2020 Jul 22, 5:40pm
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so it's kind of hard to keep up withlike we were just talking about brownfragility but I've been reading thisliterature forever I don't know thatI've run into the term brown fragilityuntil I saw it on Twitter like threeweeks ago and now people are doingcorporate trainings in it that's fast soit was already that a white HR typeperson could be teaching a class calledbrown fragility well they would reallyhave to interrogate themselvesdo a lot of explaining and probably handthe role a very expensive you knowwell-paid roll-off to a brown personactually yeah is this one of the thingsright is it's all about like RobynD'Angelo sells herself as a white personwho's talking down to other I meantalking to other white people and herewhat you'd have to do and so this isreally common actually in post-colonialtheory and in fact I bet you is prettycommon across the board like you'veprobably seen like the kula expose ofPeggy McIntosh who was the whiteprivilege lady in 1989 and it's like shewas making like four hundred thousanddollars a year and like living in agated community or something and it'slike hmm was a post-colonial theory youhave these people like Gary Spivak whowere the kind of cornerstone theoristsand it's like hilarious I looked this upso Gayatri Spivak was a Brahmin casteand how much you know about HinduHinduism in that the caste system butBrahman is priests its highest thethey're literally considered to besomething close to intermediariesbetween God and in humanity and so it'slike they're the highest caste peoplethey're the least oppressed mostprivileged people in India where youhave a caste system that really properlyoppresses people as you get down theladder and so she comes and she's now ohI'm oppressed I'm oppressed I'm fromIndia colonialism you know blah blahblah and maybe she has a point but thenit's like I found this thing where she'stalking about herself and the being himshe gets called out for being in theBrahmin caste and she's like yeah but Iwas in a particular part of a particularsect within the Brahmin caste isoppressed among Brahmins and it's likewhole our bed so what you run into islike this serious like upper-middleclass almost upper class or in this caseliterally upper caste people who aretrying to manipulate oppression orclaims to oppression that are very likekind of systemic and cooked up to theirown advantage so that they can thenempower themselves right you're notseeing your average black lives matterblack dude on the street of Fergusonall of a sudden becoming empowered hereyou're seeing these these black hustlerswho have degrees from like Columbiayou know they're like oh I'm gonnabasically become your ruler now and ifyou don't speak the right way Kanye Westyou're no longer blackthat's what Tana has e-coat said abouthim anyway and they burn I mean DeRay islike one of the most progressive dudesout there and he said well I don't knowabout some of this is getting pretty farwith the riots or something like thatand they were like are you really youknow I don't know if you're really blackbla bla bla that's not an authenticblack voice and burning him down cancelhim and so it's like you have these kindof like super elite fancy languagepeople that are like pretending theywere oppressed and leveraging it yeah inkind of like a bureaucratic career moveto control everybody else and I mean Iknow you're not supposed to have blackfriends anymorebut one of my black friends I wastalking to he's a Christian by the wayhe's one of your people you probablyknow him you know you're good we alltalk house yeah I mean it's like like Iwas talking to an Australian the otherday and I was like what you probablyknow each other you're on an island andthey said that the islands very big andI had no idea I mean you look at the mapand it's like yeah I mean like what likeWest Virginia I'm just kidding it'sactually almost as I think it's as bigas or bigger than the United States it'sreally close it's huge it's like it'salmost as big as the US it's huge asthree time zones in it there's like theUnited States I've literally been thereand I all we care about it they payattention to the size of it went overthere all the thing in Australia is theyall live on the coast so like 90% of itdoesn't even count he right there thepoint is that they all know each otherbecause they're on an island and that'show it worksand you guys all know each other so I'mtalking to my my Christian black friendwhich I know we're not supposed to havethose anymore we're notwhite you learn a lot to have black wellno no okay that's one directional I'mokay with Christian friends and I keepgetting this static from Christianshanging out with like other Christianshanging out with atheist is apparently aproblem so you guys got to do better dothe work I mean I know I've shaved myhorns down and everythingit's cool but no seriously I'm talkingto this guy and he's like he grew up inlike seriously like the ghetto and he'slike it's like this woke thing isforcing us to trade one set of mastersfor