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Rittenhouse will be found not guilty, Chicago Tribune Leftist says


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2020 Sep 7, 6:47am   1,276 views  34 comments

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Those of us on the left who are already outraged that it’s legal for civilians to openly carry military-style assault weapons in public spaces should begin now to brace for the inevitable resolution of this case.

Kyle Rittenhouse is probably going to walk.

He’s going to plead self-defense — his lawyers have already signaled as much — and from what I’ve seen, read and heard, I predict he’s going to be acquitted on the most serious charges.

Yes, it seems certain that Rittenhouse was in violation of Chapter 948.6 of Wisconsin law when he was guarding business properties with a weapon of war slung across his back. That law bans minors from carrying guns, and Kenosha County’s criminal complaint notes the maximum penalty for that offense is nine months in jail and a $10,000 fine.

But even those who break that law don’t forfeit their right to “use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm (if they) reasonably believe that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to (themselves),” as Chapter 939.48, Wisconsin’s self-defense law, spells out.

According to prosecutors, video from the scene and witness accounts, the legally relevant portion of the story picked up a little before midnight: For unknown reasons, Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, who had earlier been yelling angrily at the armed men who had come to the protests, was at a run, chasing Rittenhouse along Sheridan Road and into the parking lot of a used-car dealer.

When Rosenbaum, who was unarmed, finally cornered Rittenhouse, he grabbed for the teenager’s gun. Multiple shots rang out, and Rosenbaum fell, mortally wounded.

Did Rittenhouse have a reasonable belief under the circumstances that if Rosenbaum got his gun he would suffer death or great bodily harm? Jurors in Wisconsin are instructed that “reasonable” means “what a person of ordinary intelligence and prudence would have believed ... under the circumstances that existed at the time.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-column-rittenhouse-kenosha-self-defense-zorn-20200903-susvsg45yndn7pb67l42ywnzn4-story.html

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1   RWSGFY   2020 Sep 7, 7:13am  

Duh!
2   Karloff   2020 Sep 7, 7:31am  

I think it's absurd that Kyle even has to spend an inordinate amount of his time defending this in the courts. They could easily review all the video footage and come to the come to the conclusion that it's clearly self-defense and not press charges.

The justice system has become too big and complex for the good of the people. Even when you're clearly innocent, you have to spend a lot of time and money to defend yourself. Add to this the stress, lack of sleep, and possible smear jobs the media might concoct against you, and it's fair to say that even the innocent are quite heavily punished through what they endure in the process.
3   Tenpoundbass   2020 Sep 7, 7:32am  

NoCoupForYou says
He’s going to plead self-defense — his lawyers have already signaled as much


And what other plea is there but the truth?
4   Karloff   2020 Sep 7, 7:42am  

guarding business properties with a weapon of war slung across his back

Well there's the loaded term "weapon of war", designed to strike fear into people's minds and manipulate their opinion.

Here's a take on that: I saw that video. Those "protesters" turned that area into a war zone. Defending yourself with "weapons of war" is entirely appropriate.
6   WookieMan   2020 Sep 7, 8:02am  

Good. I've got a $100 bet on it with my buddies Dad.
7   WookieMan   2020 Sep 7, 8:38am  

Yup. Thinks he committed a crime. I was actually shocked with his take hence how the bet came about.
8   AD   2020 Sep 7, 8:50am  

Also, Steve Ray Baca of New Mexico needs to be acquitted also.
9   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Sep 7, 11:42am  

They always slip in biased bullshit, even in what seems to be a somewhat reasonable article.

"...with a weapon of war slung across his back."

Folks can and do hunt deer with AR-15's. There are quite a few semi-automatic hunting rifles.

If you were going into war with an AR-15 like weapon, you'd want it to have an automatic mode as well. Semi's are not illegal (yet) and have uses beyond the military.
10   Bd6r   2020 Sep 7, 11:50am  

WookieMan says
Yup. Thinks he committed a crime. I was actually shocked with his take hence how the bet came about.

They will get him for parading around with a rifle while being underage, but he will be acquitted of shooting the commiehead pedo's.
11   RWSGFY   2020 Sep 7, 4:17pm  

Brd6 says
They will get him for parading around with a rifle while being underage


Not even that.
12   RWSGFY   2020 Sep 7, 4:17pm  

cynn says
Wasn't Kyle an "outside agitator?"


