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Federal lawsuit seeks to throw out 1.2M votes, flipping Michigan for Trump
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2020 Nov 12, 10:20am 480 views 9 comments
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Eric Holder
2020 Nov 12, 10:21am
Eric Holder
2020 Nov 12, 10:21am
It's a long shot as throwing out 1.2M votes won't be easy for any judge.
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WookieMan
2020 Nov 12, 11:14am
WookieMan
2020 Nov 12, 11:14am
Eric Holder says
Evidence. If it's there it's no problem.
I'm not counting on any of this though, and I'm just prepared for a Biden lame duck presidency. There's nothing I can personally do to help Trump at this point, so I'm going in with the worst case scenario. We'll see how they vote, or if they're trojan horses, but ACB getting in should prevent any severe fuckery from the Dems in SCOTUS. Nothing is gonna happen in the next 2 years with Biden or Harris and the House will flip. They will get nothing done and be a 1 term office IF they get in.
It's a long shot as throwing out 1.2M votes won't be easy for any judge.
Evidence. If it's there it's no problem.
I'm not counting on any of this though, and I'm just prepared for a Biden lame duck presidency. There's nothing I can personally do to help Trump at this point, so I'm going in with the worst case scenario. We'll see how they vote, or if they're trojan horses, but ACB getting in should prevent any severe fuckery from the Dems in SCOTUS. Nothing is gonna happen in the next 2 years with Biden or Harris and the House will flip. They will get nothing done and be a 1 term office IF they get in.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 12, 11:26am
Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 12, 11:26am
You can't throw out votes and think you've corrected a corrupt election. What about all of the down ticket elections that were most likely robbed. I want a full audit of our whole voting system, in every State. I want the Voter Corruption Fraud Training team that is the Broward County board of electors, They are the National DNC Huckster Training operation. They test corruption her before they ship it off to other states in the next elections.
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ignoreme
2020 Nov 12, 11:27am
WookieMan says
What piece of evidence is missing at this point? You have data analysis of multiple irregular patterns in the votes themselves. You have poll watchers not being able to properly observe the counting in violation of the law. With what could be observed you have vote counters not checking signatures, votes being scanned multiple times, boxes of ballots delivered at 4 am all for Biden. You have mail carriers instructed to back date ballots. You have multi vote flip “glitches” already discovered, all for Biden, with no reasonable explanation.
I’m a reasonable guy. On Saturday my position was let’s accept Biden won and beat him next time. But every day I become more convinced there’s not going to be a next time. If they can cheat at this level and get away with it there will never be another anti establishment president again.
Evidence. If it's there it's no problem
What piece of evidence is missing at this point? You have data analysis of multiple irregular patterns in the votes themselves. You have poll watchers not being able to properly observe the counting in violation of the law. With what could be observed you have vote counters not checking signatures, votes being scanned multiple times, boxes of ballots delivered at 4 am all for Biden. You have mail carriers instructed to back date ballots. You have multi vote flip “glitches” already discovered, all for Biden, with no reasonable explanation.
I’m a reasonable guy. On Saturday my position was let’s accept Biden won and beat him next time. But every day I become more convinced there’s not going to be a next time. If they can cheat at this level and get away with it there will never be another anti establishment president again.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 12, 11:28am
Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 12, 11:28am
The Democrats need the depressing deep humiliation by creating the precedence that they are such Horrible Rotten Miserable Scumbag People that an entire National Election had to be redone because of them. I want that to stick with them for eternity. this isn't an Oops moment, it's a "Good Bye Mother Fuckers!" moment.
Scrap the 2020 election, Do it Over!
Scrap the 2020 election, Do it Over!
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joshuatrio
2020 Nov 12, 11:37am
joshuatrio
2020 Nov 12, 11:37am
ignoreme says
This.
I’m a reasonable guy. On Saturday my position was let’s accept Biden won and beat him next time. But every day I become more convinced there’s not going to be a next time. If they can cheat at this level and get away with it there will never be another anti establishment president again.
