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How easy it was to hack the vote

By Patrick follow Patrick   2020 Nov 30, 5:48pm 536 views   49 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    



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10   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Nov 30, 7:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
Fortwaynemobile says
That’s longest projection ever. Do you even hear your bias there?

I admit that I have a reality bias. Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories. This site is so biased against reality that I am dumbfounded that actual adults post this shit. Pull your heads out of your arses.


You have no reality bias, you have left wing bias, I heard all your points word for word from other cnn watchers before. Lefts propaganda works well. It’s all same points, because they find bottom dweller and represent him as voice for Republicans, which isn’t reality.

If you want evidence. Evidence, go watch Pennsylvania hearing and Arizona hearing. That evidence was made public. All those witnesses are not Russian crisis actors working for Putin. They are Americans who saw wrong and spoke up.

We dealt with 4 years man, 4 years of insults and impeachment because one bitch named Hillary didn’t get “her turn”. They were willing to ensnare America and burn it down in order to win elections. I’m tired of what Democrats are doing to America.
11   theoakman   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 30, 8:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Here's the problem with your argument about partisan nonsense. She played a clip from a liberal newcast. 2 years ago.
12   Shake85   ignore (0)   2020 Nov 30, 8:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
Fortwaynemobile says
That’s longest projection ever. Do you even hear your bias there?

I admit that I have a reality bias. Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories. This site is so biased against reality that I am dumbfounded that actual adults post this shit.

I think most of the adults who post this shit are being disingenuous and don't believe it themselves. It serves other purposes than trying to get to any kind of truth.
13   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2020 Dec 1, 6:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
non-partisan sources. The vote wasn't hacked, Trump lost fairly and squarely. If you believe Newmax then you must also be a flat earther, young earther, creationist, anti-vaxer, moon landing hoaxer, birther and whatever other non-evidence based conspiracy theory out there.

If you can't argue the facts attack the person.

Do you really believe that Trump got more popular votes than anyone else in any previous presidential election? I do.
14   richwicks   ignore (4)   2020 Dec 1, 7:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Shake85 says
I think most of the adults who post this shit are being disingenuous and don't believe it themselves. It serves other purposes than trying to get to any kind of truth.


No, not for me anyhow. I was an ardent hater of George W. Bush when he lied us into a war. I was a supporter of Ron Paul in 2008, I even wrote him personally in 2006 and asked him to run for president (certain I wasn't the only one) and I donated the full federal maximum to him simply because he was one of the very few people in Congress that criticized that war and consistently spoke out against it.

He was shut out, and that's when I knew the primary system was rigged.

Obama talked a good game but I looked at his record, he supported funding for the Iraq war every time. I knew he was full of it and expected him to be almost as bad as Bush and continue his policies. He was worse, he expanded the wars.

So Clinton runs, she's every bit as bad as Obama PLUS she voted for the Iraq War. I couldn't freaking believe that SHE of all people was selected to run but Trump was also running, an unknown. Probably he wouldn't get anywhere maybe he was running just to improve his brand, but at least he wasn't another George W. Bush - maybe, Clinton was.

When he won, I was genuinely surprised, and happy - at least it wasn't another Neocon warmonger fuck - MAYBE. It was hope! When he attempted to close down Syria, I was delighted. When he consistently spoke out against Syria and Afghanistan and tried to close both, I really liked him. And he was CONSTANTLY attacked. All the lies from the MSM... Just disgusting. Never ending. Immediately Russian Collusion - how silly, like we're morons - I knew that originated from Clinton and several times people in the DNC were calling Russia "the Soviets" - like that collapsed 1/4 century ago.

He's a racist, he's a bigot here's this he's that - they did the same thing to Ron Paul. They do this to anybody that they want to get rid of. Just recently "Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent" - seriously - are people that dumb to believe this nonsense? Trump talked about the "Deep State", something I've heard of and pretty much concluded existed which is why Obama's policies were the same as Bush's - any important policies anyhow. This is why Nancy Pelosi didn't impeach Bush when she could have in 2006 - there was VERY widespread support for that. I supported that.

