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'Road Charge' could replace California gas tax

By FuckCCP89 follow FuckCCP89   2020 Nov 19, 6:41pm 219 views   13 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Around 80% of highway and road repairs are funded by a tax on gasoline charged at the pump when you buy gas. The current gas tax is over 50 cents a gallon, with the average driver paying $280 each year.

Right now, people who drive electric and other fuel-efficient cars contribute less money for road and highway repairs than people who drive less fuel-efficient cars, even though all vehicles cause wear and tear to California’s roadways and contribute to road congestion, according to Caltrans.

To make up for the falling revenue, the state is looking at a program that would charge drivers a fee for each mile they drive.

"Ideally, it’s based on miles driven and not size of the vehicle or make of the vehicle, that is the most equitable feature, is regardless of your experience on the transportation system, we want to make sure we come up with a plan that makes it fair for everybody," said Caltrans spokesman Chris Clark.

How much and how that money would be collected is part of a pilot study in which Caltrans is seeking volunteers to provide feedback.

"With this pilot program, we’ll analyze ways to do that, that range from the pay-at-the-pump system that they are used to, but they’d be paying for miles instead of the gas, but they’d still pay at the pump, or as some insurance companies have already explored, having them pay by the miles that they drive," Clark said.


https://www.kcra.com/article/road-charge-could-replace-california-gas-tax/34726215
1   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 19, 6:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I believe they will try to impose that shit. What I don't believe is that it will replace the gas tax. It will "supplement" the fucking gas tax.
2   RC2006   ignore (2)   2020 Nov 19, 6:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Expect mileage cheated and wrong on lots of cars.
3   REpro   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 19, 7:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Every new idea in CA ends up with collection more money and roads are still looks same.

FuckCCP89 says
I believe they will try to impose that shit. What I don't believe is that it will replace the gas tax. It will "supplement" the fucking gas tax.
4   Dholliday126   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 19, 7:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

That thing would be on the next year proposition ballot and repealed like a red headed step child.
5   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 19, 9:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

RC2006 says
Expect mileage cheated and wrong on lots of cars.


Yep. I used to have a car with manual transmission prone to eating speed sensors every year or two. The only things that affected were speedometer and odometer, nothing else. It would be annoying to drive w/o speedo all the time but nowadays you can use your phone or a standalone gps unit for that.

It's not so simple with automatics though - these things need that speed sensor info for shifting, as far as I understand.
6   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 19, 9:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Dholliday126 says
That thing would be on the next year proposition ballot and repealed like a red headed step child.


Or not. Gas tax repeal flopped due to clever wording (and voter stupidity).
7   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 19, 11:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

REpro says
Every new idea in CA ends up with collection more money and roads are still looks same.


Well, they did repair some stretches of freeway recently, so some money is being spent on the roads.
8   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2020 Nov 20, 6:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Dholliday126 says
That thing would be on the next year proposition ballot and repealed like a red headed step child.


I am sure they stop the vote counting, then bring in enough truckloads of "mail in" votes to counter any repeal votes.....
9   georgeliberte   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 20, 6:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

SO a switch to electric vehicles (a State goal) worked; but they still want the money.
10   clambo   ignore (5)   2020 Nov 20, 12:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

California will simply charge drivers a fee based on the average use in the zip codes.

It will start at 1,000 miles/month and go up.

This is not going to replace the gasoline tax, rather supplement it.

I’m outta here.
11   TrumpingTits   ignore (4)   2020 Nov 20, 1:03pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They have raided the gas tax fund so why won't they raid this too?

If they hadn't raided that fund, there would have been enough money collected as far back as 25 years ago to rebuild all the roads in CA 3 times over.

Fuck them.
12   everything   ignore (1)   2020 Nov 20, 5:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They already did this in my little midwest democratic strong hold capital city, but not the whole state, when you yearly register their is an extra 40 and 25 dollar fee for 65 dollars per car per year. EV fuel costs is about 1/3 gas, and TCO should be headed down on the EV. The government doesn't know how to milk the money, incentivizing on the front end, then taxing you for going green besides.
13   Misc   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 20, 9:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They will require more mandatory surveillance technology on vehicles, drivers and passengers (that way a person can't just Uber/Lyft his way out of the extra taxes). Just ignore where the funds are actually spent.

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