"Outside" of what?
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Sep 7, 4:29pm  

#ChinaisAsshoe #FreeHongKong #CCPisTerrorist
14   RWSGFY   2020 Sep 7, 4:32pm  

cynn says
Like all the other opportunists that have come flooding into protest zones to foment looting and violence. You know, those agitators. What possible stake did little Kyle have in Kenosha? Protecting businesses? How humanitarian. Vigilante - I'm agnostic on all this racial upheaval bullshit, but anyone who needs an assault rifle is a fucking bad shot. And anyone who crosses state lines to incite violence in a matter that doesn't concern them deserves to be PUNISHED1111


Nice try. Kyle works in Kenosha, i.e. is a member of local community. And he didn't "entice" anything, just peacefully observed the violent riot and put out a fire these rioters tried to start in a dumpster.

But I agree with the notion that these roving bands of traveling BLM agitators need to be PUNISHED1111
15   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Sep 7, 4:33pm  

cynn says
Like all the other opportunists that have come flooding into protest zones to foment looting and violence. You know, those agitators. What possible stake did little Kyle have in Kenosha? Protecting businesses? How humanitarian. Vigilante - I'm agnostic on all this racial upheaval bullshit, but anyone who needs an assault rifle is a fucking bad shot. And anyone who crosses state lines to incite violence in a matter that doesn't concern them deserves to be PUNISHED1111


Kyle did not have an assault rifle. Look up the definition.

He did not cross state lines to incite violence. Look up the definition of incite. The word is more accurately applied to those who crossed state lines to riot and to commit arson.
16   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Sep 7, 4:54pm  

cynn says
And that will cause even more rioting and fury and all kinds of misplaced angst.
People have free will to do what they will. To argue that he be found guilty to placate a mob is a despicable suggestion.
17   ignoreme   2020 Sep 7, 6:08pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
He did not cross state lines to incite violence.


The left is like an abusive husband who beats their wife.

“Why did you incite me into hitting you?”
18   Shaman   2020 Sep 7, 6:26pm  

ignoreme says
The left is like an abusive husband who beats their wife.

“Why did you incite me into hitting you?”





That was the story behind the shooting that set fire to Kenosha. Jacob Parker was busy beating his wife, stealing her car and absconding with the kids while high AF when the police showed up. He decided to fight and wrestle with them, then got free and walked over to retrieve his knife from the floor of the car. Then he got shot.

Obviously he was a good boy who dindu nuffin!
19   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Sep 7, 7:31pm  

It's all the same in moderation, including choice words for the site admin. Getting rid of them.
20   cynn   2020 Sep 7, 7:36pm  

antiforum
21   Hircus   2020 Sep 7, 7:53pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Those of us on the left who are already outraged that it’s legal for civilians to openly carry military-style assault weapons in public spaces should begin now to brace for the inevitable resolution of this case.

Kyle Rittenhouse is probably going to walk.

He’s going to plead self-defense — his lawyers have already signaled as much — and from what I’ve seen, read and heard, I predict he’s going to be acquitted on the most serious charges.


It really upsets me to see how some of these leftists think. I'm not sure if it's their hatred of guns, or hatred of people on the right who arm themselves with them, but they're obviously upset that Kyle will walk. I sense their disdain that Kyle will "plead self defense" as if it's an excuse, not a reality. It feels like they place most/all of the blame of the outcome of that evening on Kyle and his friends, as evidenced by them wanting to get Kyle on any petty charge possible, ignoring the big picture that it was valid self-defense.

And, they specifically distinguished between guns and "military-style assault weapons" because ole bicep boy and a few other NPCs clearly had handguns in some of the videos, and they want .

They're just angry that their "peaceful" Burn-Loot-Murder efforts were thwarted.
22   WookieMan   2020 Sep 7, 8:17pm  

TrumpingTits says
What are the details on the conditions of the bet?

Loose guidelines. Basically any murder or manslaughter charges. Any transport or minor charges aren’t a part of it. Jury has to hit him with something, though I’d be shocked if he’s found guilty of a damn thing either.
23   RWSGFY   2020 Sep 7, 8:50pm  

Hircus says
ole bicep boy and a few other NPCs clearly had handguns in some of the videos


Well, the bicep boy had a Glock pistol, which is a "military-style" weapon too, so there.

PS. The whole "military-style" moniker is incredibly stupid. I'm not even sure what are they trying to convey by using it. There are plenty "civilian" firearms which are much more powerful than whatever small arms are adopted by the military.
24   Karloff   2020 Sep 7, 9:35pm  

Hircus says
their hatred of guns, or hatred of people on the right who arm themselves with them

The latter. They have no problems with any kind of weapons in the hands of enforcement personnel as long as those storm troopers are enforcing the left's ideology.

