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Got text-spammed by Kamala campaign and did my best to convert the spammer

By Patrick follow Patrick   2020 Oct 9, 6:31pm 641 views   55 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    














First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name? That's pretty creepy right there.

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16   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Oct 10, 5:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
Patrick says
As for my phone, I just never answer unless I know the person. If it's important, they will leave a message.

Has anyone considered how fucked up it is that a person doesn't even want to answer the phone anymore?

Standard practice for me. If I don't have your number saved, why would I answer? Makes no sense. If you own a business, different story, but if you're just a regular 'ole employee somewhere, no point in answering. As Patrick says, anything of importance leave a message. It's not a requirement to answer your phone. And don't leave the shit message "hey, it's Patrick, give me a call." Tell me why you're calling and I'll want to call you back. I don't return calls with those types of voicemails.
17   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2020 Oct 10, 7:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

That's why I always Drop a couple F-bombs, and call them Shit Birds. I don't like my partisan canvassers sassing back.
19   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Oct 10, 8:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name?

Nothing will get done, but file a complaint I think with the FCC. Spam texting is illegal. Fines can be big "if" the FCC decides to pursue action.
20   NDrLoR   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 10, 8:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BayArea says
It’s interesting how many people don’t answer their phones if they don’t recognize the number (and half the time they do recognize it they still don’t answer).

I’m sure this has a lot to do with the amount of spam and robocalls people get.
Already had the first robo call this morning. Most times the system gets it and have only one ring. More and more, though, the number gets through and four rings ensue. I watch the ID and if I don't recognize it, don't answer it--my name isn't in the message. One day, a number kept calling over and over with the last four numbers being changed each time. Sometimes out of curiosity I dial #67 then call the number back and inevitably "sorry this number can't reached as dialed".
21   Dbr6   ignore (0)   2020 Oct 10, 8:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I got text message to fill out some stupid poll about elections. Filled it out saying everywhere that I will vote for trump and that D's suck, and have not received any more. Text was from D's.
22   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 10, 9:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Another fatal outcome from unfettered immigration. Ever been interviewed by someone whose English was so bad and accent so thick that you can't understand them? Imagine how the American tech worker feels when that happens increasingly, esp. with everything remote calls now with poor sound quality. I remember a couple of those lol
23   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Oct 10, 10:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Dbr6 says
I got text message to fill out some stupid poll about elections. Filled it out saying everywhere that I will vote for trump and that D's suck, and have not received any more. Text was from D's.

That's not good. If I recall you're in TX. That means the Dems think they can swing that state or I'm maybe looking into that too much. I get nothing here in IL. No calls, emails, polling, etc. We're bluer than a god damn Smurf. Somewhat surprised Patrick is getting texts in CA though. This obviously happens every election, but it's pretty clear Dems are hoping for high turnout. Getting lazy people to vote for free stuff can be a challenge.
24   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 10, 10:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TX will go solidly Trump. FL likely too. But he needs AZ, OH, NC and either Pennsylvania or Michigan.
25   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 10, 10:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says
BayArea says
At the same time, receiving a call is kind of intrusive these day


Email and texting are really much better.


I read that when phones were first invented, polite society would not use them because it was considered so intrusive and demeaning to drop what you were doing at the ring of a bell.

Good point that I probably have a good basis for complaint with the FCC.
26   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2020 Oct 10, 10:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Good point that I probably have a good basis for complaint with the FCC.

I'd make sure to send one last text to stop texting me and I don't know how you got my info. Again, FCC likely won't do shit, but it takes maybe 10 minutes from the times I've reported fuck heads that send spam text. Email is one thing, text, no. I've given up on email spam, gonna fight hard against text spam before it becomes the same thing.
27   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 10, 11:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I read that when phones were first invented, polite society would not use them because it was considered so intrusive and demeaning to drop what you were doing at the ring of a bell.


Everyone in your neighborhood had their own custom ring because calls rang at everyone's house! You weren't supposed to pick the phone up if it wasn't your ring but people did to eavesdrop all-the-time.

Of course, I've only heard stories from the older peeps in my family.
28   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 10, 11:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
I'd make sure to send one last text to stop texting me and I don't know how you got my info.


