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H1B Battle on the Horizon


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2020 Jun 16, 6:22am   2,879 views  31 comments

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1   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jun 16, 7:18am  

NoCoupForYou says
How could we NOT suspend all H1Bs right now?


The Senate GOP!
2   Patrick   2020 Jun 16, 8:08am  

End H1B!

End illegal immigration!

End outsourcing to China!
3   Patrick   2020 Jun 16, 8:09am  

Let's track which Congressmen vote for H1B loopholes.

The H1B program should be stopped. Full stop.
4   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 16, 12:24pm  

Patrick says
End H1B!

End illegal immigration!

End outsourcing to China!


End offshoring to India too.
5   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jun 16, 1:09pm  

We'll have to get rid of Cocaine Mitch and Cross Dresser Lindsey if we ever want that to stop.
6   KgK one   2020 Jun 17, 9:01pm  

Some sort of h1b will live. Us education doesn't produce enough smart people, they product athletes.

Edison , and bulk of scientist are from other countries. Bulk of invention and creativity is done by immegrants. That's how us keeps edge, by importing smart people and selling product they make back to their own countries.
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 17, 10:25pm  

KgK one says
Some sort of h1b will live. Us education doesn't produce enough smart people, they product athletes.


Great, let's shut all our doors to the vast number of foreigners pounding down our doors at every University from MIT to Stanford to Technical College of Upper Sandusky to study STEM.

No foreigners are pounding down the doors to Mumbai Very Most Excellent Technical School or Lucky 88 Dragon Computing Machine School of Shanghai.

The main problem with K-12 is the dumbing down because of our insistence on equality. In most schools around the world, if you fall down after Algebra, everyone else moves on. They don't allow half the class to wait months until the dummies grasp the square of the hypotenuse.

KgK one says
Edison


Edison was born in the USA, just like Eli Whitney (Cotton Gin), Sam Colt (Interchangeable Machined Parts), Henry Ford (Mass Produced Vehicles), Gene Krantz (Apollo Program), Chuck Peddle (6502 Processor in first microcomputers), Bill Mensch (same), Percy Spencer (microwave ovens), and Wozniak (Actual Design of Apple).

Everybody that knows anything about the IT industry knows 90% of H1Bs education and experience consists of "Windows 2000 for Dummies". They are hired because they are cheap, not good. When they run into a problem, they call Cousin Habib in Karachi who owns a computer repair / cell phone accessories booth in the Maandi.

Boeing's failure with the 787 and then Starliner proves what happens when you rely on H1Bs for anything more than basic tech support.
10   just_passing_through   2020 Jun 22, 1:16pm  

As I suspected, this was discussed in my standup meeting this morning. I just listened. My peers are kind of freaking out about what'll happen with the spin off company. Also aren't sure if this apply to them or only new applicants.
12   Patrick   2020 Jun 22, 6:05pm  

FuckCCP89 says
Trump to Halt Foreign Visa Worker Programs to Free Up 600K U.S. Jobs for Americans


This is EVERYTHING.

Jobs for Americans.

Not for illegals.

Not for Chinese.

Not for Indian H1B's.

For Americans.
13   just_passing_through   2020 Jun 22, 6:34pm  

Yeah, that was going around at work a couple of hours ago too haha... Doesn't look like it'll affect anyone I work with:

Sec. 3. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 2 of this proclamation shall apply only to any alien who:

(i) is outside the United States on the effective date of this proclamation;

(ii) does not have a nonimmigrant visa that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation; and

(iii) does not have an official travel document other than a visa (such as a transportation letter, an appropriate boarding foil, or an advance parole document) that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation or issued on any date thereafter that permits him or her to travel to the United States and seek entry or admission.
14   ignoreme   2020 Jun 22, 7:12pm  

KgK one says
Some sort of h1b will live. Us education doesn't produce enough smart people, they product athletes


Yeah the list of Indian inventors is endless. That’s why when you go there the streets are filled with amazing inventions Athletic Americans can only dream of created by the brilliantly educated Indian ppl.

Most Indians I work with can’t manage to QA my code, let alone actually come up with their own shit.
15   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 22, 7:30pm  

Everybody at work liked that move. Even some former H1B holders who are citizens now. Funny how the perspective changes.
16   EBGuy   2020 Jun 22, 7:55pm  

Epic thread from Eric Weinstein (the great NSF STEM conspiracy has been his hobby horse for a couple of decades).
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1275207997958975488

EDIT: Here's Weinstein's original paper on the topic. What a mensch!
How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers (PDF Alert!)
17   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 29, 11:47am  

We lost a millionaire! Because racism!

18   Patrick   2022 Feb 16, 10:54am  

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/14/republicans-join-democrats-import-h-2b-visas/?source=patrick.net


A group of Senate Republicans has joined Senate Democrats to demand President Joe Biden import more H-2B foreign visa workers to take working-class, blue-collar American jobs.

On Monday, 17 Senate Republicans signed a letter with 17 Senate Democrats that urges Biden to “release the maximum allowable number of additional” H-2B foreign visa workers to inflate the labor market despite more than 12 million Americans remaining jobless, though all want full-time employment.