another and I was like bro I mean itis it is you have to speak the way theysay you speak you have to represent theso-called authentic black experience theway they say it is or else you don'thave your own voice and it's like I meanthat's messed up period that makes foryou guys let me flex my theology againit makes no sense I mean I readEphesians I know what's in there it'slike I it's I think it's Ephesians Iread that book you guys have and ittalks about you know neither Jew norGreek and you know this whole thing allright one in Christ Jesus it seems tomake sense you know that your identityif you're a Christian for example isthat you are Christian and that didwrite Islam actually does this rightthat they think that race is not allowedlike race is not okay you're either inthe faith or you're not and Christianityhas the same idea that you're allbrothers and sisters in Christof course the secular world has less ofthat kind of superordinate identityunification kind of thing and this ofcourse has been a bit of a problem butwe could all be American we could all beyou know global citizens we could all belots of things that we could identify wecould all be human beings you know thereare a lot of things that we could stillunify under in this fracturing into twoidentity groups who then have to behaveauthentically or be canceled is it's avery different thing and it's being ledby elites who can't have time to go toHarvard Law and money and resources goto Harvard Law and learn all the fancylanguage and get indoctrinated atColumbia for four six eight twelve yearsand then it's really kind of funny it'sjust I don't see how it I can't speakfor people but I can't see how it speaksfor people either hmm so just to clarifywhenever you say black are youcapitalizing that okay this guy nobecause he's against woke right so ifyou're against whoa that's lower thenyou can't that's lower case becauseat what Paul Hannah brown you're notproject lady she tweeted it she said thething and you're not supposed to save athing and then she deleted the tweetbecause she found out real fast shewasn't supposed to say the thing thatthere's a difference between politicallyblack and racially black they'redifferent things and guess which one iscorrect yeah you have to be politicallyblack even if you are black it's notgood enough yeah you know if you're notdown with if you go like the black livesmatter homepage and go to about and likewhat we believe is on there you shouldread that though and it's like I meanthis is a bunch of videos the blackpeople reading through it and like whais this no it's like they're likecomrades we're gonna disrupt you andcomprehend like don't believe in itStreet and the real in the real blackculture comrade yeah I know oh wowyeah I'm not mine - the Russian back youknow the sampling from the Russian youknow Imperial music was is the best partof that song yeah it's that classicalbum straight out of Russia[Music][Laughter]yeah it's messed up man it is messed upso no that's actually kora though dailycritical race Theory so kimberlécrenshaw and bell hooks kemberlyCrenshaw is the creator ofintersectionality bell hooks is the onewho really dragged this stuff intoeducation with the book teaching totransgress and they had this whole blackfeminist power thing and that's where itactually does come from I'm notexaggerating it is black power thiswhole thing about it that was there is afundamental difference between thestatement I am black and I am a personwho happens to be black and then it'smore productive politically it's moreimportant for your identity to embracethe identity first I am capital B blackthing but that's black power that'sblack liberation politics is what itactually is that's what actually cameout of the the so called new left that'sHerbert markussiHerbert mercury so repressive tolerancein 1965 we get race riots 1967 1968following his arguments so there's not abig surprise that this happenednews of people drawing not off of MartinLuther King who they kind of claim asbeing bad now because he's whitepeople's favorite black person and thenthey instead you know site off ofMalcolm X and they probably didn'treally what happened to him in the endwhen he decided his own movement was abit radical and hmm we'll just leavethat cliffhanger for people who want togoogle it what happened there yeah wikipediaand so people are like oh but maybe thatconnections not real well workingstraight underneath Herbert Marcuse ERwith Herbert Mercutio was Angela Davisand Angela Davis was one of the peoplewho it was those instrumentals theinstruction of people like bell hookskimberlé crenshawsomewhat Derrick Bell Eber McKenzie andhis book stamps from the beginning whichis now rocking all the bestseller listsand he's how to be anti-racistguy is his other much more rockin itbook right now he profiles just ahandful of black Americans and one ofthe profiles he does is of Angela Davisshe worked with mark Russo this is blackpower and you can actually read that inkimberlé crenshaw is mapping the marginswhere she explicitly says that fact thesame paper that