Would have been funny if Pat suckered it into a bribery conversation: "So, how much are you willing to pay me to get my vote?"
29   Ceffer   ignore (4)   2020 Oct 10, 11:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_adhom_preaching says
"So, how much are you willing to pay me to get my vote?"

If you have 0.000001 percent black or African DNA, you clearly qualify for cash reparations when you register your Democratic vote.
30   TrumpingTits   ignore (4)   2020 Oct 10, 1:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name? That's pretty creepy right there.


Voter Registration married to your DMV records. Same info the court system uses to send out jury summons.
31   NDrLoR   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 10, 1:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_adhom_preaching says
Of course, I've only heard stories from the older peeps in my family
My mother told me she used to listen in to a phone conversation between one of her friends and her friend's mother when the friend was having martial problems in the 1920's. I asked her if it was someone I knew and she said yes but she wouldn't tell me who it was. In my apartment from 1975 to 1980 I had a party line and my bill was $3.00 a month, never had any trouble getting a line when I needed one.
32   TrumpingTits   ignore (4)   2020 Oct 10, 2:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I got spammed back in August by MoveON.org:



33   Hircus   ignore (0)   2020 Oct 10, 3:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I ran into a former coworker and we talked for a bit. Seems he was infected with a bad case of TDS, as he mentioned he was now part of the Democratic Socialists group near San Jose. He said he often donated his time and code to them, and assured me that it was always a real person on the other end of the text messages.

Not that I don't think it's possible for an AI bot to do, but if this campaign in silicon valley wasn't using them, maybe they aren't so popular.
34   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 10, 3:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I'm sure there is an algorithm in any case.

As an undergrad, I got a part time job doing cold calling of alums to ask them to donate to U. Michigan (where I had transferred to from Notre Dame).

They gave me a script booklet, which I was to use to identify the specific objection to donating and then read the counter-argument. Feels very much like the guy who texted me was given the same kind of script booklet.

The responses we were told to read were extremely manipulative. The whole thing was run by a consultant from New York named Diane Necci if i recall right.

Overseers would be listening to our calls. I would just let the people off the hook without following the script to the end, so I got fired on the second day. The whole experience really sucked.
35   rocketjoe79   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 10, 4:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick, I salute you, sir, for this labor of love and dedication.

Sales is about behavior modification and getting the answer they want. Expect the AI to only get better unless it is leased in by legislation. Or prevented from publishing or moderating political discussion. Good luck with that, as long as SPAC and other monies continue to grow in volume. Ads = Revenue, and the AI is programmed to maximize revenue. At the cost of completely diving the country.

I do recommend watching "The Social Dilemma" on Netflix. The words straight fropm the mouths of the very people who programmed the exploitative behaviors of the Social media Giant machines are damning - and chilling. None of these people allow their kids under High Schol age to have a smart phone. The apps are simply too powerful for underdeveloped brains.
36   Hircus   ignore (0)   2020 Oct 10, 6:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I'm sure there is an algorithm in any case.


Ya, that just made me think of how much opportunity there must be for software here. For starters, I imagine they use some kinda desktop software w/ mouse + keyboard, and likely have a GUI that lets them interact with many conversations at a time. They must have a lot of downtime between sending a message, and getting a reply, so they could hold at least a few concurrent conversations, perhaps many.

But, a good system could also have many fact-containing sentences programmed in, so a simple click adds the text into the box. And, maybe some code to analyze the user's message, and sort certain responses to the top to let the operator find them quickly. And then a good searchable index, along with hierarchically categorized facts the operator can sift through. I bet they have categories like "orange man bad", "fauci good", "trump nepotism", "climate change", "believe womyn" etc...

Something like that could cause the kinda replies you had, where they smell of both human and robot.
37   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 11, 3:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
Patrick says
As for my phone, I just never answer unless I know the person. If it's important, they will leave a message.

Has anyone considered how fucked up it is that a person doesn't even want to answer the phone anymore?


Im trying to change this with my chatbot insurance sales system :)

@Patrick, they got your number from voter records. Political, medical, and business to business calls can skip most TCPA limitations. (If your number is registered as a business line you will get more spam calls).

For all other calls, the calling company must check your number against databases to make sure its not a cellphone nor on national do not call list before calling you from 9 am to 8 pm. A cellphone can never be called or texted w/o permission.

Only landlines are allowed to be cold called. Ofc most telemarketers are usually dialing prospects who entered info into contact forms in some digital funnel.

