brutal austerity has befallen America since Reagan's time


Oh come on. Nobody in America is starving. Even people that WANT to live in a cardboard box can get food easily. Most Americans have smart phones giving them access to a world of information and entertainment. Anyone that talks about the poverty and lack of "safety net" has never spent any time in the hammock that is the social services system we pay for today.

Anyone that wants to work can. Agreed that it can be brutal when you have no skills or work ethic. But one will never get skills or work ethic without trying. Bringing manufacturing jobs back from the polluting slave labor countries we have outsourced them to will help. A young man can choose to work hard and eventually become successful or be a lazy thug. Unfortunately the thug subculture, supported by mainstream media, is very appealing to young men with no fathers.

Where is this "brutal austerity" you talk of?
81   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 9, 9:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Fuck this entire insane racial supremacy/inferiority con job.

With you there. Judge them on the content of their character not the color of their skin.
82   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 9, 9:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

goofus says
There's something sick in encouraging structureless, fatherless "communities of color" through perverse benefits incentives, weak school discipline, and increasingly weak policing. It becomes Lord of the Flies when the 15-35 year old demographic controls the streets, unemployed, with criminal enterprises to fund their gangs (drugs, prostitution, gun-running).

The left, in retaining purity of heart, looks the other way on random acts of violence -- and then blames police or racism or anything but the perpetrators.

Excellent analysis!
83   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 9, 9:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"911."
"Yes, someone is robbing my house."
"The police no longer exist."
"But someone is robbing my house!"
"Check your privilege."
84   REpro   ignore (0)   2020 Jun 9, 4:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Presidential funeral happen to be for criminal Floyd.
Next: bronze statue in front of WH.
85   richwicks   ignore (2)   2020 Jun 9, 5:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says


That information is not clear. It doesn't tell me if the labels of "black", "white" and "hispanic" are victims or perpetrators.
86   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Jun 9, 6:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
"911."
"Yes, someone is robbing my house."
"The police no longer exist."
"But someone is robbing my house!"
"Check your privilege."


lol even that could be a plot by the globalist billionaires. They can afford blackwater style mercenary security, and good luck trying that SJW BLM shit when blackwater starts shooting negroes and honkees left and right. They are untouchable and will happily shoot any protesters in the way as well while giving zero fucks about their triggered micro-aggressed feelings. People of any color will soon wish they had a police force with a few bad apples only like they had in the good old zomg! white privilege days.
87   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Jun 9, 6:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

mell says
Patrick says
"911."
"Yes, someone is robbing my house."
"The police no longer exist."
"But someone is robbing my house!"
"Check your privilege."


lol even that could be a plot by the globalist billionaires. They can afford blackwater style mercenary security, and good luck trying that SJW BLM shit when blackwater starts shooting negroes and honkees left and right. They are untouchable and will happily shoot any protesters in the way as well while giving zero fucks about their triggered micro-aggressed feelings. People of any color will soon wish they had a police force with a few bad apples only like they had in the good old zomg! white privilege days.


If there is no police, the neighborhood watch everywhere will become the neighborhood armed watch. And if someone gets caught doing something illegal, there will be triple-S treatment instead of today's catch-and-release SOP. People who didn't like that Aubery situation shouldn't wish for police to go away. But they are too stupid to understand that.

Imagine HOA with guns. Scary, huh?
88   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Jun 9, 7:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"WhAt WiLl We RePlAcE ThE pOLiCe WiTh?!?!"

Social Workers. Crisis staff trained in de-escalation. Womens' shelters. Counsellors. Planned Parenthood. Therapists. Safe injection sites. Rehab. Community outreach. Night classes. Affordable health care. #ImagineSomethingDifferent— Simu Liu (@SimuLiu) June 9, 2020


This tweet is not sarcastic.

"911, what's your privilege?"
"Halp! Somebody just broke my window and they're climbing into my house. They look really messed up, keep talking about how they're gonna pop the purple smoke."
"Ma'am, first of all, it's extremely privileged that you can even call 911. You can let the troubled person with an emotional handicap and medical condition know that there is a safe injection site about 5 blocks from your home. Can you drive him there?"
89   ignoreme   ignore (3)   2020 Jun 9, 8:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
We just had the worst 24 hours of murder in Chicago History in 60 Years


Black community, it’s time to stop being slaves. Support your local police. Don’t let the Democrat establishment shame you into letting criminals hunt you down in the streets so that they can win an election.

If you think black lives matter (I do) demand police protection and prosecution of these murderers.
90   RC2006   ignore (2)   2020 Jun 9, 8:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

All dems are doing is promoting more thug behaviors by making a martyr out of a thug and promoting a white hate group. They want whites to dislike blacks and keep everyone divided under thier thumb because its the easiest way to control. It's a bonus that they incited so many millinials many of which are turning against their own family.
92   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 18, 8:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
That information is not clear. It doesn't tell me if the labels of "black", "white" and "hispanic" are victims or perpetrators.


@richwicks this graph is clearer:



Again, most black people won't hurt you, but statistically, you're much more likely to be hurt by a black person than someone of any other race. This is also true for black people: they are much more likely to be hurt by another black person than by someone of any other race.

And this is a home-grown issue. Pretty sure that immigrant blacks from the Caribbean and Africa are not nearly as risky to be around. Ie, it's cultural with American blacks.
93   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2020 Jun 19, 8:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Actually, what BLM is protesting is even rarer. It is not "Black killed by Whites" but "Blacks killed by White Police."

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