says there's adifference between I am black and I am aperson who happens to be black and theidentity first model is better foridentity politics well she actually saysin that paper at the beginning it'scalled mapping the margins you say wellokay what are the margins and you startreading it and it says it will you knowit's at the margins of radical feminismand black liberation politics andding-dong there's your Angela Davisding-dong there's your Herbert Marcuseax there's your link to this extremeradical new left activism they turnedviolent in the late 60s and then decidedto stop being violent going to groundand fill in university departments withtheir activists this is actually whatthey did so welcome to now the tree hasbeen planted in the fruit are beingconsumed very widely yeah that's a whilethis thing to me about all this is it'sso patently a intellectually non diversemovement they just they pepper it withpeople of different skin colors but youhave to think exactly like and it'sit is anti diversity as you can get Imean a lot of that's been that's beenrepealed sorry because you have toengage critically which means you haveto have a critical consciousness whichmeans you have to think about the worldin the same way does that mean Orthodoxwhat's their parallel critical I meanyeah would be it would be lower versionof the word it would be yeah I mean itwould totally be Orthodox criticalconsciousness means that you are able itmay mean it means woke it means you'reable to see the systems of oppressionthat prevent liberation and thus feelthe need for liberation and what is thatproject by the way that I mean that wasthat's an extension I don't want to callthis Marxist because it's not quitealthough it's definitely trying to dothat now a little bit that's anextension of Marx's idea that the poorproletariat hated their lives and didn'tknow it and just needed to be awakenedto the fact that their lives sucked andthen they would have a revolution tooverthrow the society and what happenedwas in the nineteenearly nineteen hundred's and going intothe 1920s and 30s in particular the theFrankfurt School these criticaltheorists came up in the FrankfurtSchool they're also called neo-marxiststhey're you're not supposed to call themcultural Marxists but that's anotherterm for them started to take thoseideas and they said well Marx was wrongit's not about economic oppressionactually that's not the center it'sabout cultural oppression the elites arecausing the proles to want to have theirown oppression to think it's good sothey're looking at like the rise of themiddle class they're looking at the riseof kind of social social democracies inthe reasonable sense where there's asocial safety net not even that likefull-blown welfare state but there'slike functional social services all of asudden things there's like interestingstuff on television and radio that areentertaining people there are sportingevents people can go to and enjoy peopleare generally having a happy lifethere's there's a consumer culture wherethey can go buy products that actuallywork you know that are mass-produced infactories and they always work people'sfood needs are being met so they're allcomfortable well if they're comfortablethey're clearly 95 99 percent of thepopulation is comfortable and happythey're not gonna try to revolt againstthe society that they like they live inand claim to like so you have to wakethem up you have to wake them up andmake sure they know howtheir lives are and that's called givingthem critical consciousness it's calleda consciousness-raising in fact than thefeminists talked about is to make themrealize how our better lives really areand that they have to be that they haveto want to overthrow the society that'smaking their lives bad even though theydon't think their lives are bad whichthey call having a false consciousnessso you can see that as like it is theseparation but knowing your original sinor whatever yeah exactly yeah exactlyit's it's like it's an entire way ofthinking and so when they say diversitythey mean that which promotes that fromdifferent social positions meaningdifferent skin colors differentsexualities and so on when they sayinclusion they mean making sure ourspaces are such that nobody ever feelsoffended or uncomfortable even ifthey're making it up and grifting withit in that space if they have one ofthese identities so you can say thatwhite people take up too much space soyou have to get rid of white people andsegregate even though then they call itdesegregating because they said that thepresence of white people automaticallysegregates it by making black peoplefeel uncomfortable I'm not making thisup it sounds so insane in a month ago ifwe would have done the podcast like amonth ago before all these riots andthings broke out I would have beensaying similar stuff and people wouldhave been like wow that guy's like wayout on the fringe and now it's allhappening and so yeah finally see likeoh this they really that stuff they'vebeen writing down for for 50 years theyactually mean it Wowokay so you're making people