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How about the Lance Armstrong pill for Covid?


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2020 Aug 9, 2:57pm   974 views  11 comments

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Ok, in this case, it's the Armstrong needle. The doping agent, EPO (Erythropoietin), was not originally designed to cheat the Tour de France.

What EPO does is rapidly increase the red bloods in the body and thus, helps those with compromised oxygenation (ala anemia) or in the case of Covid, weakened hemoglobin binding, if they don't get better with the Zinc/HCQ (or Zinc/Quercetin "The Rin Pill") combo early enough prior to being put on the respirator death sentence.

The idea is that by having more blood cells around the body, the fact that the excessive pulmonary inflammation limits oxygen from reaching the cells, can be balanced by giving the body more resources to deal with the added workload.

Now, here's the kicker, the primary pub med piece on this is from a 3rd world Islamic toilet, Iran ...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32270515/

Seriously, where is this so-called Captain American dream team, according to the detractors on PatNet who keep uttering
'why do you think you're smarter than Dr X, Y, or Z?'

And the Max Plank Institute is giving the weakest endorsement out there ...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200706/Doping-agent-Epo-could-be-effective-against-Covid-19.aspx

Is everyone afraid of the gangland team of Fauci, Gates, and the Alphabet soup?

I thought this was all hands on deck?! Seriously, it's more like ostriches hiding in fear of losing their grants or license to practice medicine.

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1   theoakman   2020 Aug 9, 5:29pm  

They were experimenting with this in South America. I believe they found that EPO was helpful not just in increasing red blood cell count but also preventing damage to other organs by stimulating tissue production with respect to this virus. This was done initially because they notice people at high altitudes who naturally have higher levels of EPO seemed to be drastically less affected by coronavirus than people at lower altitudes.

I would go one further and suggest that we do what cyclists do to dope. They harvest their red blood cells, store them, and inject them to up their RBC count.
2   Rin   2020 Aug 9, 6:24pm  

theoakman says
I would go one further and suggest that we do what cyclists do to dope. They harvest their red blood cells, store them, and inject them to up their RBC count.


Which begs my question, where's this American Dream Team, the bioworld equivalent of the "1992 Barcelona Olympics US men's b-ball" squad with the best and brightest, solving this problem?

According to rdm and others, they should be fully engaged in treatment protocols and medicines and that as amateurs, we know nothing.

Instead, I see conforming corporatists, who're working non-stop on highly expensive and perhaps even doubtful solutions.
3   theoakman   2020 Aug 9, 6:42pm  

Rin says
theoakman says
I would go one further and suggest that we do what cyclists do to dope. They harvest their red blood cells, store them, and inject them to up their RBC count.


Which begs my question, where's this American Dream Team, the bioworld equivalent of the "1992 Barcelona Olympics US men's b-ball" squad with the best and brightest, solving this problem?

According to rdm and others, they should be fully engaged in treatment protocols and medicines and that as amateurs, we know nothing.

Instead, I see conforming corporatists, who're working non-stop on highly expensive and perhaps even doubtful solutions.


Here's the thing. I doubt there's actually much more work to be done on this in terms of discovery. Doctors are in the know that HCQ + Zinc in the early phase, remdesivir/favapir/various corticosteroids for those hospitalized, oxygen supplementation later on. That's why there's no widespread carnage anymore. They are doing this all quietly while avoiding media attention.

On Joe Rogan's podcast last month, his two comedian buddies got infected when they went to Texas and high fived 400 people after their standup gig. They tested positive right away. The doctor said basically "listen, I don't know what side of the political spectrum you lie on, but there's this drug, HCQ, the one Trump promoted, it works if you take it early". I've attached the clip.

