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Got text-spammed by Kamala campaign and did my best to convert the spammer


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2020 Oct 9, 6:31pm   1,531 views  59 comments

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First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name? That's pretty creepy right there.

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1   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 9, 6:55pm  

That is sooo awesome Pat! 250 cool points for you!

It is creepy, I've been getting them too. I've just been calling them commie fuck face and they've tapered off.

If I get another I might try your approach.
2   Patrick   2020 Oct 9, 7:13pm  

Thanks! I'm going to look at them as opportunities to connect to someone who really needs help.

But could it all have been some AI bot?

Even so, maybe the results are reviewed by a human with the right to vote.
3   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 9, 7:15pm  

I think it's human. 'Bush started the wars and Trump hasn't stopped', an AI can't be that wrong eh?
4   Ceffer   2020 Oct 9, 7:18pm  

Definitely programmed AI bot with the hypocritical and false Dem screeds and free shit shower. More likely just to firm up the already converted and hopefully a few on the fence.
5   BayArea   2020 Oct 9, 7:57pm  

I think someone is using you

Lol, solid ending!
6   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Oct 9, 8:09pm  

hmmm. sounds like your interaction was from Skamala.
7   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Oct 9, 8:09pm  

My sister lived in Ohio in 2008, when that was a battleground state. She said she had to just disconnect the landline phone because it was ringing 50+ times per day with robocalls and human calls.
8   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Oct 9, 8:11pm  

Just wondering how people manage their phone(s). I only have a cell phone — no tethered phone. It's set to send all calls not in my phone's address book directly to voicemail. Apple's voice-to-text translation of recorded messages, as bad as it is at getting the words just right, is fine at giving me the gist of any message left.
9   RWSGFY   2020 Oct 9, 9:26pm  

It's weird that donkeys are spending any time at all on CA voters. The shit is in the bag for them here, so why bother? Is it money they want?
10   Patrick   2020 Oct 9, 10:27pm  

Maybe this is good news, meaning that they are actually worried about California.

As for my phone, I just never answer unless I know the person. If it's important, they will leave a message.
11   Ceffer   2020 Oct 9, 10:43pm  

It's their expression of guilt and fear over willfully destroying so many economies, jobs and businesses purely out of political evil, that they might actually be tasked for it.

Blue Pill script reversal blame on Trump hasn't worked, thus the recent easing of Covid tyranny out of fear of political backlash against the true authors of the madness.
12   komputodo   2020 Oct 9, 10:51pm  

Patrick says
As for my phone, I just never answer unless I know the person. If it's important, they will leave a message.

Has anyone considered how fucked up it is that a person doesn't even want to answer the phone anymore?
13   BayArea   2020 Oct 9, 11:05pm  

It’s interesting how many people don’t answer their phones if they don’t recognize the number (and half the time they do recognize it they still don’t answer).

I’m sure this has a lot to do with the amount of spam and robocalls people get.

At the same time, receiving a call is kind of intrusive these days. It requires me to stop what I’m doing to answer. I can probably count on two hands how many people I have in my life that I’m willing to do that for consistently.

I remember before cell phones and caller ID, it was kind of exciting to hear the landline ring. But of course that was before all the spam.
14   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Oct 10, 2:33am  

FuckCCP89 says
It's weird that donkeys are spending any time at all on CA voters. The shit is in the bag for them here, so why bother? Is it money they want?


They need the house seats baaadddd. A PAC just started going nuts with an outrageous slander attack against Michelle Steele, who is running for congress in Huntington Beach. The ads are like every commercial break.
15   Booger   2020 Oct 10, 4:52am  

BayArea says
At the same time, receiving a call is kind of intrusive these day


Email and texting are really much better.
16   WookieMan   2020 Oct 10, 5:27am  

komputodo says
Patrick says
As for my phone, I just never answer unless I know the person. If it's important, they will leave a message.

Has anyone considered how fucked up it is that a person doesn't even want to answer the phone anymore?

Standard practice for me. If I don't have your number saved, why would I answer? Makes no sense. If you own a business, different story, but if you're just a regular 'ole employee somewhere, no point in answering. As Patrick says, anything of importance leave a message. It's not a requirement to answer your phone. And don't leave the shit message "hey, it's Patrick, give me a call." Tell me why you're calling and I'll want to call you back. I don't return calls with those types of voicemails.
17   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 10, 7:05am  

That's why I always Drop a couple F-bombs, and call them Shit Birds. I don't like my partisan canvassers sassing back.
19   WookieMan   2020 Oct 10, 8:28am  

Patrick says
First of all, how the fuck did they get my number and know my name?