woke to thewoke Ness that's right actually it isyou know what I'm trying to do so let melet me do some historical context foryou in 1937 Max Horkheimer wrote a bookhe was in the Frankfurt School and hewrote a book called um criticaluntraditional theory I'm gonna have thatbackwards it might be traditional incritical theory I always have to look itup I'm it's one or the other so it'sabout the two ideas of traditionaltheory and critical theory and that bookspells out the difference between acritical theory which is explanatoryit's what we would think of asphilosophy or science reason logicevidence it'sdetailed explanation of how things workand the various various circumstancesaround it and so on and a criticaltheory instead starts with a normativevision which for them was theneo-marxist belief that society andculture and ideology control the massesand prevent them from wanting to have acommunist revolution and that they needto be liberated from that so it startswith a moral vision and then it seeks tofind explanations called problematics astime has gone on that reveal the truthabout how bad the system is so it seeksto just complain about the system andthen it requires it doesn't advocate itrequires that these things be sociallysocial act socially it I can't say thatword socially actionable so in otherwords you have to do activism on itsbehalf so a critical theory has to meetall three of these criteria it has tohave the liberation versus aproliferation of from oppression versusdomination moral structure it has to beable to identify to make problematicsvisible to people who have falseconsciousness about how how good societyis and then it has to be actionable byactivists all three of those things mustgo in and into the things so when youhear academic people say well we have toworry about praxis PRA X is as opposedto practice which seems like kind of thesame word praxis praxis means that itmeans putting the critical theory intoaction in specific so you have thiswhole very sophisticated very old lineof thinking we use it in our fake papersall the time we have to Wed theory topractice we wrote that I like I don'teven know what it meant I just keptwriting I was like an alien overlord butwhat it means is do you have so you seelike Robyn D'Angelo out there nowand she's like to be an anti-racistmeans that you have to take up alifelong and ongoing commitment to toself-reflection self critique and socialactivism you have to be activelyanti-racist according to our program orit doesn't count so the context there isthat there's traditional theory whichtries to understand a thing and there'sthere's critical theory whichtries to complain about things and dosocial activism to cause people to wantto have a social revolution and I'mtrying to create a critical I'm sorryI'm trying to create a traditionaltheory of critical theory I'm trying toexplain it so that people can understandit there are some elements that doinvolve making its oppressions visiblebecause although I don't really have todo that now because they're doing it forme by you know putting people up pogromsand tearing down statues and settingtargets on fire and saying that's okaybecause whiteness is property I evenretweet somebody today saying that arsonis totally legitimate and we shouldn'thave laws preventing propertydestruction now I'm almost positive thatperson would freak the heck out herhouse fire right I'm just going I'm notsaying don't do it please don't do itbut I'm just saying that that personmight have a slightly differentperspective if you said her house onfire but maybe not because we saw thatstory in The New York Times right didyou see it from Minneapolis where theguy gets held up at gunpoint and thereare two black kids are trying to stealhis car and he calls 9-1-1 and then hefreaks out that he called 9-1-1 and hefreaks out and gives him his keys but hegives them the wrong keys he gives himhis house keys so they can't get intohis car and start it and so they throwhis keys on the ground and they go andthey literally carjacked somebody elseinsteadand then this guy comes back and hewrites this thing and it ends up in theNew York Times saying that he's sorry hecalled the cops and he put thosepeople's lives in danger he just wantedto help if they still want his stuffhe'll be happy to give it to him it'slike something what really long trainit's I mean I think honestly I know I'mdominating the conversation a bit but Ithink honestly we really Thea though Iam you know you would mislead peopleinto faith and I can't have that Iwouldn't want people to have somethingthat means something in their lives thatwould be terrible but this is actuallythe point though is I actually thinkthat people a lot of people don't knowwho they are and they don't know howthings work anymore like maybe we were abit lazy and we haven't learned ourcivics but more importantly we haven'tdug-in to understand who we are as likeenemy who we are as a people like anindividual yeahindividually Who am I what do I standfor why do I stand for my principles sowould like what if somebody calls me