« prev   random   next »

4
0

Delaware County forgot to turn off the IP Cameras

By MisdemeanorRebel follow MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 5, 7:20pm 963 views   49 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    




Compare Delaware County, PA Offices:
https://delcopa.gov/vote/stream.html

Right down to the Green totes.

« First    « Previous    Comments 10 - 49 of 49    Last »

10   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Nov 5, 8:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

From twitter, he captured it by phone from his TV or Computer screen (you can hear Hannity in the background), but the stream is from the OP website:
https://delcopa.gov/vote/stream.html

It was like Dan Burnstein or some name like that, if you really want the original Twitter link. Just a person, not a streamer or commentator.
11   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 5, 9:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Unbelievable. Then again, not really
12   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Nov 5, 9:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I have sent a link to this post to the centrist news sites I could find that have a contact form that works without Google spying on it, or a plain contact email address!

I have all Google apis blocked, so more than half of all contact forms online don't work for me, because more than half of sites include Google ReCaptcha js.

That Google js can spy on everything on the page, change it, block it, whatever. It's just soooo wrong, so evil. And I think part of the Google/NSA plan is just for times like this, to suppress dissent.
13   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Nov 5, 9:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Christ, even the contact form on https://thedonald.win/ will not work without bending over for Google dick up the ass.

Why would anyone think that trusting a company that makes its money by collecting and selling your personal data is a good idea?
15   Karloff   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 5, 9:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The dems have been associated with election rigging for at least 60 years. I remember way back the old joke about "My father voted republican all his life. It wasn't until after he died that he started voting Democrat".

This is so blatant though. It's Broward County on a national scale. The system that would be used to prosecute something like this, is part of it.

I don't think most people have any idea of how bad this is and what it means for society. So many have been propagandized into thinking all claims of voter fraud are just nonsense conspiracy theory that come from Trump because he's losing. Yet there it is on video. There's the whistleblower from USPS. There's laughably unbelievable statistical anomalies in the results graphs.

These guys have had to cheat so much and on such a large scale that it's going to be impossible to cover it up. And if the legal system refuses to deal with it, then there's a good chance things collapse in a very ugly manner.
16   epitaph   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 5, 11:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"If you ain't cheating you ain't winning."

-sports guy
17   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2020 Nov 5, 11:14pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Hey guys, just giving you information.

This is totally legit video. It’s called “voter intent auditing”. It’s done on a bi-partisan basis by the election board when the ballots aren’t automatically read by machines.

The person across from her is reading the results to her. It’s a legal process when a machine can’t read a ballot.

Just dropping some facts on your conspiracy theories.
18   richwicks   ignore (4)   2020 Nov 5, 11:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
Hey guys, just giving you information.

This is totally legit video. It’s called “voter intent auditing”. It’s done on a bi-partisan basis by the election board when the ballots aren’t automatically read by machines.

The person across from her is reading the results to her.


I don't understand. How is filling in a ballot doing "voter intent auditing"?

It’s a legal process when a machine can’t read a ballot.

Just dropping some facts on your conspiracy theories.


You've not explained what is going on. You just gave it a name.

The idea that there isn't shenanigans going on is... naive. There obviously is. Poll observers have been kicked out their oversight positions based on their party affiliation. It's beneath you to call something a "conspiracy theory" when there is clearly a conspiracy going on. Conspiracies happen all the time - that what Russian Collusion would have been, a conspiracy, well - if there was any Russian Collusion anyhow.
19   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2020 Nov 5, 11:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Google “Determination Of Voter Intent”... there’s documents and process for every county on how to handle it.

In the one video above the guy in plaid appears to be reading a ballot to the other woman who is transferring it to a new ballot. Just saying there’s a legitimate reason to be doing what these people are doing in the videos. I’m not a poll worker... but it’s not guaranteed to be anything nefarious or to be a smoking gun for fraud.
20   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 5, 11:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They do seem to be casting or re-casting the ballots exclusively for Biden. Is something getting lost in the translation?
21   richwicks   ignore (4)   2020 Nov 5, 11:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
Google “Determination Of Voter Intent”... there’s documents and process for every county on how to handle it.


