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Good interview with Charles Murray on the wokeness religion and the harm it does


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2021 Jan 1, 4:27pm   352 views  3 comments

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www.youtube.com/embed/lp4XhZytdD0

Originally posted in https://patrick.net/post/1336939?offset=0#comment-1722962

My notes while watching the video:

how do you prove yourself to be a good person? wokeness fills a void left by having no religion
it's also something to do
a purpose in life, a great crusade to be a part of, meaning
wokeness is not in china or russia
feminism and allied movements are not seeking equality, they are seeking revenge against innocent men
people pretending they are anti-racist are spewing racist hatred, generalizing with abandon
they made themselves rich and famous by attacking people because of their racial origin
the "anti-racists" are again all about revenge against innocent people, not equality
gays are not expressing the tolerance toward others that they themselves sought
gays attack churches which will not change their teachings about homosexuality, but never mosques
small but very noisy groups of people have cultural dominance in america
gays present themselves as better than others, heterosexuals as rather disappointing
people log on to their social media each meaning to find people to hate and try to destroy them
religions need practices, ways to demonstrate belonging
social justice activists gather 24/7 online to worship the latest "victim" and find heretics to destroy
that's how they show they are "good people"
it's horrible, unforgiving, and vengeful religion which doesn't allow any redemption for the individual or society
they get ideas from marx and foucoult that all oppression is linked
it's not enough to advocate for women's rights, it has to be black women, and not just those, but black trans women
"black trans women is necessarily the most oppressed, so if you can free "her", then all blacks, women, and sexual minorities would be free"
the wokeness movement makes demands that are impossible towards ends that are unachievable
doesn't work even on its own terms, eg gay rights and trans rights are opposed to each other
is a tomboy trans, or lesbian, or just normal? there have always been tomboys who mostly turned out to be normal women
trans people say tomboys should surgically altered
gays would say that it's unlikely that any significant number of tomboys need to be surgically altered
even gays no say "we've been told something that's not true"
women notice that trans activism works against women's rights
trans stuff says women have to behave and look a certain way, but feminists say the opposite
"you've GOT to say i'm a woman" - a lot of women say no, we don't, and you're not actually a woman in woman's sports
there was a case in britain where a trans "woman" convicted of rape was put in a woman's prison and raped other prisoners
these people have stretched our patience enough by making these ridiculous claims
to hell with these "interscctionalist" people for wasting our time while we are not allowed to point out their contradictions
to be a loyal soviet citizen was to say what you were supposed to say and to know that it was all a lie anyway
it was precisely to demoralize people that they are forced to say things they know are lies
the "don't hurt me" blm sign you put in your window is designed to make you a more cringing and compliant person
the right answer is "no, i'm not going to take in or spew out lies"
but if you work for government, corporations, education, you are forced to take and and spew out lies now
we should constantly call out the overt racism of the self-named "anti-racists"
good questions to ask woketards are "where is the place for forgiveness?" and "compared to what?"
ie, men are bad compared to what? straight people are bad compared to what? white people are bad compared to what?
don't argue the corp hr crap about how white people are bad, but ask those questions
people voted for trump because he's the only one TALKING BACK to all that crap
you're told you have whie privilege when you are an unemployed steel worker
you're told you have male privilege when you are divorced and she gets the kid 6.5 days per week
if it were women or blacks being mocked, it would be unthinkable
race relations got much worse under obama
specifically american problems have now been exported to countries that never had them, like race issues in britain
police demonstrate remarkable patience with violent leftists
america is being brought down by many things, not just one: radical politics, disappearance of adults, demonization of police
why did americans not stop these things immediately? where are the adults?
businesses are attacked nightly in portland, gunfire into a black restaurant with pictures on the walls of first responders
the stupid and ignorant have taken over portland, seattle, and california because leaders there are so weak
but the portland mayor ran against an overt supporter of leftist terrorism, so he won, but he is very weak
we should not permit people to get away with lies about the past
violent leftists think they know so much about the world but have never been anywhere and know nothing about history
they have no perspective, they have been very weak educations and were put into debt for it
there actually are fake jobs for them in corporations, propagating ignorance
europe is permitting itself to be overwhelmed by islamic immigrants
muslim in france beheaded a teacher for teaching his students about the important of freedom of speech
where are france's friends and allies when president of france marcon finally objects to islamic terror? britain and germany said NOTHING
turkey is trying to get leadership of world islam by claiming that objecting to terrorism is somehow "intolerant"
macron had to personally call the ny times and publicly correct their outright lies, eg macron is trying to "segregate muslim children"
in france, the left and right agree on the principles of the enlightenment, ie secularism and equality for all
but not in america, which is not actually defending western values
in 2015in france, the year started with the massacre of charlie hebdo cartoonists and ended with beheading of a priest during mass
it was an attack on france's culture directly, everything from secular values (freedom of speech) to the right to worship freely
if americans were being killed this way at that rate, we might wise up about islam
one reason for brexit was to recapture control of britain's borders
the conservative party in britain always lets its voters down and not done what they promised to do
boris johnson failed to object when blm started tearing down statues in britain, like that of winston churchill
the leftist agenda of identity politics is going to be rolled out with force now, in a spirit of vengeance
trump in warsaw: does the west have the will to survive? determination to protect our borders and our culture?
we should not wait for the perfect leader to defend us
black policeman said that no one talks about the duties of citizens, only duties of police
we should all take it upon ourselves to defend our borders, our culture, our freedom of speech
the smarter younger people are not interested in this unpleasant retributive crap being pushed on them
instead they prefer to live in a world with multiple opinions instead of being forced to chant one opinion with some mob
the smarter individuals are going to save this if anyone is, not politicians
we can do it with minimal violence or risk to ourselves

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1   Patrick   2021 Jan 1, 4:31pm  

Murray used the term "steel man" in his replies, which I hadn't heard of so I looked it up:

https://constantrenewal.com/steel-man/

Put simply, it’s building the best form of the other side’s argument and then engaging with it. It’s being charitable and patching up the weaknesses in the other side’s proposition so that he can bring the best counter-argument to your point of view.
2   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jan 2, 1:11pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
The libbies have no argument except SURRENDER! to IMMENSE! BULL! DYKES! and hand them your income to spend on Buick sized dildos and GENDER! STUDIES!


Facts, also watch that gendered language.
3   Onvacation   2021 Jan 2, 2:15pm  

Patrick says
we should not wait for the perfect leader to defend us

"A man's got to know his limitations."
Dirty Harry

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