Nothing will get done, but file a complaint I think with the FCC. Spam texting is illegal. Fines can be big "if" the FCC decides to pursue action.
20   NDrLoR   2020 Oct 10, 8:38am  

BayArea says
It’s interesting how many people don’t answer their phones if they don’t recognize the number (and half the time they do recognize it they still don’t answer).

I’m sure this has a lot to do with the amount of spam and robocalls people get.
Already had the first robo call this morning. Most times the system gets it and have only one ring. More and more, though, the number gets through and four rings ensue. I watch the ID and if I don't recognize it, don't answer it--my name isn't in the message. One day, a number kept calling over and over with the last four numbers being changed each time. Sometimes out of curiosity I dial #67 then call the number back and inevitably "sorry this number can't reached as dialed".
21   Bd6r   2020 Oct 10, 8:40am  

I got text message to fill out some stupid poll about elections. Filled it out saying everywhere that I will vote for trump and that D's suck, and have not received any more. Text was from D's.
22   mell   2020 Oct 10, 9:34am  

Another fatal outcome from unfettered immigration. Ever been interviewed by someone whose English was so bad and accent so thick that you can't understand them? Imagine how the American tech worker feels when that happens increasingly, esp. with everything remote calls now with poor sound quality. I remember a couple of those lol
23   WookieMan   2020 Oct 10, 10:13am  

Dbr6 says
I got text message to fill out some stupid poll about elections. Filled it out saying everywhere that I will vote for trump and that D's suck, and have not received any more. Text was from D's.

That's not good. If I recall you're in TX. That means the Dems think they can swing that state or I'm maybe looking into that too much. I get nothing here in IL. No calls, emails, polling, etc. We're bluer than a god damn Smurf. Somewhat surprised Patrick is getting texts in CA though. This obviously happens every election, but it's pretty clear Dems are hoping for high turnout. Getting lazy people to vote for free stuff can be a challenge.
24   mell   2020 Oct 10, 10:16am  

TX will go solidly Trump. FL likely too. But he needs AZ, OH, NC and either Pennsylvania or Michigan.
25   Patrick   2020 Oct 10, 10:29am  

Booger says
BayArea says
At the same time, receiving a call is kind of intrusive these day


Email and texting are really much better.


I read that when phones were first invented, polite society would not use them because it was considered so intrusive and demeaning to drop what you were doing at the ring of a bell.

Good point that I probably have a good basis for complaint with the FCC.
26   WookieMan   2020 Oct 10, 10:39am  

Patrick says
Good point that I probably have a good basis for complaint with the FCC.

I'd make sure to send one last text to stop texting me and I don't know how you got my info. Again, FCC likely won't do shit, but it takes maybe 10 minutes from the times I've reported fuck heads that send spam text. Email is one thing, text, no. I've given up on email spam, gonna fight hard against text spam before it becomes the same thing.
27   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 10, 11:19am  

Patrick says
I read that when phones were first invented, polite society would not use them because it was considered so intrusive and demeaning to drop what you were doing at the ring of a bell.


Everyone in your neighborhood had their own custom ring because calls rang at everyone's house! You weren't supposed to pick the phone up if it wasn't your ring but people did to eavesdrop all-the-time.

Of course, I've only heard stories from the older peeps in my family.
28   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 10, 11:20am  

WookieMan says
I'd make sure to send one last text to stop texting me and I don't know how you got my info.


Would have been funny if Pat suckered it into a bribery conversation: "So, how much are you willing to pay me to get my vote?"
29   Ceffer   2020 Oct 10, 11:30am  

just_adhom_preaching says
"So, how much are you willing to pay me to get my vote?"

If you have 0.000001 percent black or African DNA, you clearly qualify for cash reparations when you register your Democratic vote.
30   NDrLoR   2020 Oct 10, 1:45pm  

just_adhom_preaching says
Of course, I've only heard stories from the older peeps in my family
My mother told me she used to listen in to a phone conversation between one of her friends and her friend's mother when the friend was having martial problems in the 1920's. I asked her if it was someone I knew and she said yes but she wouldn't tell me who it was. In my apartment from 1975 to 1980 I had a party line and my bill was $3.00 a month, never had any trouble getting a line when I needed one.
31   Hircus   2020 Oct 10, 3:32pm  

I ran into a former coworker and we talked for a bit. Seems he was infected with a bad case of TDS, as he mentioned he was now part of the Democratic Socialists group near San Jose. He said he often donated his time and code to them, and assured me that it was always a real person on the other end of the text messages.

