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Another Civil War?


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2020 Nov 5, 6:43pm   644 views  14 comments

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1   just_passing_through   2020 Nov 5, 6:55pm  

We've already been in one for the past 4 years it's just that there is no shooting (for the most part) yet just like China vs. USA. Only one side knows there is a war for some reason.
2   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 5, 7:01pm  

They might TikTok us to death.

3   steverbeaver   2020 Nov 6, 4:56am  

We have been in one for a long time, many decades it's just been "cold" with some flare-ups. Since exactly when I am not sure.
4   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 6, 5:05am  

Late 60s for sure. We had something of a pause on some fronts in some decades.

I remember in the 90s as a child of the 80s, laughing while reading about the insane 70s revolutionaries like the Weathermen and MOVE!

Now they are literally - not even figuratively - behind a coup.
5   steverbeaver   2020 Nov 6, 6:10am  

BLM is literally a communist organization. They literally have other branches whos name is "By Any Means Necessary". I concluded a while ago, I think under Obama, that the communists think they have amassed enough key positions and fodder to make their final push, a lot because they have been tolerated to act out in the open for some time now. They may be proven correct but I doubt it.
6   WookieMan   2020 Nov 6, 7:38am  

If we're talking a shooting civil war, what would be the strategies? I don't know if this is logical, but I'd take the midwest over. Basically squash IL and push the left to the coastal areas. Real estate values don't matter in war and you'd have pushed them against the wall (oceans). Have plenty of fresh water from the Great Lakes which would be a big problem during war on the West coast. And the Midwest, basically center and south of the country is red anyway, so it's an obvious quick way to gather like minds.

You'd have two fronts to fight on, which could be problematic. But on the West you have the Rockies as a natural barrier that makes moving ground troops tough. The heavy Dem areas are in the Northeast, so the land mass to block them off isn't as wide as the west coast, but easier to traverse. If it's a D vs. R thing we'd have also separated them. That would require air travel to move resources which could be shot down over the interior of the country.

Basically we'd have the best defensive position at minimum. Best resources between water, gas, oil and transportation with the Mississippi to get all these things north/south and in from the Gulf of Mexico.

Attack wise you decimate the West coats by bombing the reservoir dams and blockade any and all roadways/railways east of the Rockies. They'd surrender in a month with no water. No need to even shoot a person and it would likely only take 15-20 bombing flights. At that point the East Coast would likely give up. Worst case that's where the shooting war is. Oh and IL would probably be bloody as well in the initial take over.

Lol, I know nothing about war, but as I war game this, it kind of makes sense. X factor is they still have their ports, which could be bombed as well. They could bomb the river lifts on the Mississippi and stop transport on the water, but that would require flying over 1,000 miles of hostile territory. I don't know, I think this is a good strategy. You guys ready to take on IL and the center of the country to take it back? lol.. I got going and couldn't stop once the thought was in my head.
7   BoomAndBustCycle   2020 Nov 6, 7:47am  

You’d have to kill 45%-50% of the people in your own red states to win.... same by the blue would have to kill 45%-50% in there state.

Actually every city in the US would have to be destroyed to make it work.

This is not like the past where we had a clear Mason-Dixon Line dividing north and south. Any new civil war would require enslavement and genocide on a scale like no other. Sure, red states would have the guns to do it.... but killing little liberal children propaganda videos would end it quickly. Or atleast cause a liberal rebel uprising that makes the Mideast ongoing conflict look like child’s play.
8   RC2006   2020 Nov 6, 8:04am  

I don't see a civil war happening as long as the free shit can be pumped out.

@wookie if the West Coast was cut off what would stop outsiders like China coming in and supporting.

The only way would be a quick destruction of the large cities by nuke or other wmd which nobody is going to do.

This is a cancer that will slowly change the US. Decades of brainwashing, dumbing down, and dividing the population. Trump was a fluke that wasnt part of the plan.
9   WookieMan   2020 Nov 6, 8:18am  

RC2006 says
if the West Coast was cut off what would stop outsiders like China coming in and supporting.

They can't dock deep draft boats after the ports and harbors are bombed. No nukes needed. And is China gonna bring a bunch of fresh water after all the reservoirs are drained? It would be one of the most peaceful civil wars in my estimation. At least on the West coast with my strategy. The bombing runs would be tough obviously, but theirs would be exponentially harder given the land mass under control. IL would be the biggest pain to take over.

I'm just having fun thinking about it. Not predicting anything. Just thinking about it that if my "side" this time around wanted to start a civil war, how I'd go about it. Forgot about the agriculture aspect of it too with water. Jesus, the west coast from the Rockies West could be fucked up pretty quickly. Never thought about that. You land maybe a dozen well targeted missiles on the west coast, not even nukes or hitting civilians and our West Coast is fucked. Not having water to drink and for crops is an easy proposition if you think about it.
10   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 6, 8:23am  

The people most likely to fight for the left are skinny trust fund guys who never held a gun before or even took a punch to the face in their entire lives.
The rest are either fat cat middle aged DMV ladies or stupid blue haired college chicks.

When you control the hinterland, the cities are isolated fortress. It's pretty hard to Berlin Airlift NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, etc. because all the roads are closed, and all the food and 'stuff' is stored outside the expensive city center, in cheaper real estate in the outer city or countryside.
11   WookieMan   2020 Nov 6, 8:28am  

NoCoupForYou says
It's pretty hard to Berlin Airlift NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, etc. because all the roads are closed, and all the food and 'stuff' is stored outside the expensive city center, in cheaper real estate in the outer city or countryside.

Exactly. You don't have to kill 40-50% of the people. It's not about just killing people, it's about strategy.

Again, not saying this will ever happen, just a fun exercise and realizing that a massive part of our population is legit vulnerable if a small amount of targets are destroyed. I mean close to a 1/3rd of the countries population or more.
12   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 6, 8:56am  

Yep!

Cities can't last more than a few days without regular supplies, part of our conversion to the "Just in Time" Inventory policy in just about everything.

Even less because half the population can't make anything beyond ramen noodles. They wouldn't know how to gut and cook a rat if they caught one.
13   zzyzzx   2020 Nov 6, 9:01am  

WookieMan says
If we're talking a shooting civil war, what would be the strategies?


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14   HeadSet   2020 Nov 6, 10:54am  

No civil war will happen, but if it did it would look more like:

"Massive Power Failures in California due to Hacking"

"Fuel refineries shot down in Texas due to Hacking"

"Mexican Drug Cartel expands virtual government into southern California"

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