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Journalists were always liberal biased since the 70s.

BUT, they were trained to go after politicians, scam artists, etc. and enjoy busting them up.

The current crop was raised on "Accountability Journalism" or "Narrative-Pushing Journalism", since bias is impossible to control, just push your Narrative.

TrumpingTits says

...of course, the MSM were mostly white boomers back then:

No, they were from the Silent Generation.

Boomers run the media now and have been running it since sometime in mid 1990 - government too.

They are the worst most incapable generation this nation has ever seen. The press died under their watch.

Dunno, pathologic liar and Alzheimer's make him an ideal Dem candidate it seems. The corruption is just secret sauce. Perfect.

richwicks says

They are the worst most incapable generation this nation has ever seen. The press died under their watch.

I tend to agree with this. I know we have boomers here. I don't dislike individual boomers, given that's the age of my parents and a lot of people I know. But overall I think history will see them as a failure of a generation. They've fucked up a lot of things, not just media. And again, I'm not talking about your average Joe boomer before a boomer gets all pissed at this comment. Your own generation likely fucked you over as well.

WookieMan says

richwicks says

They are the worst most incapable generation this nation has ever seen. The press died under their watch.

I tend to agree with this. I know we have boomers here. I don't dislike individual boomers, given that's the age of my parents and a lot of people I know. But overall I think history will see them as a failure of a generation. They've fucked up a lot of things, not just media. And again, I'm not talking about your average Joe boomer before a boomer gets all pissed at this comment. Your own generation likely fucked you over as well.

I'm generation X - we're a mixed bag. Rachael Maddow is from my generation. Some of the biggest most obvious sellouts and propagandists are from my generation, however my generation made the Internet.

richwicks says

Boomers

Had the misfortune of reaching their formative years during the chaos of the cultural/sexual revolutions of the late 60's, early 70's and many simply dove in and never came up for air, bought everything negative about it. Shack up instead of marriage, rejection of the mostly Protestant/Catholic/Jewish faiths in which they were reared, were ready for all the ABC (anything but Christianity) cults that sprang up in the 70's, mostly in California--est, primal scream, rolfing, I'm OK, You're OK nonsense, and probably the biggest one of all Scientology, and of course the exploding drug culture took a lot of them out and still does to this day. What you're exposed to in those years usually stays with you and influences you for the rest of your life. A huge number of serial killers are Boomers or close to it: Randy Kraft ('45), Ted Bundy ('46), Randall Woodfield ('50), et al.

TrumpingTits says

richwicks says

No, they were from the Silent Generation.

Ted Koppel and Eleanor Clift both born in 1940. George Will 1941. Yep. Silenters.

Here, want to hear what I think is an excellent intellect from the silent generation?

www.youtube.com/embed/4sM5sQIZXlg

In response to NDrLoR:


My parents are from the Silent Generation but my aunt (my mother's sister) - she's boomer. She wasn't promiscuous or a drug addict or anything like that - but she's different in political viewpoints.

The thing I notice most about the boomers is they are so intransigent in their beliefs. They believe TV. They don't use the Internet for information, they trust authorities (either on the left or the right) and they don't have critical thinking skills.

She's a teacher - she's not stupid at all, but good luck winning an argument with her.

She was once out in Silicon Valley and I was grumbling about the waste that is Moffet Field. I pointed out they have a private golf course, which is right next to shoreline golf course. She countered by saying that Hewlett Packard had a private park next to Big Basin - which it does. HP paid for that, by selling computer and building infrastructure which business and individuals voluntarily paid for. She couldn't see the difference between that, and me being taxed to pay for a golf course that I'd be forcibly ejected from if I was caught on the property.

TrumpingTits says

richwicks says

Here, want to hear what I think is an excellent intellect from the silent generation?

Who do you think is peppering PatNet with TS quotes? :)

Honestly, I don't have a good ability of remembering names and I tend to ignore who says way, and I pay attention to what is said.

Having said that, there are some people who are just merely annoying and I remember them in order to simply ignore them.

WookieMan says

richwicks says

They are the worst most incapable generation this nation has ever seen. The press died under their watch.