They want you disarmed because they don't want you being able to resist their authoritarianism. They're collectivists, so anyone who exhibits individualism or a lack of need for the collective is a dangerous enemy because they offer an alternative to the message that people can't exist as individuals and need to be part of the hive mind.

People who are individualistic and successful are primary targets for these vermin. Kyle fits that roll and then some, since he stood up to them and came out on top.
25   zzyzzx   2020 Oct 14, 8:31am  

https://nationalfile.com/illinois-prosecutors-announce-they-will-not-file-charges-against-kyle-rittenhouse/

Illinois Prosecutors Announce They Will Not File Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse

Prosecutors in Lake County, Illinois have announced that they will not be filing weapons charges against 17-year-old volunteer lifeguard Kyle Rittenhouse, who is currently charged with first degree murder by prosecutors in Kenosha. The news comes as a victory for Rittenhouse’s defense team, which is currently fighting attempts to extradite the teen to Wisconsin.

Rittenhouse still faces charges in Winconsin.
26   Shaman   2020 Oct 14, 8:44am  

That could be just clearing the way for extradition to Wisconsin.
27   WookieMan   2020 Oct 14, 10:04am  

Shaman says
That could be just clearing the way for extradition to Wisconsin.

Nah. I know the prosecutor in Lake County. Lake County is yuppieville X 1,000. They don't want the drama near their $1M+ homes. Pretty sure it's the most expensive county on average in the state. Not sure about median. There are a few less desirable cities like Wauconda... lol #BlackPanther
28   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 14, 10:12am  

NoCoupForYou says
Yes, it seems certain that Rittenhouse was in violation of Chapter 948.6 of Wisconsin law when he was guarding business properties with a weapon of war slung across his back. That law bans minors from carrying guns, and Kenosha County’s criminal complaint notes the maximum penalty for that offense is nine months in jail and a $10,000 fine.


Unconstitutional! The right to defend one's life, is not left up to a local ordinance.

I think all City and County ordinance laws goes right out the fucking window in a flaming bag of Bullshit. When the City officials make their law enforcement stand down to partake in a George Soros Social Experiment. It is THEY that need to be shitting in their pants about the law suits coming all of their way.
29   Eric Holder   2020 Oct 30, 5:57pm  

Shaman says
That could be just clearing the way for extradition to Wisconsin.


Yep:


"WAUKEGAN, Illinois — An Illinois judge on Friday ordered the extradition of the 17-year-old accused of killing two protesters and injuring another in August during demonstrations after the shooting that paralyzed Jacob Blake in Wisconsin. Kyle Rittenhouse was turned over to Wisconsin authorities Friday evening, WTMJ reported.

In a written order, Lake County Circuit Judge Paul Novak ordered the extradition of Rittenhouse to Wisconsin, where he faces first-degree reckless homicide and first-degree intentional homicide charges in Kenosha County, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported.""









#FREEKYLE
30   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Oct 30, 8:27pm  

Vandalizing, looting, and setting property ablaze is blatant lawlessness. Police should immediately and authoritatively intervene with whatever force is necessary. Otherwise, we'll continue to have situations like with Rittenhouse. For dereliction of duty by telling the police to stand down, I blame the mayor and governor for this turn of events.
31   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Oct 30, 8:32pm  

Yes, there are a couple of ways to go. You order the police to maintain law and order, and call in the National Guard, if necessary and shoot looters and arsonists. Or, you order the police to stand down, refuse to call in the National Guard, and let your city burn and businesses be destroyed. The second choice emboldens criminals to act again with impunity.
32   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Oct 30, 9:07pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Yes, there are a couple of ways to go. You order the police to maintain law and order, and call in the National Guard, if necessary and shoot looters and arsonists. Or, you order the police to stand down, refuse to call in the National Guard, and let your city burn and businesses be destroyed. The second choice emboldens criminals to act again with impunity.
Ah, but if you can get Harris elected, she'll bail out your hellhole city with federal taxpayer $$$, so all is good! /sarc
33   komputodo   2020 Oct 30, 9:26pm  

Karloff says
Kyle fits that roll and then some, since he stood up to them and came out on top.

HELL YEAH...he scored the KENOSHA HAT TRICK
34   zzyzzx   2020 Nov 13, 6:28am  

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-kyle-rittenhouses-mom-announces-lawsuit-against-joe-biden-on-tucker-carlson-tonight/

The mother of a 17-year-old teen who is currently residing in jail and faces murder murder charges after defending himself on video against violent protesters in Kenosha appeared on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight” to announce a lawsuit against Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden, who used her son’s image to make false claims about white supremacy in an election campaign.

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