Then she tried to impeach Trump - over what? Not lying this nation into a war.. He allegedly demanded that Ukraine investigate corruption in order to receive 1 billion dollars in aid, it just happened that Biden was corrupt. I knew he was corrupt I think in 2014 when I heard his son got onto the BOD of Burisma. So, Trump was being impeached for... doing the right thing. FIRST PRESIDENT IN DECADES trying to do that. If Trump did what he was accused of GOOD! Good for him. Finally a politician trying to go after another politician for corruption. Wow, haven't seen that in, what, 40 years? Think it happened a few times under Reagan.

So we had 3 years of trying to remove Trump any way possible, we had our intelligence agencies lying nonstop about Russian Collusion and all the evidence they supposedly had. I heard Adam Schiff lie about transcripts and lie on MSNBC every day - didn't work. So riots show up in the United States - supposedly over the murder of George Floyd. They are encouraged by the DNC, they burn, loot, murder - nobody in Antifa or BLM face any charges for their crimes or if they are arrested (rarely) they are let go. This looks suspiciously like yet another CIA coup attempt and that's what I think it was. They did the same crap in Operation Ajax I know. They did the same in Ukraine.

So - did I expect a free and fair election? No. Of course not and we didn't get one. Biden didn't get the largest vote in history. This is ballot fraud. There are bell weather countries that for like the last 100 years, they predicted the outcome - whatever the majority of those counties vote for, that's who wins. It's been true forever except when Kennedy "won" which many people think was a stolen election. In any case, Biden won ONE of these counties out of more than 15. I think the number is 18 but... Whatever.

There's tons of videos showing up on youtube about how pollwatchers are denied access - these videos are removed - censored. I was up that night, and it was pretty clear that Trump was going to win, and then I wake up and look at the graph of the vote count, Biden gets these HUGE dumps of like 100,000 ballots and almost no Trump ballots. Statistically very unlikely. And the jump is like in 1 hour, AFTER they closed the polls. Dominion's office in Toronto apparently disappears. Pelosi and whatever the other bitch if from California (Feinstein?) both have their hands in it, it's rumored. There's lots more rumors, some seem very credible - some obviously far fetched which I ignored.

We are going through a coup, and I'm not being disingenuous with that. Coups happen. Our deep state is desperate to remove Trump, and I'm delighted he's fucking up their plans. Surprised he hasn't been assassinated yet, but there have been a few attempts - NOT reported in our "news". I think he won in a landslide, like 65% to 75% of the vote. He's not perfect, but holy shit, he's an improvement over Obama for anything I cared about and a lot of things I didn't initially care about. He's made his case about illegal immigration to me. He has good points. He's made his case about bringing back manufacturing, he's right.

What is Biden running on? A return to Obama and George W. Bush? Fuck that, I hated those assholes.
15   Shaman   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 8:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Assholes like Astro think they’re smart because they can repeat MSM talking points, but since they aren’t intellectually capable of rational information analysis, they consider every other perspective as conspiracy theory. While simultaneously ignoring the fact that the MSM promoted the biggest and most widely debunked conspiracy theory ever: Russian Collusion!
These people are so smart, they’re absolute morons. Can’t be fixed.
17   rocketjoe79   ignore (1)   2020 Dec 1, 9:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
Newsmax and OAN are not even remotely reliable non-partisan sources. The vote wasn't hacked, Trump lost fairly and squarely. If you believe Newmax then you must also be a flat earther, young earther, creationist, anti-vaxer, moon landing hoaxer, birther and whatever other non-evidence based conspiracy theory out there. You BS detector is broken Patrick. When this was mainly a real estate site, this webpage was interesting, but now it's just a bunch for far right winged nonsense not based in reality.


Some information, even from untrustworthy sites, may be true. The MSM is so terrible, they have forced non-liberals to seek other news sources. Some will be nutjob rants. Some will be no worse than MSM lies and propaganda. It's up to ME to sort this out. Not Twitter, not Facebook, not WaPo or the NYT. If they were still reporting FACTS and not opinions, I would read them more.

This is also the reason Rumble and Parler have gained popularity. Liberals are already clutching their pearls about not being able to "control the message" on these sites. Parler was the biggest Apple App Store Download recently. They should be scared. I'm happy: I want opinions that aren't pre-arranged for my consumption. Will there be crazy shit and false narratives at these places? Sure. Don't worry, I'll figure it out. Just like I figured out the MSM lies about 100% of the time.