aracist my impulse is okay let meevaluate that because I'm a fair andhonest person who can take criticismmaybe I did say something that crossedthe line or do something across the linebut beyond that it doesn't mean anythingright so I checked with myself I sayself you're not racist and I'm good togono it's not quite that simple but ofcourse I reflect upon you can reflectupon the thing and then actuallyconclude no you know life is complicatedyou can also conclude okay I have maybedone some things in the past that wouldbe would be racist or raciallyinsensitive and I have already learnedin many respects to do better about thatand I don't have to obsess about thatand go scrupulosity full scrupulosity onit and so you know there's there's alsoroom for growth and and forgivenessforgiveness of self you're not allowedto forgive yourself for your racism ifyou're white because you're stillcomplicit and in fact that's what RobinAngelo says is one of the things that isthe worst ways of upholding whitesupremacy is by thinking that you get itthinking that you are less racist nowgrown in terms of racism and so it'slike man I think I timed this there aresome papers out there that I would getfor but nobody got time for thiscrackpot stuff no high school used tosay man used to say so you're crazysomeplace else we're all stocked up hereI think that every day Z and this stuffI was reading this book on crowds it's aclassic I can't read the full title nameof the title I just started reading itbut he talks in there about how itdoesn't matter the academic level or theintellectual level of the person andwhen they're in a crowd you could be avery low IQ person up to like a collegeprofessor what a crowd what the peoplein the crowd tend to act on more istheir base care the thing that will makecould make a person not get engaged in acrowd as if where their character is atso you can be a high academic low but ifyou both if your if your character is atthat level that's what's going toI'm out when you're in a crowd and Ifeel like I see that a lot in thismovement they're very academic but whenit comes down to when they get in acrowd it's all you know just actingcrazy they could be the title of anacademic paper you think I'm joking itactually could probably is I mean as youcould then analyze how that's a thingthat mocks them and mock and tries ittries from from the outside to Dintellectualize a movement that'sinherently deeply intellectual with along-standing academic Tricia and oh myI've smelled my fart so many times thatI'm so smart and it's so intelligent Imean I'm smelling my farts this morningand I realized that they are very muchlike watermelon and bubblegum it's Idon't know what people are talking aboutI am buying this oh and do you I dothink though the academics areparticularly susceptible to this for afew reasons some of which are structuraland some of which are personal academicshave I have a norm of not reallycriticizing outside of their areas ofexpertise which is being exploited hereI've seen both people on Twitterreminding academics remember don'tcriticize outside of your disciplinedon't criticize us and it's like theyknow that the backlash is coming theacademic backlash and don't criticize usthough and they also I mean a lot ofacademics and I can't speak for all ofthem it's not true of all of them but alot of academics are pretty introvertedpeople they spend a lot of time withtheir work they are difficult to relateto we used to have math parties when Iwas in math doing my PhD and like a lotof us math people get together and we'dbring our friends or our spouses orwhatever and it's like the whole roomwhich is kind of like segregate and themath people who could talk about mathand then everybody else would make funof us for talking about math and andit's like what we never get together wenever have a chance to just talk aboutstuff we understand with people we spententire lives talking with people whodon't know what we're talking about soin a sense have to be kind of quietabout our work that we're very excitedabout and so there's a feeling whenyou're an academic of being difficultpoliteso become a people-pleaser in socialsettings so you don't want to do thingsupset people right and then there's astructural this besides the academicnorm is actually a structural thing herethat there's no incentives to criticizethe oak stuff if you criticize it you'regonna get called a racist they're gonnathreaten to take to retract your paperthey're going to threaten your degreethey're gonna haul you before adiversity tribunal it's you know wasteyour time your if you get pulled infront of the diversity board yourco-workers like what'd he do you knowit's automatic and so it the costs arereally high and the rewards are even ifyou can get a paper published in it it'shard it's not in your major field it'snot gonna count a lot toward anything sothere are basically no incentive socialfinancial or academic professional tolead people with an academia to want tocriticize what is literally completelydiscrediting academia you have to getlike a metal level incentive