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Housing Bubble 2.0 - Subprime 2.0


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2020 Sep 3, 1:28pm   978 views  11 comments

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1   BayArea   2020 Sep 3, 8:43pm  

Ya I dunno...

Market is on fire here in the Bay Area

Work from home is making people want to get a more comfortable situation at home... bigger home bigger yard.
2   RC2006   2020 Sep 3, 9:55pm  

Loans are not as easy to get like in the last crash, rents are much higher now.
3   Blue   2020 Sep 3, 10:13pm  

RC2006 says
Loans are not as easy to get like in the last crash, rents are much higher now.

Still Taxpayers are on the hook for all the defaults.
4   AD   2020 Sep 3, 11:01pm  

BayArea says
Ya I dunno...

Market is on fire here in the Bay Area

Work from home is making people want to get a more comfortable situation at home... bigger home bigger yard.


I was checking outer burbs like Walnut Creek, CA and they are all rated "cool" and not "hot" as far as real estate.

https://www.zillow.com/walnut-creek-ca/home-values/
5   AD   2020 Sep 3, 11:47pm  

Also, that is why the Fed is buying up mortgage - backed securities (MBS). This was posted on another thread. The Fed is propping up housing market like it propped up the stock market.

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https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/ambs_operation_schedule

"The Desk plans to purchase a maximum of $57.8 billion in agency MBS reinvestment operations over the period beginning August 28, 2020 on FedTrade.

The next release of the tentative agency MBS operation schedule will be at 3 PM on Monday, September 14, 2020 for the period beginning September 15, 2020."
6   BayArea   2020 Sep 4, 6:31am  

ad says
BayArea says
Ya I dunno...

Market is on fire here in the Bay Area

Work from home is making people want to get a more comfortable situation at home... bigger home bigger yard.


I was checking outer burbs like Walnut Creek, CA and they are all rated "cool" and not "hot" as far as real estate.

https://www.zillow.com/walnut-creek-ca/home-values/


Either the data is 3mo delayed or just plain wrong

I’ve been house shopping for the past 4mo (tri valley) and it’s a frenzy! None of my over asking offers have been accepted and from my experience, few houses are making it through the weekend...
7   WookieMan   2020 Sep 4, 8:19am  

BayArea says
Either the data is 3mo delayed or just plain wrong

I haven't checked the city lately (Chicago) but houses around me are selling relatively quickly and there's been more inventory but it sells. Prices are stable as well. Anecdotal and a small market, but it's mostly blue collar workers in my town and not a huge amount of professionals. Lots of hillbillies.

In IL at least, there hasn't been much building for 12 plus years. Population has declined, but plenty of millennials are aging into their buying years now. I think in places where there's limited new construction, prices can't really move much. There's simply not enough houses and demand is staying steady as these young adults start wanting to buy.
8   Misc   2020 Sep 4, 9:25am  

Nothing a few million more illegals can't cure.
9   AD   2020 Sep 4, 12:30pm  

Misc says
Nothing a few million more illegals can't cure.


That's California's chief industry. Create and export white liberals to red and purple states. Then replace the white liberals with illegal immigrants.

That is why California is a sanctuary state.

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10   EBGuy   2020 Sep 4, 1:19pm  

BayArea says
Market is on fire here in the Bay Area

It's an interesting situation. The median is the message. Sales are down, but transactions are skewing to the high end so the median is skyrocketing due to mix.
Current market prices have been driven higher by wealthy buyers snapping up more high-end homes, with relatively fewer, lower-priced starter homes selling, agents and economists say.
“It’s just a hot market,” said CoreLogic economist Selma Hepp. Buyers flocked to single family homes, seeking more space. Hepp attributed some of the growth in median prices to a pick up in sales of Bay Area homes going for more than $3 million.

As I mentioned on another thread, Ess Eff S&P Case-Shiller Home Price Index is down 0.6% month to month.
11   Ceffer   2020 Sep 4, 1:25pm  

I think Texas is a sanctuary state for fucked up Californians bailing out of the shit holes they created with their liberal voting patterns. They wanted KommieKunts to ease their bizarre manufactured guilt, they got KommieKunts. I guess they are KommieKunting Texas now. You already hear people mourning the loss of downtown Austin compared to what it used to be.

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