Today, I just read EVERYTHING with the attitude: "What is this article/paper/study trying to get me to believe?" It's a good start for skeptical folks everywhere.
18   Rb6d   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 9:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

theoakman says
Here's the problem with your argument about partisan nonsense. She played a clip from a liberal newcast. 2 years ago.

he-he...right to the dome
19   bdrasin   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 10:03am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

From Erick Erickson on Twitter:

Might as well start up the nightly bag of hatemail with some blunt truths. I say this as a supporter and donor of the President's re-election effort. A lot of his core supporters, who've never contributed a penny to his campaign, will blast me as NeverTrump, but…

According to the Trump World narrative, the President was failed by multiple chiefs of staff, his first attorney general, and now his second.
The Durham investigation that would expose everything is exposing nothing, not even itself. But just you wait and see!

The Trump controlled Department of Justice and Trump controlled FBI are in on stealing the election from their boss along with possibly the CIA and now Fox News whose accurate call of Arizona was right, but hurt feelings by coming too soon.

The Republican governors of Georgia and Arizona and the Republican legislators of Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are in on picking the infrastructure that stole the election and will do nothing to stop it.


The Republican Party in Georgia is unable to get the Republican Governor, Lt. Gov., Secretary of State, or Attorney General to act to do the President's bidding, so they all must be in cahoots with Stacey Abrams who they all dislike.

Dominion Voting Systems handed the vote to Donald Trump in all the counties in which their machines were used in Pennsylvania, but was in on the act of stealing the election there and elsewhere.

The paper ballot votes in Georgia aligned with the Dominion Voter Systems machine count so that is proof the election was stolen, as were the disproportionate use of absentee ballots by Democrats when Trump said not to use them and Biden said to use them.

The lawsuits being filed by President Trump's team are all being tossed from court, often by the judges the President himself picked. The lawyers have failed him. So have his judges and courts.

Maybe it is all a grand conspiracy or maybe, just maybe, and this is a wild idea, but maybe the man who said he hired the best people didn't and that ultimately means that he's not actually very good at picking the right people. But wait…there's more.

For the sake of argument, let's suppose that the Attorney General, who previously served as Attorney General for George H. W. Bush, is actually a highly competent individual and John Durham is too.
But both have been unable to deliver results that would expose the deep state conspiracy against the President -- the one that also involved the DOJ, FBI, and CIA stealing the election from the President with the help of Republican governors and legislators.

And there are a bunch of courtiers to the Trump Administration who've been assuring us that just you wait, it is all going to be exposed and people are going to jail and the deep state house of cards is collapsing.

Maybe…and I know this might just blow your mind…but maybe what if you've been lied to the whole time. There is no conspiracy . There is no theft of the election. The President hired highly competent people, but it is him, not them, that is the problem.

And then maybe, just maybe, because it is him, not them, that is the problem, ultimately it is really you who are the problem because you so willingly got played and even now want to be played because now you're emotionally invested in a cause and a candidate and…

…to admit you were played and he lost and there was no deep state conspiracy or theft of the election would actually make you look bad. So it's better to double down on the lies and bullshit and blame everyone else …

from the Trump appointed AG to the Trump appointed FBI Director to the Trump appointed CIA Director to various Trump endorsed Governors to the GOP establishment to corporate America, the Carlyle Group, the Rothschilds, the Russians, and the Chinese.

Maybe Hillary Clinton was so deeply disliked that Trump could beat her and if he'd not flubbed his first debate, not had so many insane tweets, and not handled the viral situation as he had, he could have beaten Biden. But voters got exhausted and chose to move on.

Or, who knows, maybe the deep state stole it and, if so, using the same machines in 4 years, good luck running Trump again.
20   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Dec 1, 10:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Erickson only jumped on the train when he was almost totally irrelevant. There weren't enough NeverTrumpers or Lenin Projectors to keep him liquid.
21   bdrasin   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 10:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
Erickson only jumped on the train when he was almost totally irrelevant. There weren't enough NeverTrumpers or Lenin Projectors to keep him liquid.


That doesn't actually make him wrong you know
22   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Dec 1, 10:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

bdrasin says
That doesn't actually make him wrong you know




Sure it does, he's a cuck loser. He is an old school GOPe who, as long as he gets cheap labor and an occasional tax cut, is fine with the "managed decline" of the USA, particularly in a cultural sense.