Nothing is more annoying then saying "there's a needle in that haystack. Go look! I know something you don't...."

But Fine - https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/docs/voterIntentGuide.pdf

BoomAndBustCycle says
In the one video above the guy in plaid appears to be reading a ballot to the other woman who is transferring it to a new ballot.


That doesn't explain why one person would, presumably, be reading off from one ballot, and another would be filling in another. What would make sense is to have the flawed ballot on one side, with the poll worker filling in a ballot on the other side. If two people are required, one should be observing and checking the poll worker's decision on filling in the second (replacement) ballot.

Anyhow - how many people can't fill in a circle? Didn't we all take the SAT and ACT tests?

What also doesn't make sense is why they would bother doing this unless there is a close race.

What also doesn't make sense - is why is a new ballot being filled out? Filling out a whole new ballot seems like a lot more work than just hand counting it.

So, even though government workers are the dumbest pieces of shit on the planet, I find it unlikely that they are even this dumb.
22   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Nov 6, 12:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
This is totally legit video. It’s called “voter intent auditing”. It’s done on a bi-partisan basis by the election board when the ballots aren’t automatically read by machines.


What state are you from? Post the Pennsylvania rules.

So many people think because some technicality is permitted in Colorado or California, it applies in Georgia or Pennsylvania.

In some states, anybody can watch the count, without any need for credentials or training. You can literally walk in right off the street, subject only to Fire Department building capacity.

BoomAndBustCycle says
This is totally legit video. It’s called “voter intent auditing”. It’s done on a bi-partisan basis by the election board when the ballots aren’t automatically read by machines.


One thing I absolutely fing guarantee is that PA has laws about this being done in front of observers. I don't see any Republican observers.

There is no way in a swing state that anybody can be "voter intent auditing" without a monitor. Not even GOPe Republicans are that naive.
23   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2020 Nov 6, 12:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
There is no way in a swing state that anybody can be "voter intent auditing" without a monitor. Not even GOPe Republicans are that naive.


Do they where a big shirt that says FRAUD MONITOR? Otherwise... anyone in that room could be the monitor.
24   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Nov 6, 1:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
Do they where a big shirt that says FRAUD MONITOR? Otherwise... anyone in that room could be the monitor.





I don't see anybody peering over their shoulder. Also, you're assuming that "Voter Intent" is what they are doing. You don't know.

What is suspicious is that it's nothing but top lines being filled in, that is clear,and guess who is one of the choices on the top line?

We also have the witness' testimony that 6 ballots previously were only filled out on the top line.\

Keep hope alive.
25   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Nov 6, 2:09am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Another angle, same man and woman, same process.

No observer in sight.
26   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Nov 6, 5:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I have said the Democrats incompetence was going to blow up in their face. When Trump has the facts and truth on his side, all the Democrats have is cheating and lies.
They can't keep building a house of lies, cheat, fraud, and dishonesty only but so high before it all comes crashing down. It has happened at every single plot to take down Trump they have tried. Because they never have facts and truth on their side.

The News desk reading a script and repeating what the producers say in their ear piece is not Truth and Facts.

This is only the surface of what's going to blow up in their faces, wait until the recount starts. There's going to be hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes erased from Joe Biden in many States. It is going to get so bad, the whole election will be scraped.

That's my confident prediction.
27   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Nov 6, 5:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

If the Democrats were murderers, they would carry a dead body through a hotel lobby rolled up in a rug, during their business hour.
That's the perception I get from the Democrats from this whole saga since Trump got elected. They just aren't crafty, that makes you wonder how they pulled anything off. They constantly go for picking up the crow bar smashing the window, without gloves, and discarding the crowbar by the front door once they have gained entry.
28   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 6, 5:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The fuck? There shouldn't be an ink pen in the god damn room! Nothing you can mark a ballot with. I chose not to vote for POTUS in '16, so now I come to find out there's people like this that could have marked in my fucking vote even though I wanted to abstain? There are a lot out there like me that will choose not to vote for certain things. Could be as high as 5%. Maybe that's where the fraud is occurring on legit ballots.

