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If anything, Mainland China (PRC) and our current leftism in the USA, seem to converge in practice


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2020 Jul 6, 3:45pm   823 views  10 comments

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All right, here's an interesting story, involving not some political maneuvering but something as ordinary as martial arts styles ... Mixed Martial Arts (an amalgam of Brazilian Jujitsu, western boxing, Thai kickboxing, and just about everything else under the sun) vs Tai Chi.

A mainland Chinese MMA fighter, Xu Xiaodong, easily clocks a mainland Chinese Tai Chi Instructor/Master within seconds.

www.youtube.com/embed/Men_s4V5FIg

And then eventually, gets blacklisted by the govt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong

Excerpt: "After the fight went viral, there was significant blowback on social media where he was accused of disparaging Chinese culture and his family received death threats. Beverage tycoon Chen Sheng offered over a million US dollars to any traditional tai chi fighter who could beat him. Police stopped a fight against another self-proclaimed tai chi master, Ma Baoguo, and Xu was banned for organising tournaments at his gym. Xu continued to fight self-proclaimed tai chi masters.

Xu was sued in 2019 for calling tai chi "grandmaster" Chen Xiaowang a fraud, and the Chinese court ordered him to pay Chen approximately US$60,000 in damages and to apologize for seven consecutive days on social media. Additionally, his social credit rating was lowered to the point where he could not rent, own property, stay in certain hotels, travel on high speed rail or buy plane tickets. The restrictions were lifted after he paid US$40,000 in both legal fees and the cost of placing the apology."

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1   🎂 Rin   2020 Jul 6, 3:48pm  

Seriously, is this the kind of society you want to live in, where the organizer of grassroots Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) could do time (a/o lose his career) for poking fun of someone's martial art's skills?
2   theoakman   2020 Jul 6, 4:30pm  

Bruce Lee did the same thing in the 70s. He said that tradition was backwards thinking and found ways to expose just about every traditional martial arts stance and technique. I remember this mma guy doing this a few years ago. I saw it on HBO:

www.youtube.com/embed/LZ6j0i0LxNo
3   theoakman   2020 Jul 6, 4:31pm  

There was another video of this fake old guy who had some "mysterious power to fend off 20 guys at once without making contact with them" battle. He gets clocked in the face once and is like "oh shit, he really hit me"

www.youtube.com/embed/gEDaCIDvj6I
4   🎂 Rin   2020 Jul 6, 4:35pm  

theoakman says
He said that tradition was backwards thinking


Here's the thing, a person needs to practice a set of skills (or techniques) until he's mastered the motor mechanics, so that it's second nature.

Then afterwards, he needs to diverge and learn other things. This is in effect, the true path of the learner.

If that person, however, just bounces around from program to program, learning a little here and there, he goes nowhere. I think the hard nosed easterners tend to label anyone who isn't a disciple, as this sort of dilettante.
5   Shaman   2020 Jul 6, 4:45pm  

Seen any of these “China is great and Had amazing soldiers In history!” Type movies? I watched (most of) this one about a Great Wall and these hordes of inhuman monsters assaulting it. It was one of the more ridiculous Movies I’ve ever seen. The plot was basic, and any grace notes of character development fell absolutely flat. The point was that China had amazing warriors.
That was pretty much it.
6   mell   2020 Jul 6, 7:19pm  

Tai chi is not a fighting martial art though, maybe a shaolin monk trained in kung fu would be a more suitable opponent. Still of course mma is the most practical of all.
7   🎂 Rin   2020 Jul 6, 8:56pm  

mell says
Tai chi is not a fighting martial art though


Yes, it's an energy and fitness enhancing system, much like yoga. But here's the thing, would a Tai Chi & Hatha yoga adept, with added training in MMA (Jujitsu, etc), be able to outlast his opponent?

I know of such a person and yes, he's able to beat the Jujitsu types because he can wait it out, for a long time, wearing out his opponent, before going in for the final take down.
8   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 7, 11:15am  

Tai-chi, shmai-chi, mma, shmma...

www.youtube.com/embed/kQKrmDLvijo
9   🎂 Rin   2020 Jul 8, 6:45pm  

Eric Holder says
Tai-chi, shmai-chi, mma, shmma...


The guy in Raiders got it wrong, you need Christian Bale's "Gun Kata" where you combine martial arts with a glock at point blank ...


www.youtube.com/embed/Qz5PwheNZvQ
10   mell   2020 Jul 8, 6:57pm  

Good movie.

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