It doesn't matter what he thinks, Trump isn't going anywhere until the Fraud is fixed.

He's just a Chamberlain, to be forgotten by history except as a joke and a warining.
23   bdrasin   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 10:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
bdrasin says
That doesn't actually make him wrong you know




Sure it does, he's a cuck loser. He is an old school GOPe who, as long as he gets cheap labor and an occasional tax cut, is fine with the "managed decline" of the USA, particularly in a cultural sense.

It doesn't matter what he thinks, Trump isn't going anywhere until the Fraud is fixed.

He's just a Chamberlain, to be forgotten by history except as a joke and a warining.


I find this really weird. You seem to think that you insulting someone makes them wrong. It doesn't. What you think of someone has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not what they are arguing makes sense.

Every court that's looked at these so-called "fraud" claims has rejected them. Very decisively and often with much scorn. These grandiose claims that Trump/Trumpers are making in the media and online aren't surviving in court where you have to present evidence and are held accountable for testifying falsely. Deal with that, not with puerile insults
26   bdrasin   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 3:00pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Great, you've got a couple of screenshots, one of which accuses two Republican elected officials of committing treason in order to help a candidate of the other party win a state which he didn't need to win the election. It makes no sense to anyone outside of your little conspiracy ghetto. Talk on social media and patnet counts for nothing; if there really were proof Trump's team would be showing it in court. They aren't, because there isn't any.
27   Shaman   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 3:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

bdrasin says
Every court that's looked at these so-called "fraud" claims has rejected them.


And so far the ones which have been decided that way were the weakest cases that were meant to buy time. This is as expected.
The election might be over but we won’t have a result for some time yet.
28   Rb6d   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 3:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

bdrasin says
Great, you've got a couple of screenshots, one of which accuses two Republican elected officials of committing treason in order to help a candidate of the other party win a state which he didn't need to win the election. It makes no sense to anyone outside of your little conspiracy ghetto. Talk on social media and patnet counts for nothing; if there really were proof Trump's team would be showing it in court. They aren't, because there isn't any.


Various official Republican election observers told lawmakers of things they saw about the process that lacked transparency or were legally questionable. That included Linda Brickman, first vice chair of the Maricopa County Republican Party, who testified she saw Trump votes being tallied as Biden votes.

https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/12/01/vote-certified-gop-challenges-continue/
29   bdrasin   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 4:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Shaman says
bdrasin says
Every court that's looked at these so-called "fraud" claims has rejected them.


And so far the ones which have been decided that way were the weakest cases that were meant to buy time. This is as expected.
The election might be over but we won’t have a result for some time yet.


Down 74 points with no time left on the clock, 4th down on our own 2 inch line is EXACTLY where we wanted to be!
31   bdrasin   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 4:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says


Wow, you've got all this awesome proof, why aren't you working for Trump's legal team? They think their case is so weak they're not even TRYING to show widespread fraud in their court actions!
32   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2020 Dec 1, 4:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I think Trump is trying to practice restraint, to see if the legal process can handle things before going ballistic.

Unfortunately, the enemy is thuggish, adamant and unrestrained by ethics and morality of any kind. However, opening the situation up to military tribunal and martial law could be a whole 'nother bag of worms.
33   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
astronut97 says
I admit that I have a reality bias. Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories. This site is so biased against reality that I am dumbfounded that actual adults post this shit. Pull your heads out of your arses.





WTF is this post supposed to mean? Do you not understand what constitutes evidence?
34   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
astronut97 says
Newsmax and OAN are not even remotely reliable non-partisan sources.


The NYT isn't either, nor MSNBC, nor NPR:



This graphic doesn't support what you are saying. It merely states where certain demographics use as their source of news. It says nothing about the veracity of the news sites.
35   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
astronut97 says
Newsmax and OAN are not even remotely reliable non-partisan sources. The vote wasn't hacked, Trump lost fairly and squarely.


As opposed to what? Says who?

Says anyone with a brain, what's wrong with yours? Newsmax and OAN are ultra rightwing non-fact based entertainment sites, not news sites.
36   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

SunnyvaleCA says
astronut97 says
Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories.
How about the notorized sworn affidavits from multiple poll watchers? That is "actual evidence" with actual names of actual witnesses who will actually go to jail if they are found to be lying — I don't think they're just making stuff up. If even 1/2 of what Giuliani claimed at his presentation in Pennsylvania is true, this is a whopper of an election rigging.