It would be nice if they made the data available for death by age group as a function of time because I'm pretty sure that statistic is likely improving.

www.youtube.com/embed/QEczTXC3rlU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEczTXC3rlU
4   Patrick   2020 Aug 17, 9:57pm  

@rin You'll probably like this tweet:

5   Ceffer   2020 Aug 17, 10:16pm  

Making people better rather than letting them die to manipulate public opinion? Do you think this is the 1950's or something?
6   Rin   2020 Aug 18, 9:06am  

Patrick says
@rin You'll probably like this tweet:



Yes, in place of mainstream ppl discussing this out in public, you know, the "I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE" cult and it's not happening,

Instead, we have a secret society of medical clinicians, nutritionists, amateurs, etc, doing the right thing.

Seriously, are we in the 21st century or the time of the Spanish Inquisition or the Salem Witch Trials? Ppl with actual know-how are being viewed as witches by the mainstream.
7   Rin   2020 Aug 23, 4:59pm  

Here's an article

https://www.yahoo.com/news/t-cells-not-antibodies-may-225818680.html

Excerpt: "Now, all eyes are on T cells and B cells — key players in the response against foreign invaders that emerge after the body has been exposed to a pathogen. Some of these immune T cells can directly kill other infected cells being used as hosts for virus replication, while other “helper” T cells aid in the production of antibodies by helping B cells mature to get the job done."

It's August (5 months since spring) and someone is talking about T memory cells and B cells! Oh Wow!

Seriously, instead of reviewing basic undergrad immunology, or in this case, just one chapter out of an undergrad general biology text, how about indicating how our immunology dream team has identified the key missing factors in long term immunity than in pouting shit which every person with 1 year of (non-grade inflated) biology already knows?

Oh I forgot, it's some rinky dinky crew in Sweden doing blood work. Nevermind, I was under the impression that this was the Manhattan project.
8   mell   2020 Aug 23, 5:30pm  

Rin says
Here's an article

https://www.yahoo.com/news/t-cells-not-antibodies-may-225818680.html

Excerpt: "Now, all eyes are on T cells and B cells — key players in the response against foreign invaders that emerge after the body has been exposed to a pathogen. Some of these immune T cells can directly kill other infected cells being used as hosts for virus replication, while other “helper” T cells aid in the production of antibodies by helping B cells mature to get the job done."

It's August (5 months since spring) and someone is talking about T memory cells and B cells! Oh Wow!

Seriously, instead of reviewing basic undergrad immunology, or in this case, just one chapter out of an undergrad general biology text, how about indicating how our immunology dream team has identified the key missing factors in long term immunity than in pouting shit which every...


Fully agreed. I wonder if these are deliberate propaganda articles to dumb down. That's basic shit sold as news. None of this is new or unique to sars cov 2.
9   Rin   2020 Aug 24, 1:18pm  

At this point in time, I refuse to believe that there are any 'smart' ppl on this project.

I think right now, much of the Covid Dream Team (if you can even call it that) are political and academic hacks who've established themselves by hook/crook and have never done legitimate work in their scientific careers.
10   Bd6r   2020 Aug 24, 1:33pm  

Rin says
At this point in time, I refuse to believe that there are any 'smart' ppl on this project.

I think right now, much of the Covid Dream Team (if you can even call it that) are political and academic hacks who've established themselves by hook/crook and have never done legitimate work in their scientific careers.

I think that they are very smart. How much money would pharma earn if a cure for corona is an off-patent drug? NOTHING, they get ZERO and so they must insist that this of-patent drug is not efficient. Fauci wife is in drug approval business at NIH...
11   Rin   2020 Aug 24, 2:17pm  

Brd6 says
I think that they are very smart.


Ok, but that ties back to my Bill Gate's thread where I ask why ppl respect a man whose primary accomplishment was getting someone else's DOS on IBM hardware (a deal brokered by Gate's mother)?

https://patrick.net/post/1331248/2020-04-05-why-do-ppl-still-look-up-to-bill-gates

Being snarky is not the same as 'smart'. Smart is Tesla/Newton, Snarky is Ken Lay/Angelo Mozillo.

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