I tend to agree with this. I know we have boomers here. I don't dislike individual boomers, given that's the age of my parents and a lot of people I know. But overall I think history will see them as a failure of a generation. They've fucked up a lot of things, not just media. And again, I'm not talking about your average Joe boomer before a boomer gets all pissed at this comment. Your own generation likely fucked you over as well.

Have to agree with this too. We had a few people on here defending the boomers whenever their failures came up and blaming everything on the millenials, but the truth is that the millenials are the product of the boomers.

This is classic!! The3 callout on the MSM is dead on. Now they are firmly in the lap of the left. The NTY and others have recently removed people that "don't carry the narrative" which is simply tacit censorship. I have to get all my news scrounging elsewhere.

BLM's patron saint is Asshat Shakur, a convicted copkiller who escaped Prison for Castro's Cuba, and involved in multiple terror attacks. All BLM meetings include her "poetry". She's on the FBI Most Wanted list, for Fuck's Sake.

This is never mentioned by the Media

Imagine if Right Wing groups had mass protests over the country, solicited international donations, and featured a poem every meeting written by Eric Rudolph. Every single report would mention that.

Kenji says

Al Gore made the internet.

Al Gore is a boomer. Born 1948.

Marc Andreessen was born in 1971.

These were the Generation Jones that did Gopher, and co-developed Mosaic.

Tim Berners-Lee 1955
Eric Bina 1964

X did most of the creation of the infrastructure. They also developed broadband. They also created ip telephony.

Kenji says

richwicks says

Kenji says

Al Gore made the internet.

Al Gore is a boomer. Born 1948.

Marc Andreessen was born in 1971.

These were the Generation Jones that did Gopher, and co-developed Mosaic.

Tim Berners-Lee 1955
Eric Bina 1964

X did most of the creation of the infrastructure. They also developed broadband. They also created ip telephony.

Anyone have the energy to explain my post to this guy? I'm tired.

I remember Al Gore's quote "I took the Initiative in inventing the Internet".

He said this when he was running against the sociopathic liar George W. Bush.

Al Gore actually probably won the presidency with all those hanging chads, what with Jeb Bush running Florida at the time as governor, but I'm very happy that Duh became president. His lying us into a war over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program DID give us a clone of him after a great tan and a diction class, but it's pretty much destroyed the credibility of the leadership of both parties as a result.

If Gore was president, we'd still have gone to war with Iraq. Gore would probably have argued "We helped install Saddam Hussein in Iraq and supported him from 1980 to 1988 and that was WONG - so we have a MORAL DUTY to remove him. He's a very bad man! We need to do it to prevent a humanitarian crisis!" - and we would have ended up in the Iraq War - the dummy Republican voters would have opposed it calling it nation building, and the dummy Democratic voters would have supported it - the same EXACT result would have emerged.

And then in 2008 THEN we would have gotten John McCain as president who would have then spent 7 years blowing up Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. They were just puppets. They do the same thing but give you different lies about why they do them and if you doubt this...

Joe Lieberman was Al Gore's running mate - he was forced to leave the Democratic Party for his unqualified absolute support of the Iraq War. He ran as an independent, but what he really is, is just another meat puppet. Let that sink in, the VP pick for president in 2000 left his party to support a war his opposition lied this nation into.

Kenji says

richwicks says

Kenji says

richwicks says

Kenji says

Al Gore made the internet.

Al Gore is a boomer. Born 1948.

Marc Andreessen was born in 1971.

These were the Generation Jones that did Gopher, and co-developed Mosaic.

Tim Berners-Lee 1955
Eric Bina 1964

X did most of the creation of the infrastructure. They also developed broadband. They also created ip telephony.

Anyone have the energy to explain my post to this guy? I'm tired.

I remember Al Gore's quote "I took the Initiative in inventing the Internet".

He said this when he was running against the sociopathic liar George W. Bush.

Al Gore actually...

No he didn't probably actually win the presidency in 2000?

I don't care to argue it. It doesn't matter if he did or not. Bush's ascension to the presidency destroyed the Bush dynasty. Hillary later destroyed the Clinton dynasty. If Gore had become president, I'm not entirely confident that would have happened.

richwicks says

I'm generation X

Racism, sexism, ageism, whatever separates us on appearance separates us. There are good, capable, successful, people of all races. There are also a lot of losers. To blanketly state thatrichwicks says

Boomers [...] are the worst most incapable generation this nation has ever seen.

is divisive.

