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The Leftoids will start eating themselves over these politbureau style government controls. With the lamestream media fanning the flames of hate it is getting increasingly difficult to exercise by yourself outdoors in SF or pick up wine or food outside without being sneered at. Fuck everyone! lol

Feel for you mell... In fact, I will say a prayer.

just_adhom_preaching says

Feel for you mell... In fact, I will say a prayer.

Thx I hope this 2nd wave is over soon, maybe 4-8 weeks max. def before flu season starts or we may have to lockdown to not overload hospitals. So in that way it's good that the youngsters aren't distancing and getting it over with and bringing us closer towards herd immunity. We can't be that far behind Europe, there was only a month or two lag. I wil need to be tested soon anyways (no choice) and hope it's not a botched test and they'll quarantine me and squash my travel plans. Also ordered N95 masks for airport/plane rides. Doing my part but not putting a mask on outside.

mell says

youngsters aren't distancing and getting it over with

I've had my fingers crossed for this as well.

mell says

I wil need to be tested soon anyways

I'm back to thinking I DID have the roni rona back in mid-January but my antibody test was negative 4 months later. I'm sure you know all of this already but we basically have two arms of the immune system:

1. Tactical smart weapons (antibody mediated response)
2. Inflammation and Pacmans (macrophages etc)

We're learning that a quite significant portion of the population is only responding via #2. Which sucks because that's more likely to 'kill yer self', if you know what I mean. Plus little to no antibodies. Little to no herd immunity.

However, if true and I myself get it again there will be some antibody response and it won't be so bad. I've mentioned before (if I had it) it was similar to swine flu (for me) but not quite as bad. The symptoms I had (loss of smell, weird feeling in my lungs like I was going to get a dreaded dry cough, fever, body ache, persistent fatigue) all correlate with a #2 response. No sinus issues at all which I get with flu, colds, allergies, sinus pneumonia at all which I usually get some wild guess of 90% of the time due to mild CF. I've never ever lost my sense of smell. In fact, I think I'm back to being a super-smeller.

There are now some genetic markers for 'how bad it might be' for you. We updated our genetic report to include these last week at my day job.

I'll be so glad when the elections cure COVID once in for all, and everybody will be crowing and taking credit for the death of the manufactured fiction-demic, while blaming their opponents for the pile of corpses.

just_adhom_preaching says

mell says

youngsters aren't distancing and getting it over with

I've had my fingers crossed for this as well.

mell says

I wil need to be tested soon anyways

I'm back to thinking I DID have the roni rona back in mid-January but my antibody test was negative 4 months later. I'm sure you know all of this already but we basically have two arms of the immune system:

1. Tactical smart weapons (antibody mediated response)
2. Inflammation and Pacmans (macrophages etc)

We're learning that a quite significant portion of the population is only responding via #2. Which sucks because that's more likely to 'kill yer self', if you know what I mean. Plus little to no antibodies. Little to no herd immunity.

However, if true and I myself get it again there will be some antibody response an...

I've had a long bout of cfs for almost 5 years, worst years of my life. Cause/onset could have been H1N1 or EBV or anything else. It was also very atypical, no typical cold/flu symptoms, no fever or low grade only, but chest pain and some shortness of breath and even vertigo/dizziness and lasted 4-6 weeks. I eventually self therapied with something called Macrophage acticating factor (MAF) to stimulate them. It was a main component for recovery but also caused inflammation (necessarily) and I wonder if I didn't/don't have a significant macrophage response and therefore am less susceptible to severe Rona. I mean I did martial arts and other group gym classes before everything closed, I can't imagine that I haven't been exposed yet. Will find out soon. I'm interested in finding out more about genetic markers, currently I only know that blood type 0 is least susceptible and A most, but they don't exactly know why.

just_adhom_preaching says

Little to no herd immunity.

I was wrong about that. You can still get t-cell immunity. Learned today that only about 20% of confirmed rona virus patients in Sweden produce detectable antibodies. They are estimating that about 30% of that population does have t-cell immunity though which might last up to 10 years. Still others they suspect were immune prior to the pandemic.

So t-cells go after and kill infected cells rather than directly attacking the virus. Antibody immunity (that arm of the immune system) tends to wear out and stop working as we age. So old people are usually using the t-cells, macrophage etc., which is more damaging and just wipes you out. Would explain the higher death rate.

Side note: That fact about older peoples immune systems is related to how auto-immune diseases crop up as we age. Rheumatoid arthritis etc.