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Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge


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2020 Jul 1, 5:40pm   795 views  17 comments

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There are six crucial pieces of information — six facts — that have been largely omitted from discussion on the Chauvin’s conduct. Taken together, they likely exonerate the officer of a murder charge. Rather than indicating illegal and excessive force, they instead show an officer who rigidly followed the procedures deemed appropriate by the Minneapolis Police Department (MPD). The evidence points to the MPD and the local political establishment, rather than the individual officer, as ultimately responsible for George Floyd’s death.

These six facts are as follows:

George Floyd was experiencing cardiopulmonary and psychological distress minutes before he was placed on the ground, let alone had a knee to his neck.
The Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) allows the use of neck restraint on suspects who actively resist arrest, and George Floyd actively resisted arrest on two occasions, including immediately prior to neck restraint being used.
The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExDS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExDS suspects may die irrespective of force involved. The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExDS.
Restraining the suspect on his or her abdomen (prone restraint) is a common tactic in ExDS situations, and the white paper used by the MPD instructs the officers to control the suspect until paramedics arrive.
Floyd’s autopsy revealed a potentially lethal concoction of drugs — not just a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl, but also methamphetamine. Together with his history of drug abuse and two serious heart conditions, Floyd’s condition was exceptionally and unusually fragile.
Chauvin’s neck restraint is unlikely to have exerted a dangerous amount of force to Floyd’s neck. Floyd is shown on video able to lift his head and neck, and a robust study on double-knee restraints showed a median force exertion of approximately approximately 105lbs.

https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

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1   Onvacation   2020 Jul 1, 5:49pm  

"Hands up, don't shoot!"

The war is not over.
2   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2020 Jul 1, 5:57pm  

Of course he will, he's a registered Democrat.
3   GNL   2020 Jul 1, 5:58pm  

Oh shit, get your popcorn and pop gun ready if he's found anything less than quilty of murder.
4   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jul 1, 6:23pm  

WineHorror1 says
Oh shit, get your popcorn and pop gun ready if he's found anything less than quilty of murder.


Same things with cop accused of using deadly force on the Atlanta Drunk who stole the taser.
5   Ceffer   2020 Jul 1, 6:35pm  

The facts don't matter. What matters is that Floyd was used as a successful flash point for the prearranged flash mobs to act out. The viruses of incitation and conflagration were successful.
6   PeopleUnited   2020 Jul 1, 6:47pm  

Ceffer says
The facts don't matter. What matters is that Floyd was used as a successful flash point for the prearranged flash mobs to act out. The viruses of incitation and conflagration were successful.


To the snowflake generation facts don’t matter. Truth is treason in the empire of lies. Only two genders? That is preposterous. Black people know how to carry ID and register to vote? That’s ridiculous. Abortion is murder? Now that is crazy.

But when the snowflakes realize that their beliefs are not supported by the facts, it will be TDS on meth and steroids. Keith Ellison has overcharged and he knows it and when the officers are acquitted the cities will burn, exactly as intended by the Marxist Democrat “critical theorists”.
7   just_passing_through   2020 Jul 1, 6:58pm  

I like this doc and he disagrees:

www.youtube.com/embed/xRoqSyIi-98

However, I too think some (or all) of the blame goes to MPD. I think they've used the knee-neck restraint some 40 times in recent years? They are definitely trained to do that.

Pretty goddamn long time to have your knee on a neck though.
8   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 1, 7:55pm  

just_dregalicious says
I think they've used the knee-neck restraint some 40 times in recent years? They are definitely trained to do that.

Pretty goddamn long time to have your knee on a neck though.


There was a video from a jiu jitsu instructor explaining how that kind of restraint can be kept for a long time w/o being deadly for a healthy person. He even let his colleague to hold him in such restraint for a long time while filming. Lost his job for making the video, btw.
9   just_passing_through   2020 Jul 1, 8:02pm  

Eric Holder says
There was a video from a jiu jitsu instructor explaining how that kind of restraint can be kept for a long time w/o being deadly for a healthy person. He even let his colleague to hold him in such restraint for a long time while filming. Lost his job for making the video, btw.


Interesting... Well, I'm pretty clueless about this actually.
10   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Jul 1, 8:15pm  

That 16 year old black kid who got shut up in the CHOP zone and died had carjacked the vehicle that took 300 rounds. See a pattern here?
11   just_passing_through   2020 Jul 1, 8:17pm  

300 rounds? Wow! Inside the CHOP zone?
12   Ceffer   2020 Jul 1, 10:39pm  

just_adhom_preaching says
300 rounds? Wow! Inside the CHOP zone?


Yes. The NYT, WaPo, and the other organs of fake news have now designated anything less than 600 rounds is still a peaceful protest.
13   ignoreme   2020 Jul 2, 1:05pm  

Ceffer says
600 rounds is still a peaceful protest.


600+ is still mostly peaceful
14   RWSGFY   2020 Jul 2, 1:06pm  

ignoreme says
Ceffer says
600 rounds is still a peaceful protest.


600+ is still mostly peaceful


Anything below 1000 is gtg.
15   GNL   2020 Jul 2, 1:35pm  

I hope he's found not guilty.
16   WookieMan   2020 Jul 2, 1:38pm  

It doesn't matter. Guilty or not. There's going to be many other one off, faux outrage events between now and the election. There likely won't be a trial that comes to completion in this case before the election. This one is water under the bridge and I'd bet good money there will be a bigger event coming soon. We'll see.
17   Karloff   2020 Jul 2, 1:41pm  

The hollow-point of peace.

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