"Oh, looks like there's a bit of ink there for Clinton (I abstained), looks like this guy voted for her."

It will cost a lot, but there needs to be email, text or letter mailed verification of your vote. Like who you voted for, not just that you voted. This is insane.
29   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 6, 6:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
I chose not to vote for POTUS in '16, so now I come to find out there's people like this that could have marked in my fucking vote even though I wanted to abstain?


Always write-in Mickey Mouse for the races you are abstaining from.
30   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 6, 6:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
WookieMan says
I chose not to vote for POTUS in '16, so now I come to find out there's people like this that could have marked in my fucking vote even though I wanted to abstain?


Always write-in Mickey Mouse for the races you are abstaining from.

Actually a good idea. lol.

If you're voting age and cannot fill out a ballot correctly, it is was it is. A 3rd party cannot "think" that's what you meant. Maybe I've been naive and obviously didn't realize this was a practice, but it's fucked up.
31   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2020 Nov 6, 8:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

If the Democrats were murderers, they would carry a dead body through a hotel lobby rolled up in a rug, during their business hour.

Correct, but not because they are stupid. They know (A) They will not be prosecuted, and (B) It sends a visible message to anyone else who would cross them. Think Seth Rich.
32   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 6, 9:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Like Wookie said there should be no pens in that room, only a few piles, valid votes by candidate and invalid votes. No pen needed.
33   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 6, 9:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

mell says
Like Wookie said there should be no pens in that room, only a few piles, valid votes by candidate and invalid votes. No pen needed.

I don't even like the idea of another human physically touching my ballot. Not sure everyone else's system, but I throw mine in the scanner and it's gone. I didn't realize people could fucking touch the damn thing. It should have read the data, while not being connected to the internet, and one data dump done at the end of the night. If someone didn't fill it out right, fuck them. I could hand my 7 year old son a ballot and tell him to pick one person and he'd fill it out correctly.

I'm not upset if Trump loses. These last few days have been eye opening though. The bigger part of it scares me. Why? Why Biden? 1+1 isn't adding up to 2. It's not even division at this point. It's almost like they want us all to become conspiracy theorist and question everything. Nothing is true, but nothing is wrong. It's a weird feeling with an obvious Orwellian vibe.
34   G36   ignore (8)   2020 Nov 6, 9:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
mell says
Like Wookie said there should be no pens in that room, only a few piles, valid votes by candidate and invalid votes. No pen needed.

I don't even like the idea of another human physically touching my ballot. Not sure everyone else's system, but I throw mine in the scanner and it's gone. I didn't realize people could fucking touch the damn thing. It should have read the data, while not being connected to the internet, and one data dump done at the end of the night. If someone didn't fill it out right, fuck them. I could hand my 7 year old son a ballot and tell him to pick one person and he'd fill it out correctly.

I'm not upset if Trump loses. These last few days have been eye opening though. The bigger part of it scares me. Why? Why Biden? 1+1 isn't adding up to 2. It's not even division at this point. It's almost like they want us all to become conspiracy theorist and ...


exactly. Eye opening for me as well. I had no idea its so easy to cheat. The current counting system screams for cheating. This all needs to be re-done with observers present and validation of every single vote.
35   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2020 Nov 6, 9:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
There's going to be hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes erased from Joe Biden in many States. It is going to get so bad, the whole election will be scraped.


I am afraid I can't agree. They will destroy the evidence before any outside auditing authority gets near it. They've done it before.
36   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2020 Nov 6, 11:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TrumpingTits says
Tenpoundbass says
There's going to be hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes erased from Joe Biden in many States. It is going to get so bad, the whole election will be scraped.


I am afraid I can't agree. They will destroy the evidence before any outside auditing authority gets near it. They've done it before.