Trump is a boomer, but so are the Clintons

The "greatest" generation caused a bunch of grief for the world; why not dis them? They hung on to power way too long. Pelosi, Bernie, Feinstein, Orrin Hatch, Harry Reid, Patrick Leahy, Lamar Alexander, Boxer, Mitch McConnell and a bunch of dead psychopaths are all part of the greatest. The problems they caused still need to be fixed.

If you need an enemy there are a lot better asshoes in the world than baby boomers. We need to figure out what unites us regardless of color, race, age, and all of the other prejudicial outer characteristics of people.

By chance of birth I'm a boomer, and I did not fuck up the world.

Onvacation says

If you need an enemy there are a lot better asshoes in the world than baby boomers.

No, there aren't. The "greatest" generation went through the Great Depression, and put in a bunch of stuff to prevent it from happening again. They went to WWII and they fought in it, and they would fucking kill the government if they were 40 today, and were still alive.

The boomer generation removed all that work. Glass-Steagall is gone. Bailouts of the banking system were utterly unthinkable without jail time. I remember when 1000 S&L criminals went to jail, although Neil Bush escaped it. Obama didn't put a single person in jail, even though there was clear fraud in the MERS systems and CDOs. Bear Sterns was caught selling CDO securities when they were SHORTING them - that's financial fraud - engh - who cares?

Look, I'm going to get to probably live through Depression 2.0 - but at least I can see the boomers go through it too.

I had family on the other side of the Iran Curtain. When the USSR fell do you know how the younger generation treated the old and elderly that created the system, and allowed complete subjugation of their children, and grandchildren? They let them starve, and spit on them - literally.

The boomer generation is equally corrupt as the first generation of the USSR. They haven't done a fucking thing to put the breaks on the government. 40 years of NO OVERSIGHT of the government. Oh, you bought too much house and have been living recklessly? Oh, well, no problem, bailout. Oh, and let the Fed goose up home prices again so the boomers have more spending money. Their kids? Fuck them, they don't need to buy a house! So it costs 6 times yearly salary to buy a house now? It was only 2-3 in 1970, and 20% down.

I'm telling you, the government is just run by sociopaths, and the largest demographic once a FEW more boomers kick it, are the MILLENNIALS. Can they afford a house? Oh, they will be able to, they will be pandered to just like the boomers were. It should have happened in 2007, but hey, boomers were all in for that 700 billion dollar bailout. They didn't care nobody went to jail.

A home was not an asset in the depression, it was a liability because people couldn't move around to find work. It tied them to a geographical location. It's going to be like that again.

Yeah, the government is going to stab them in the back. You think they're going to get Social Security? The national debt just went up 5 trillion dollars in the last 2 months. Think their investments will save them? Why? The Millenials don't have much cash in the stock market. You think it's because the wealthy have a bunch of money in the stockmarket that they'll save it forever? No, the wealthy will be shorting it on the way down - they have inside information. Same thing happened on Black Monday.

There will be no place for boomers to invest, inflation is going to be severe, they may own a million dollar McMansion, well, if they paid it off, maybe they can die there. A million bucks, that will standard salary for a nurse. Of course, hardly any boomers pay off their house. My parents did - they owned two houses and they weren't divorced.

You know why this happened? The national debt has been doubling every 8 years since the boomers became adults. Since the Nixon Shock. That was 1971

The national debt was $398,129,744,455.54 in 1971

https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/239719-james-quinn/18242-national-debt-by-year

Don't believe the national debt has doubled every 8 years for their ENTIRE adult lifetime?

1971 starts at: $398,129,744,455.54
1979 $398,129,744,455.54 x 2 = $796,259,488,911.08
1987 $796,259,488,911.08 x 2 = $1,592,518,977,822.16
1995 $1,592,518,977,822.16 x 2 = $3,185,037,955,644.32
2003 $3,185,037,955,644.32 x 2 = $6,370,075,911,288.64
2011 $6,370,075,911,288.64 x 2 = $12,740,151,822,577.28
2019 $12,740,151,822,577.28 x 2 = $25,480,303,645,154.56

Here's the debt today.