The senators also asked Biden to speed up the process so U.S. employers could get foreign visa workers quicker into blue-collar American jobs, often in construction, landscaping, the tourism industry, and other occupations.

“Without meaningful H-2B cap relief, many seasonal businesses will be forced to scale back operations, cancel or default on contracts, lay off full-time U.S. workers, and, in some cases, close operations completely,” the senators wrote.

The 17 Republicans who signed the letter are:

Kevin Cramer (R-ND)
Mike Rounds (R-SD)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
James Risch (R-ID)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Cynthia Lummis (R-WY)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
John Thune (R-SD)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Rand Paul (R-KY)
John Barrasso (R-WY)
Tim Scott (R-SC)


WTF are they doing?
19   clambo   2022 Feb 16, 1:32pm  

H1B visa workers are scabs, taking jobs away from American workers.
Scumbag overlords hire them to save money and fuck over American workers.
The system sucks, is abused, and all H1B workers should be sent to their respective hellhole TFCs (totally fucked countries).
20   Bd6r   2022 Feb 16, 1:34pm  

Patrick says
WTF are they doing?

bowing to their corporate overlords. Currently labor has some negotiating powers, but after importing a few hundred thousand workers it will go away.
21   Bd6r   2022 Feb 16, 1:41pm  

HunterTits says
Yes, tech salaries have been soaring these past four months.

I have direct hires (senior engineers) who make as much as I did as a Staff engineer a few months ago.

I see the same in biotech and pharma. Easier to get jobs and pay is going up.
22   KgK one   2022 Feb 16, 1:41pm  

Issue is they can't find Americans to do these low paying jobs.
Instead of illegals who didn't go thru health n background check, these might be better option.

Americans don't want to do them, specially with all the money u can make thru welfare. Why the f would u work n make less money than, get more thru welfare.
23   mell   2022 Feb 16, 1:42pm  

HunterTits says
Bd6r says
bowing to their corporate overlords. Currently labor has some negotiating powers, but after importing a few hundred thousand workers it will go away.


Yes, tech salaries have been soaring these past four months.

I have direct hires (senior engineers) who make as much as I did as a Staff engineer a few months ago.


Yep can confirm as lead that lead or very senior techs are closing in on their managers salaries. Supply and demand.
24   Bd6r   2022 Feb 16, 1:42pm  

KgK one says
Issue is they can't find Americans to do these low paying jobs.

Raise salaries and workers will appear. Of course, less money will be available for Big Business owner yachts!!!
25   gabbar   2022 Feb 16, 3:15pm  

Fact is H1B will not end just because people want it to when corporations want H1B.
26   gabbar   2022 Feb 16, 3:16pm  

Patrick says
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/14/republicans-join-democrats-import-h-2b-visas/?source=patrick.net


A group of Senate Republicans has joined Senate Democrats to demand President Joe Biden import more H-2B foreign visa workers to take working-class, blue-collar American jobs.

On Monday, 17 Senate Republicans signed a letter with 17 Senate Democrats that urges Biden to “release the maximum allowable number of additional” H-2B foreign visa workers to inflate the labor market despite more than 12 million Americans remaining jobless, though all want full-time employment.

The senators also asked Biden to speed up the process so U.S. employers could get foreign visa workers quicker into blue-collar American jobs, often in construction, landscaping, the tourism industry, and other occupations...


Republicans are no better than Democrats.
27   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Feb 16, 5:23pm  

These are all corporate sell out RINO's, yes they are replacing Americans. They don't give a fuck, money from corporations makes their life comfortable, they don't care that they are fucking everyone else over in the process. They are fucking fags.
28   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Feb 16, 7:21pm  

HunterTits says
Translation: I see the writing on the wall and I can't go to VCs with my slide deck full of how we'd leverage H1-B workers anymore.


Boy those are still very common. Even I see those and think to myself… wtf is this?
29   gabbar   2022 Feb 17, 3:36am  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
These are all corporate sell out RINO's, yes they are replacing Americans. They don't give a fuck, money from corporations makes their life comfortable, they don't care that they are fucking everyone else over in the process. They are fucking fags.


This has been going on for at least 3 decades, when will it stop? Never? Is it all about money, all the time?
30   Patrick   2023 May 16, 2:44pm  

https://www.leefang.com/p/big-tech-resumed-hiring-foreign-workers?publication_id=1239256&post_id=121722245&isFreemail=true


Big Tech Resumed Hiring Foreign Workers Just Weeks After Layoffs

New disclosures released yesterday show Google, Amazon, Facebook, and other firms requesting foreign worker H-1B visas this year.
31   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 May 16, 3:17pm  

gabbar says

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
These are all corporate sell out RINO's, yes they are replacing Americans. They don't give a fuck, money from corporations makes their life comfortable, they don't care that they are fucking everyone else over in the process. They are fucking fags.


This has been going on for at least 3 decades, when will it stop? Never? Is it all about money, all the time?


those people don’t give fucks about anything else.

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