Were there any repercussions at all for what happened in 2016 Orange County?
37   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Nov 6, 11:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

G36 says
exactly. Eye opening for me as well. I had no idea its so easy to cheat. The current counting system screams for cheating. This all needs to be re-done with observers present and validation of every single vote.



If they pull it off, there will never be any true reform.

They'll pull the usual "serious fixes" that are just little band aids deliberately made token and ineffective.

The only vote that will matter is the Dem Primary Process, and as a private enterprise, will be maximally rigged just like it was this time.
38   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 6, 11:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

G36 says
This all needs to be re-done with observers present and validation of every single vote.

It's too late though. That ballot has now been manipulated and you'd have no clue in a stack of thousands to maybe hundreds of thousands. You'd have to verify it with the original voter, which has issues of its own, but you cannot undue what you see in the video with our current system. That's the problem. It's manipulated, no one can argue against that. Pen hit paper on a ballot.

I frankly didn't know there were individuals, touching individual ballots like that. I figured the machine ate it and they'd send the results digitally and then throw the stack in the machine again to verify at a central location. Taking ballots one by one is pure bullshit. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention in 2000 as I wasn't old enough to vote. This is wild.
39   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 6, 11:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
You'd have to verify it with the original voter, which has issues of its own, but you cannot undue what you see in the video with our current system. That's the problem. It's manipulated, no one can argue against that. Pen hit paper on a ballot.


Basically, these old and oft-derided voting machines which were physically punching holes through the ballots turned out to be more secure than this "mark with a pen -> feed to the scanner" model which was promoted as a fix to "hanging chads".
40   theoakman   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 6, 11:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It's too late to find the vote. It's not too late to arrest her ass.
41   Cdon2   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 17, 8:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Note to file – this looks like some curative step where the machine cannot read ballots so the best practice is to hand copy and re-feed the new ballots into the machine with watchers in the room. From the wider shot it looks like there are red bins for republican, blue bins for democrat, and green bins for cured. It thus makes sense that a blue to green table will show nothing but Biden votes, and that red to green will show nothing but trump votes. There also appear to be plenty of potential watchers (both partisan and non partisan) in the room which is likely within the rules.

Vanessa, please find the source and vet but at first glance, I am not seeing much here to worry about.
42   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Nov 17, 9:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Cdon2 says
From the wider shot it looks like there are red bins for republican, blue bins for democrat, and green bins for cured.


So from your own statement, it appears all of the red bins are on the floor, and on tables out of the way nobody is working on, and only Blue bins are on the table being "Cured" and tossed in the Green Bin.

Spin that Flyboy!
43   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Nov 17, 9:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Also based on your explanation, it now appears the guy on the bottom right is taking votes out of the "RED" bin and curing them and placing them in the "Blue" bin to be cleaned up by the folks taking them from the "Blue" bins and curing them in the "Green" bins.
44   Cdon2   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 17, 9:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

And here we go. It is curative, straight from the County:

https://www.delcopa.gov/publicrelations/releases/2020/ballotvideoresponse.html

"Some ballots were damaged by the extractor during this process in such a way that the ballots could not be scanned successfully. According to the scanner manufacturer, Hart, the best practice to deal with damaged ballots that cannot be scanned is to transcribe the votes on each ballot to a clean ballot and scan the clean ballot. In accordance with that guidance, the Chief Clerk of the Delaware County Bureau of Elections instructed elections staff to manually transcribe the damaged ballots. As ballots were being transcribed, the original damaged ballots were directly beside the new ballots and bipartisan observers witnessed the process at close range. Damaged ballots have been preserved."