$25,919,453,000,000.00

https://usdebtclock.org/

I'm off by less than a year, over a 48 year trend. The national debt will definitely be 50 trillion dollars by 2027, in another 8, 100 trillion - or the US will be bankrupt - I'm betting the later. Wages haven't gone up in nearly 3 decades Whose going to buy the boomer's assets? How can they afford it?

This was entirely predictable but all I've heard my entire life is that I'm paranoid and don't know what I'm talking about when I tried to warn them. Fuck it. I did my boyscout good duty. They are impossible to communicate with. I can talk to my parents though and they are like "Yeah, I know but what can you do?"

It's going to be one hell of a shitshow. Wish I was 10 years younger, but I did plan for it for 20 years.

Boomers fucked over the country though negligence, but man, they're about to really get fucked now. Oh well. Here - try to tell a boomer about it, warn them about it, they're not going to believe you. Hmm, you're a boomer, I bet you don't believe me - if you even listened to me. "Well, what can you do?" - I'm just some punk kid who is pushing 50. Who would believe me? I've known about this pattern for 30 years.

If you want to see a really interesting pattern, divide the national debt by what an ounce of gold costs, from 1900 to today - basically, get the debt in terms of gold. You'll see an interesting pattern there.

Every exponential function in nature ends in a sudden contraction. Population growth, economic growth, consumption growth - everything. There is never a nice even topping out and it just stays there. It's going to be interesting.

richwicks says

Boomers fucked over the country though negligence

It's so nice to have Patnet to rant and rave on.

So it costs 6 times yearly salary to buy a house now? It was only 2-3 in 1970, and 20% down.

That is the source of the entire issue - the causal acceptance of debt. If all house and car purchases required 20% down we would have far less debt and see far more affordable homes and cars. Right now, with excessive mortgage interest, all that economic benefit is sucked up by the bankers.

HeadSet says

So it costs 6 times yearly salary to buy a house now? It was only 2-3 in 1970, and 20% down.

That is the source of the entire issue - the causal acceptance of debt. If all house and car purchases required 20% down we would have far less debt and see far more affordable homes and cars. Right now, with excessive mortgage interest, all that economic benefit is sucked up by the bankers.

Yeah, there's been an active encouragement to get people to walk into debt slavery.

My parents (and their parents) actively warned me against this. This is what happened in the 1920's after the Federal Reserve was created.

Back then though, if a bank went bankrupt - the banker was PERSONALLY LIABLE for the loss. That's why you had bankers jumping from buildings. The depositors still lost their savings. In the 1980's in the S&L scandal - depositors were bailed out, the S&L owners who didn't do their due diligence were found blameless, and the people who pulled the scam - at least went to jail. The scam was a network of people. One of them would buy some useless land, sell the worthless property to another person in the group for a profit, and they would sell it to somebody else at a profit, and so on - gradual driving the price up of the land - and finally the last guy would default leaving the now very highly valued property to the S&L.

In 2007 - our entire real estate market became that scam with everybody participating - and nobody went to jail.

It will be interesting how it's handled this time. Federal Reserve backstops everything - but here's the pinch, they ultimately own the assets on default. The boomer generation may have sold the entire country to the Federal Reserve to live the high life. They did a reverse mortgage on the ENTIRE NATION.

How the fuck is that guy still in politics? And a supposedly viable candidate for POTUS?

FuckCCP89 says

How the fuck is that guy still in politics? And a supposedly viable candidate for POTUS?

Easy:

www.youtube.com/embed/oysFCNPg0DA

He's a prostitute. It doesn't matter what anybody says - our news media is propaganda - their job is to represent the people who prostitutes are willing to sell themselves to. Our news media are prostitutes as well - so as a result, you don't hear these statements.

The big problem our propaganda media has with Trump is that he's apparently not the same sort of prostitute. If Trump is a prostitute, he's not selling himself out to the same people that the media has prostituted themselves out to.

He's a prostitute.

Yep, that is why he and his family acquired so much wealth, despite just being in politics his whole adult life.