which isacademia by the way if you haven'tnoticed academics I know maybe you'renot that but academics might belistening academia is flushing itselfdown the toilet as fast as they can andthere's an incentive now to not haveyour own job completely ruined anddiscredited and turned into some kind ofweird diversity tribunal all the time tostand up against this why you still havea chance because my opinion is actuallythat the academic sector is fried Ithink it's I don't I don't even think itcan recover itself at this point theroad it's like that Lord of the Ringsthing where it's like the quest liesupon the edge of a knife very very but alittle dears I exciting you you fall inthe abyss like that's basically academiaright now it's bad they have financialproblems that are gonna gonna preventthem they're terrified to be calledracists they don't have any incentivesto criticize this stuff except in apopular sphere that can't can barelydefend them and can't pay them so it'sjust a bad situation to be caught in soacademics are pretty much the most goneand I don't know how they get out ofthis mess yeah as while things likediversity tribunal sounds like a reallybad conservative satire that was writtenlike five years agolike some crazy fever dream ofconservatives maybe I write the sequelto or you could write because you thegrievance studies so you got to do yoursequel now like maybe you can wear awhole costume and be like the next RobynD'Angelo but write the next book likethough even more what'swhat's more thanfragile like if I cut my bangs straightacross and diet like pink purple and puton some ugly glasses and like be reallyangry a lot keep my beard and put somelipstick on or somethinggeez I'm gonna get canceled for thatwhite brutality I don't know I'm justfrangible is a word apparently the Royalfertility fungible is a word changeableyeah yeah you can actually you canactually go to corporations and dotraining for them like the wig off orwhatever and you're like well they'reall on their knees like pleading I meanit's truly I think it might be past thepoint though where like something likethe Sokol squared could even have a realimpact because I was reading a papersomebody sent me I was reading it justbefore I got on on the show with youguys and it's about creating madactivism ma D a capital Min fact because same reason is capital Bblack it's an identity and mad meaningcrazy like so it's literally an articleno it's m capital M lowercase ad be likeif they've capitalized it crazy orsomething yeah like capital capital Ccrazy but they're using the word madinstead put them and the credits like Iknow and the point is to just creditpsychiatry as a medical disciplinethat's what the point of so it's likehow do you make fun of this oh I'll tellyou what I would do if I was gonna writefake papers now though I would not writeones they're funny it wouldn't be funnyI would start problematizing their owncore concepts so it starts to fall inhonestly so they go to civil war withthemselves that's the kind of kind ofsatire that we're in ammonia that's theonly probably only way to defeat himright if you can start turning them oneach other and make them all takethey're out well I mean they're alreadydoing that they're really already doingthat I wasn't weeded about that lastnight I did a thread that they're ateach other's throats already were whowas it I don't remember one of theseguys tweeted something about it's likehe's going after like the the queertheory aspects I think of the the blacklives matter thing which is like ourtrans comrades and brothers and sistersand all this stuff on the we must have afeminist orientation so he's like sayingsomething about that I'm like ma'amKirk or a series about to be a war ontwo fronts at the same time because it'sincompatible with queer theory period
diversity tribunal sounds like a reallybad conservative satire that was writtenlike five years agolike some crazy fever dream ofconservatives
I'll tellyou what I would do if I was gonna writefake papers now though I would not writeones that are funny. it wouldn't be funny.I would start problematizing their owncore concepts so it starts to fall in.honestly so they go to civil war withthemselves
the trans activists are just likenot gonna have this so they likeputting the black power fist on thetrans flag and black people are angryand then the trans people are callingthem transphobes so it's already meltingdown
Native Americans owned slaves
Patrick saysNative Americans owned slavesThis should go in your "Reach the mentally enslaved with chalk!" post.
the trans activists are just likenot gonna have this so they likeputting the black power fist on thetrans flag and black people are angryand then the trans people are callingthem transphobes so it's already meltingdownLOL
Patrick saysthe trans activists are just likenot gonna have this so they likeputting the black power fist on thetrans flag and black people are angryand then the trans people are callingthem transphobes so it's already meltingdownLOLThe perfect black power trans flag has already been created!