Team, please confirm with the county that nothing has changed since then, but if we went in with this video and the county defends with affidavits confirming their press report, the judge is going to look at us and say "what do you want me to do now" we would mount a valiant but feeble response, and get sent packing with not only a "L" for the client but a bill for the county legal fees and a malpractice claim for us. Obviously this cannot happen so lets do our homework!
45   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Nov 17, 9:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Cdon2 says
but if we went in with this video and the county defends with affidavits confirming their press report, the judge is going to look at us and say "what do you want me to do now"


I'm afraid that would be the case with any evidence presented.
Also I have maintained since the beginning, that if this is a Criminal endeavor, then I don't want a Court that rules on the legality of the process ruling on this election. Because I do agree with you. Asking the judge to play Lt Frank Colombo, isn't going to happen. They are going to follow the letter of the law in the confined scope of determining if the election was lawful. And it appears SCOTUS doesn't split hairs over dirty fights, and dirty dishonest tricks to sway the election one way or the other.

But if Crimes were committed, and sedition and treason can be determined. This shouldn't be a State, or SCOTUS fight, it should be a Law Enforcement fight.

The only thing I would want SCOTUS to rule on at that point, would be how do we move on past here, with this unprecedented election where the candidates and the DNC election machine incarcerated after the election.


We're turning into one of those countries where the new elected leader gets elected and is sent to jail, but the judge says he still gets to rule from his prison cell.
46   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Nov 17, 10:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The election should be nullified as there is zero confidence in it. Trump would remain president until there is a safe and auditable way to run an election. This should be the judgement. If the states refuse to cooperate/comply, then the Republican legislatures should send electors and Trump wins another term. Of course "should" doesn't mean it will happen or that it has a high chance, but it's funny that we're discussing technicalities here when it's crystal clear this was a fraudulent election.
47   Cdon2   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 17, 12:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
I'm afraid that would be the case with any evidence presented.


Not necessarily. With my budget I am not going to rely on just the press release. I am going to contact the county clerk (a fellow officer of the court) and confirm this is press release is accurate. With an unlimited budget I would not rely on the press release and the statement of the county clerk and instead track down the parties in that room and get a statement from them, do a follow up or two, and ask them to execute an affidavit under penalty of perjury if need be. Not sure but because this is at the curative phase there likely is a D attorney and R attorney somewhere in there (per agreed upon rules) who absolutely would note any irregularities (in real time), and who must show the provenance of what they did and when they did it.

For what its worth, Ive done that job as a poll challenger (not as a poll watcher but a poll challenger) before as a young associate. Myself and the other counsel would make a joint statement as to what we expect of the volunteers in the room. We likely will remind them that there are cameras in the room and if there are any irregularities they are going to be found so it serves in their best interest to report to us so we can document the issue. I did this in the pre-social media, ubitiquous coverage of everything is then processed by either the D or R media as proof of problems (or proof of accuracy depending what side you are on). At the end of the day you have to accept that there is a certain amount of good will (or fear of repercussions) which will give you the best outcome you can reasonably expect.
48   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 18, 6:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Cdon2 says
Ive done that job as a poll challenger

Democrat or Republican?
49   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2020 Nov 18, 7:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Cdon2 says
Not sure but because this is at the curative phase there likely is a D attorney and R attorney somewhere in there (per agreed upon rules) who absolutely would note any irregularities (in real time), and who must show the provenance of what they did and when they did it.


Listen let me tell about me and my town Broward county, so you don't toss "R" and "D" around like it instills confidence in me that everything is on the up and up.

Our Republican party in Broward only exists for two reasons. To raise money for the party, and ensure the Democrats hold power in Broward, and Debbie Wassermann Schultz's dynasty does not get interrupted.

DWS had a Jamaican American candidate, and had an opponent, that should have made Carla Spalding a household name. The Republicans didn't spend one single dime on her, to make a video much like Kimberly Klacik had in Baltimore. A video of DWS telling the Congress police "You better return my Paki spy server or there will be serious consequences." DWS kept her head down all through the election because the Broward RNC never gives her an opponent that puts up a fight much less makes any waves for DWS.
This has been happening for 2 decades now.

Mitt Romney is an "R" do you think he would point out any voting irregularities if he were the poll watcher lawyer?

I sure as hell don't!

« First    « Previous    Comments 10 - 49 of 49    Last »


about   best comments   contact   one year ago   suggestions