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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 6, 9:46pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 6, 9:46pm
Social construct! :P
But yeah, different groups of humans who are now nearly identical genetically do have different alleles that one can target.
This comes up a lot when treating people medically. Also genders too. For a long long time drug trials didn't test women. They were just considered 'little men'.
Some of the bioinformatics people I've worked with are pissed because the 'draft human genome' is made from several caucasians. It's not racism it's just how it panned out. White Western countries did the work.
But yeah, different groups of humans who are now nearly identical genetically do have different alleles that one can target.
This comes up a lot when treating people medically. Also genders too. For a long long time drug trials didn't test women. They were just considered 'little men'.
Some of the bioinformatics people I've worked with are pissed because the 'draft human genome' is made from several caucasians. It's not racism it's just how it panned out. White Western countries did the work.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 6, 9:50pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 6, 9:50pm
I think it might be a bit clearer re: the race thing if the other humans that used to live with us were still around.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 18, 6:40pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 18, 6:40pm
Was thinking about this comment last night right before I passed out. The thing about race Pat is that it IS a social construct. I think what you are looking for is ethnicity. That isn't a social construct.
There are groups of people running around with their own distinct genetic traits tuned for wherever their ancestors lived/live, their lifestyles etc.,. Africa where nearly ALL of the genetic diversity exists, well I wouldn't be surprised if there is 1000s of ethnicities. Maybe a hundred in India. Soon to be only one (Han) in China etc.,
There are groups of people running around with their own distinct genetic traits tuned for wherever their ancestors lived/live, their lifestyles etc.,. Africa where nearly ALL of the genetic diversity exists, well I wouldn't be surprised if there is 1000s of ethnicities. Maybe a hundred in India. Soon to be only one (Han) in China etc.,
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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 18, 7:01pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 18, 7:01pm
Article you might like. Touches on the topic you posted:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3124377/
Scientists are more interested in ethno-geography. To me that's ethnicity even though there are a ton of (non-scientific) websites that try to distinguish between the two in lazy non-scientific ways. Hell so does the US census haha!
In modern times ethnicity is becoming a genetic wash though in lots of places. For instance there are a lot of Hispanics who are mostly derived from European stock.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3124377/
Scientists are more interested in ethno-geography. To me that's ethnicity even though there are a ton of (non-scientific) websites that try to distinguish between the two in lazy non-scientific ways. Hell so does the US census haha!
In modern times ethnicity is becoming a genetic wash though in lots of places. For instance there are a lot of Hispanics who are mostly derived from European stock.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 18, 7:07pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 18, 7:07pm
A quote from it:
"Race versus ‘Genetic Ancestry’
Some of the medical geneticists we interviewed were enthusiastic about the EIGENSTRAT program as the data-organizing tool they chose because it also allowed them to avoid the use of socio-cultural categories like race. In their view, Eigenstrat allowed them to account for genetic differences in their analyses, while race categories—which they viewed as socio-cultural concepts—were inappropriate for their genetic analyses:
For my personal conception, race is a social term. It’s applied by people in a society, and that’s just how they distinguish people …. But … that’s not how I phenotype [my patients] or the participants in studies."
"Race versus ‘Genetic Ancestry’
Some of the medical geneticists we interviewed were enthusiastic about the EIGENSTRAT program as the data-organizing tool they chose because it also allowed them to avoid the use of socio-cultural categories like race. In their view, Eigenstrat allowed them to account for genetic differences in their analyses, while race categories—which they viewed as socio-cultural concepts—were inappropriate for their genetic analyses:
For my personal conception, race is a social term. It’s applied by people in a society, and that’s just how they distinguish people …. But … that’s not how I phenotype [my patients] or the participants in studies."
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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 19, 8:29am
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 19, 8:29am
Pffft...
Everyone knows the Igbos and Fulanis are already planning to take out Soros!
His fate will be worse than the Abyssinians.
Everyone knows the Igbos and Fulanis are already planning to take out Soros!
His fate will be worse than the Abyssinians.
One could also target specific ethnic subgroups, which are obviously also real. The more homogeneous they group, they more precisely targeted they could be. The Amish and Ashkenazi Jews are both extremely inbred and homogeneous and so could be selectively infected.
In the limit, individuals could be murdered with custom viruses which affect only them, with everyone else merely carrying it.
But on a happier note, cancer has been cured in a number of people by viral infections that selectively infected the cancerous cells, totally by accident. If the technology improves, it might become possible to tailor-make viruses to infect specific tumors.