None of this has held up in any court it's been brought before, so Trump and his minions are just making it up. You have any actual evidence? The courts so far don't think so, even Trump and Republican appointees.
37   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 4:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

bdrasin says
NoCoupForYou says
Erickson only jumped on the train when he was almost totally irrelevant. There weren't enough NeverTrumpers or Lenin Projectors to keep him liquid.


That doesn't actually make him wrong you know


I used to listen to Erick, that was until COVID hit and he went full left on the issue. Face masks, full panic, all that crap.

Couple months later he is screaming Biden won, while ignoring the mountains of evidence and is in bed with Brian Kemp.

Erick appeared to be a voice of reason for a long time, but I can't listen to the hack anymore. Tim Pool who is a self proclaimed liberal does a WAY better job than Erick presenting a fair picture of what's going on. Erick just proclaims the MSM talking points now.
38   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
astronut97 says
Fortwaynemobile says
That’s longest projection ever. Do you even hear your bias there?

I admit that I have a reality bias. Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories. This site is so biased against reality that I am dumbfounded that actual adults post this shit. Pull your heads out of your arses.


You have no reality bias, you have left wing bias, I heard all your points word for word from other cnn watchers before. Lefts propaganda works well. It’s all same points, because they find bottom dweller and represent him as voice for Republicans, which isn’t reality.

If you want evidence. Evidence, go watch Pennsylvania hearing and Arizona hearing. That evidence was made public. All those witnesses are not Rus...


I stick by my reality bias, as unfortunately for you, reality seems to have a liberal, science bias. What in the Pennsylvania or Arizona hearings do you consider pertinent, as it appears the courts do not agree with you, including Republican appointed judges.
39   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says

Well you forgot to mention the other bowl held a pile of steaming shit. I'd take porridge over shit any day.
40   astronut97   ignore (2)   2020 Dec 1, 4:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
astronut97 says
non-partisan sources. The vote wasn't hacked, Trump lost fairly and squarely. If you believe Newmax then you must also be a flat earther, young earther, creationist, anti-vaxer, moon landing hoaxer, birther and whatever other non-evidence based conspiracy theory out there.

If you can't argue the facts attack the person.

Do you really believe that Trump got more popular votes than anyone else in any previous presidential election? I do.

Why the f*** would you believe that? I'm not so much attacking the person as I am attacking their lack of a working BS detector. I just listed a bunch of positions that have as much evidence behind them as the election has been hacked believers. For them and any of these other positions holders, please present you verified evidence. Put up or shut up.
41   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 5:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
please present you verified evidence.


Oh, it's "verified evidence" now? Whose "verification" would you accept?
42   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 5:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You guys are being trolled
43   Rb6d   ignore (0)   2020 Dec 1, 5:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
Oh, it's "verified evidence" now? Whose "verification" would you accept?

Only liberal scientific evidence of type that there exist hundreds of genders
44   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Dec 1, 5:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

joshuatrio says
You guys are being trolled


They know.
45   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2020 Dec 1, 9:16pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
. They were willing to ensnare America and burn it down in order to win elections. I’m tired of what Democrats are doing to America.


The didn’t want a reality show host running America. I think that’s a fair fear.
47   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Dec 2, 6:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
The didn’t want a reality show host running America. I think that’s a fair fear.


They have no problem with electing actual clowns to the Senate, but "reality show host".... oh, the horror!
48   clambo   ignore (5)   2020 Dec 2, 6:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The election was a fraud.
The decision to use mail in ballots in several states was illegal; the governors didn’t have authority over voting methods.
Therefore, there was intent to commit fraud.
Samples of in person votes showed a ratio of votes Trump:Biden vastly different from mailed ballots which had unusually high Biden votes.
The number of non legal voters was vast.
The dead registered to vote in droves. They voted for Biden.
Voter participation was absurd: no election can expect a turnout of 85%; how can there be 100%, up to 700%?
Etc. ,etc.
I hope they throw the book at the cheaters.
49   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Dec 2, 6:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
The didn’t want a reality show host running America. I think that’s a fair fear.



Which is why they gave him 11M more votes than 2016.

Without the Fraud being deducted.

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