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1   WookieMan   2020 Aug 5, 1:10pm  

Regardless of WHO and Chinese linkage. Who in their fucking right might would trust some "world" organization? Worldwide, are people just becoming so dumb to actual information that they don't even care to corroborate it? We have people on this very forum saying 90%+ of people should be wearing a mask because 0.7% of the population has an active viral infection that kills only 3.9% of those infected. WTF?

You are more likely to slip in your shower and die than get Covid and die from it. Fuck it, let's shut down our economy.
2   Patrick   2020 Aug 5, 1:25pm  

Here's that github link from the bottom of the graph:

https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/tree/master/csse_covid_19_data
3   Patrick   2020 Aug 5, 1:27pm  

WookieMan says
viral infection that kills only 3.9% of those infected


@WookieMan you might be quoting the "case fatality rate" there, referring to people who have gotten sick enough to see a doctor and become a "case" thereby.

The infection fatality rate is only 0.3%, less than one tenth of the case fatality rate.

That is, only about 0.3% of people who get infected with the virus end up dying from it. The large majority of the infected have very mild symptoms or none at all.
4   Eric Holder   2020 Aug 5, 1:44pm  

WookieMan says
Who in their fucking right might would trust some "world" organization?


... packed to the hilt with some poorly-educated 3rd World "officials", corrupt AF, because SOP in their home countries.
5   WookieMan   2020 Aug 5, 1:52pm  

Patrick says
That is, only about 0.3% of people who get infected with the virus end up dying from it. The large majority of the infected have very mild symptoms or none at all.

I'm just taking the numbers from WorldMeter. Tested positive and deaths. ~1.4% of the US has tested positive. Of that 1.4%, only 3.9% have died. I think my numbers line up with your 0.3% to some extent. Either way the point is the same. There's literally a 1 in 100 chance that you know someone tested positive. That 1 person has a 3.9% chance of dying from Covid. Basically, IF you get Covid, there's "maybe" a 3.9% chance of death. The big issue being you have to be that lucky 1.4 of 100 in even getting Covid in the first place. It's a big hurdle to clear and it's why this entire thing is pure bull shit.
6   Patrick   2020 Aug 5, 2:04pm  

We should thank the Swiss for doing a huge national experiment, kinda by accident:

May 27: OK, everyone STOP taking hydroxychloroquine
June 11: OK, everyone START taking hydroxychloroquine again

And then, we make a graph.

Boom.
7   Patrick   2020 Aug 5, 3:10pm  

If anyone knows any reporters, they should send them the data on Switzerland.

Be nice about it. It will be hard for them to have been that horribly wrong, resulting in so many preventable deaths.
8   prodigy   2020 Aug 5, 3:48pm  

There is a lot of declarations in that article that would require a lot of followup.
A look at the author and his history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill#Post-settlement_life
9   prodigy   2020 Aug 5, 3:51pm  

Hatfiil has a self admitted history of telling whoppers.

"60 Minutes interview
Hatfill's lawyer, Tom Connolly, was featured in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview about the anthrax incidents on March 11, 2007.[18] In the interview Connolly revealed that Hatfill forged a Ph.D. degree certificate: "It is true. It is true that he has puffed on his resume. Absolutely. Forged a diploma. Yes, that's true." He went on to state, "Listen, if puffing on your resume made you the anthrax killer, then half this town should be suspect."
10   prodigy   2020 Aug 5, 3:53pm  

Still, the pattern in that graph has to be explained.
11   Patrick   2020 Aug 5, 5:00pm  

Right, shoot the messenger.

Your life is now much more secure because of this guy whether you like it or not.
12   mell   2020 Aug 5, 5:07pm  

prodigy says
Still, the pattern in that graph has to be explained.


The data is either true or not, the messenger is. irrelevant. That's the beauty of data. Switzerland isn't making shit up.
13   socal2   2020 Aug 5, 5:14pm  

You can see the uptick in deaths at that time using the Google COVID death tracker. Not a huge spike, but you can see it.

14   theoakman   2020 Aug 5, 5:22pm  

Patrick says
WookieMan says
viral infection that kills only 3.9% of those infected


@WookieMan you might be quoting the "case fatality rate" there, referring to people who have gotten sick enough to see a doctor and become a "case" thereby.

The infection fatality rate is only 0.3%, less than one tenth of the case fatality rate.

That is, only about 0.3% of people who get infected with the virus end up dying from it. The large majority of the infected have very mild symptoms or none at all.


Moreover, many people fail to comprehend the fact they don't actually have a .3% chance of dying but much less. For someone in their 20s or 30s with no health issues, it's probably 100 times less than that! That being said, people 80 and above have a 14% chance of dying so they should take precaution. It's insane that the working population is essentially able to fight this off like a cold but being told they can't work to save the people who are on their 20th year of collecting social security. Meanwhile, nothing would be stopping them from sheltering in place other than their own selfishness.
15   Patrick   2020 Aug 5, 5:46pm  

theoakman says
people 80 and above have a 14% chance of dying so they should take precaution. It's insane that the working population is essentially able to fight this off like a cold but being told they can't work to save the people who are on their 20th year of collecting social security. Meanwhile, nothing would be stopping them from sheltering in place other than their own selfishness


There is also the fact that the people running the show tend to be old.
16   Shaman   2020 Aug 6, 6:19am  

theoakman says
It's insane that the working population is essentially able to fight this off like a cold but being told they can't work to save the people who are on their 20th year of collecting social security. Meanwhile, nothing would be stopping them from sheltering in place other than their own selfishness.


And yet 82% of Americans according to a recent Hill/Harris poll would like a nationwide mask mandate.

People are fucking idiots and abject cowards. I have no sympathy whatsoever for such people. They can die of loneliness and starvation in their fucking holes.

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