Not that I don't think it's possible for an AI bot to do, but if this campaign in silicon valley wasn't using them, maybe they aren't so popular.
32   Patrick   2020 Oct 10, 3:41pm  

I'm sure there is an algorithm in any case.

As an undergrad, I got a part time job doing cold calling of alums to ask them to donate to U. Michigan (where I had transferred to from Notre Dame).

They gave me a script booklet, which I was to use to identify the specific objection to donating and then read the counter-argument. Feels very much like the guy who texted me was given the same kind of script booklet.

The responses we were told to read were extremely manipulative. The whole thing was run by a consultant from New York named Diane Necci if i recall right.

Overseers would be listening to our calls. I would just let the people off the hook without following the script to the end, so I got fired on the second day. The whole experience really sucked.
33   rocketjoe79   2020 Oct 10, 4:09pm  

Patrick, I salute you, sir, for this labor of love and dedication.

Sales is about behavior modification and getting the answer they want. Expect the AI to only get better unless it is leased in by legislation. Or prevented from publishing or moderating political discussion. Good luck with that, as long as SPAC and other monies continue to grow in volume. Ads = Revenue, and the AI is programmed to maximize revenue. At the cost of completely diving the country.

I do recommend watching "The Social Dilemma" on Netflix. The words straight fropm the mouths of the very people who programmed the exploitative behaviors of the Social media Giant machines are damning - and chilling. None of these people allow their kids under High Schol age to have a smart phone. The apps are simply too powerful for underdeveloped brains.
34   Hircus   2020 Oct 10, 6:18pm  

Patrick says
I'm sure there is an algorithm in any case.


Ya, that just made me think of how much opportunity there must be for software here. For starters, I imagine they use some kinda desktop software w/ mouse + keyboard, and likely have a GUI that lets them interact with many conversations at a time. They must have a lot of downtime between sending a message, and getting a reply, so they could hold at least a few concurrent conversations, perhaps many.

But, a good system could also have many fact-containing sentences programmed in, so a simple click adds the text into the box. And, maybe some code to analyze the user's message, and sort certain responses to the top to let the operator find them quickly. And then a good searchable index, along with hierarchically categorized facts the operator can sift through. I bet they have categories like "orange man bad", "fauci good", "trump nepotism", "climate change", "believe womyn" etc...

Something like that could cause the kinda replies you had, where they smell of both human and robot.
35   CBOEtrader   2020 Oct 11, 3:10am  

komputodo says
Patrick says
As for my phone, I just never answer unless I know the person. If it's important, they will leave a message.

Has anyone considered how fucked up it is that a person doesn't even want to answer the phone anymore?


Im trying to change this with my chatbot insurance sales system :)

@Patrick, they got your number from voter records. Political, medical, and business to business calls can skip most TCPA limitations. (If your number is registered as a business line you will get more spam calls).

For all other calls, the calling company must check your number against databases to make sure its not a cellphone nor on national do not call list before calling you from 9 am to 8 pm. A cellphone can never be called or texted w/o permission.

Only landlines are allowed to be cold called. Ofc most telemarketers are usually dialing prospects who entered info into contact forms in some digital funnel.

Rules on these opt ins are super dicey. Consumer is allowed to take away permission, but many companies send user info to 6 or more individual brokers... So you're fucked.

I once tested a new gmail and google voice number with assurance.com 's (sold to prudential for $6B) callback system. I put this new info in their contact form and voila : about 500 calls/texts/voicemails/emails over next fee weeks... Every type of random spam you can think of from penis pills and mortage refinancing (the form was for health insurance).
37   Hircus   2020 Oct 11, 11:28am  

CBOEtrader says


Notice he ended it by getting in a subtle last word - "stay safe". He's trying to subliminally convince you the scamdemic is cause for constant daily fear & caution, which of course is congruent with their "orange man caused pandemic" narrative.
38   Patrick   2020 Oct 11, 12:48pm  

@CBOEtrader I love it. Was the Darth comment your own, or is this screenshot from somewhere else?
39   CBOEtrader   2020 Oct 11, 7:04pm  

Patrick says
@CBOEtrader I love it. Was the Darth comment your own, or is this screenshot from somewhere else?


That was my exchange w them :)
40   CBOEtrader   2020 Oct 11, 7:06pm  

CBOEtrader says
Im trying to change this with my chatbot insurance sales system :)


This is my busy season and the chatbot absolutely killed it today! $2 conversions! People hate phone calls. I refer to myself the No Call broker, and clients are loving it. I have 6 phone appointments (requested by the client) for tomorrow.

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