This.
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WookieMan
2020 Nov 12, 11:38am
WookieMan
2020 Nov 12, 11:38am
ignoreme says
We're in agreement here. I think judges will have a say in this. I don't trust all of them though and it's state by state. Trump needs multiple states seemingly at this point. Evidence has to be rock solid and not just pointing out anomalies is my larger point. There was cheating, but what's the scale of it.
But every day I become more convinced there’s not going to be a next time. If they can cheat at this level and get away with it there will never be another anti establishment president again.
We're in agreement here. I think judges will have a say in this. I don't trust all of them though and it's state by state. Trump needs multiple states seemingly at this point. Evidence has to be rock solid and not just pointing out anomalies is my larger point. There was cheating, but what's the scale of it.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 12, 11:44am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 12, 11:44am
State Legislatures can pick the electors.
Judges may offer that as a best Remedy, since it's the most democratic way of proceeding if the election was irrevokably fucked up.
Judges may offer that as a best Remedy, since it's the most democratic way of proceeding if the election was irrevokably fucked up.
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Ceffer
2020 Nov 12, 4:29pm
Ceffer
2020 Nov 12, 4:29pm
On the issues of 'facts not in evidence' and 'timeliness' judges tend to be harsh (of course, activist judges that don't follow law are different but can be appealed). They should have no problem at all throwing out the shit that is not on time and does not meet the legal standards and those thrown out items cease to exist as far as legal decision making is concerned. Judges do it all the time.
Trump earned 147,000 fewer votes than Democrat Joe Biden in Michigan, according to unofficial election results that are being certified this month by county canvassing boards. The new lawsuit seeks to eliminate ballots cast in Wayne, Washtenaw and Ingham counties, which would amount to 1.2 million votes, giving Trump the lead in Michigan.
Birmingham attorney Maxwell Goss and Indiana attorney James Bopp Jr. are representing plaintiffs in the lawsuit. Bopp serves as a campaign adviser to Trump. He was an Indiana delegate for Trump in 2016 and served as a legal adviser for George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.
The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan, cites an assortment of allegations made by the Trump campaign, Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel, right-wing media organizations and ongoing lawsuits filed since the election.
Plaintiffs also cite ongoing investigations launched by the Michigan Legislature and a variety of other claims that have been debunked. The allegations include charges of Republican ballot challengers being harassed and illegal tampering with ballots.
Plaintiffs conclude that “this evidence suffices to place in doubt the November 3 presidential election results in identified counties and/or the state as a whole.” However, the group of voters also claims to have additional evidence of illegal ballots being included in unofficial results, based on “expert reports" and data analysis.
“Upon information and belief, the expert report will identify persons who cast votes illegally by casting multiple ballots, were deceased, had moved, or were otherwise not qualified to vote in the November 3 presidential election, along with evidence of illegal ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting, and other illegal voting,” the lawsuit states.
At least one of several other Michigan lawsuits making similar allegations has been thrown out for lack of evidence and other flaws.
Oakland County residents Lena Bally and Gavriel Grossbard, Eaton County resident Carol Hatch and Jackson County resident Steven Butler are listed as plaintiffs in the new federal lawsuit. Grossbard was a Republican candidate for Michigan’s 9th Congressional District, but lost in the August primary.
The lawsuit names as defendants Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and members of the Michigan State Board of Canvassers, Wayne County Board of Canvassers, Washtenaw County Board of Canvassers and Ingham County Board of Canvassers.
Plaintiffs are seeking to exclude votes from Wayne, Washtenaw and Ingham counties. They argue that including results from counties “where sufficient illegal ballots were included” would unconstitutionally cause legal votes to be “diluted.”
Biden earned 838,425 votes from the three counties, according to unofficial results, while Trump earned 398,030 votes.
If these 1.2 million votes were not included in Michigan’s final results, then Trump would hold a 293,405-vote lead over Biden.
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2020/11/federal-lawsuit-seeks-to-throw-out-12m-votes-flipping-michigan-for-trump.html