Rules on these opt ins are super dicey. Consumer is allowed to take away permission, but many companies send user info to 6 or more individual brokers... So you're fucked.

I once tested a new gmail and google voice number with assurance.com 's (sold to prudential for $6B) callback system. I put this new info in their contact form and voila : about 500 calls/texts/voicemails/emails over next fee weeks... Every type of random spam you can think of from penis pills and mortage refinancing (the form was for health insurance).
38   TrumpingTits   ignore (4)   2020 Oct 11, 11:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
It's weird that donkeys are spending any time at all on CA voters. The shit is in the bag for them here, so why bother? Is it money they want?


That has to be it. I mean they have a lock on most of the local and state offices, too.
40   Hircus   ignore (0)   2020 Oct 11, 11:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says


Notice he ended it by getting in a subtle last word - "stay safe". He's trying to subliminally convince you the scamdemic is cause for constant daily fear & caution, which of course is congruent with their "orange man caused pandemic" narrative.
41   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 11, 12:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@CBOEtrader I love it. Was the Darth comment your own, or is this screenshot from somewhere else?
42   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 11, 7:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
@CBOEtrader I love it. Was the Darth comment your own, or is this screenshot from somewhere else?


That was my exchange w them :)
43   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 11, 7:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says
Im trying to change this with my chatbot insurance sales system :)


This is my busy season and the chatbot absolutely killed it today! $2 conversions! People hate phone calls. I refer to myself the No Call broker, and clients are loving it. I have 6 phone appointments (requested by the client) for tomorrow.
44   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 11, 8:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says
That was my exchange w them :)


You guys need to mask your phone number.
45   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 11, 9:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_adhom_preaching says
CBOEtrader says
That was my exchange w them :)


You guys need to mask your phone number.


Its the callers phone number. Feel free to spam the Biden campaign bro
46   RC2006   ignore (2)   2020 Oct 12, 7:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I blow up their phone if its a human. One guy I txt for days from work.
47   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 12, 8:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name? That's pretty creepy right there.


There is a demonrat app which allows to rat out people's names and phone ## along with a guess wrt their party affiliation to DNC/Joe/Kameltoe. I guess somebody did that to you.
48   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2020 Oct 12, 8:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name?


Cell carrier, any social media apps on the phone, google or apple account, any form where you put your real name and that cell number. Unless you're pretty paranoid about your privacy, there's endless sources for them.
49   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (6)   2020 Oct 12, 9:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says
Its the callers phone number. Feel free to spam the Biden campaign bro


Doh!
50   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 13, 1:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
It's weird that donkeys are spending any time at all on CA voters. The shit is in the bag for them here, so why bother? Is it money they want?

Trying to rack up the score so that if Trump wins they can bray that Harris should be president because she won the popular vote.
51   Dbr6   ignore (0)   2020 Oct 13, 1:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NuttBoxer says
Cell carrier, any social media apps on the phone, google or apple account, any form where you put your real name and that cell number. Unless you're pretty paranoid about your privacy, there's endless sources for them.

Quite interestingly, they still think that I am Ms Garcia even though I have this number for over 5 years now, and I constantly get texts/calls/instructions how to vote early and vote D. Gives me tons of entertainment, and shows that their system is by no means perfect. Have never got a spam call by my real name.
52   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2020 Oct 13, 9:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Good point. Outside of NSA, the means of accurate data collection are certainly more limited. My phone was purchased using an Ebay account that doesn't tie back to me, paid with a gift card. I've had difficulty using it for 2fa on some sites, guessing because it's not associated with a real person.
53   Dbr6   ignore (0)   2020 Oct 14, 12:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NuttBoxer says
Good point. Outside of NSA, the means of accurate data collection are certainly more limited. My phone was purchased using an Ebay account that doesn't tie back to me, paid with a gift card. I've had difficulty using it for 2fa on some sites, guessing because it's not associated with a real person.

I bought with my (wife's) real name, but from a reseller. I think that since 98% of population is orgasmically providing their personal data, companies do not put much thought into identifying customers as they identify themselves, so a few of us who are more discreet can slide by unnoticed unless something extraordinary happens.
My previous phone was like your's as well, but it was a fliphone and stopped working 5 yrs ago.
55   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Oct 17, 9:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Lol, beautiful troll there.

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