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MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 8:20pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 8:20pm
I reversed the chapter and verse. 1 Cor 13:11
KJV:
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
KJV:
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
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PeopleUnited
2021 Jan 14, 9:01pm
PeopleUnited
2021 Jan 14, 9:01pm
My Grandpa served in WWII, and farmed 4 sections for 50 years after that. His toy tractor is still on display behind where he used to sit.
He was a man and lived like a man, and he had a toy tractor, probably the dealership gave it to him in recognition of his being a loyal customer.
So I would not worry about toys. (Video games, that is another matter)
But if you want to vilify a whole generation using scripture here is a good place to start:
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
2 Timothy 3:1-7 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/2ti.3.1-7.kjv
He was a man and lived like a man, and he had a toy tractor, probably the dealership gave it to him in recognition of his being a loyal customer.
So I would not worry about toys. (Video games, that is another matter)
But if you want to vilify a whole generation using scripture here is a good place to start:
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
2 Timothy 3:1-7 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/2ti.3.1-7.kjv
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MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 9:14pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 9:14pm
PeopleUnited says
There's a difference between getting a Trucker getting a Hess Truck for buying thousands of gallons in diesel fuel over the years, putting it on the dashboard, and having a cubicle/office/den festooned with things from your own childhood. Or a farmer getting a model tractor in recognition of his patronage over the years. That's more like a momento or trophy or award.
My father had a Hawkman-like figure, given to him by the office girls who joked he looked like that British Actor from Flash Gordon. But that movie came out when he was almost 50, and it wasn't from his childhood, and his office was not covered floor to ceiling with toys, trinkets, and posters in an homage to Flash Gordon which I think he never saw.
No normative Adult Male can I remember from 80s childhood had a den or office covered in Superman posters, Batman Pillows, and 50 Action Figures. That's entirely a new thing, a symptom of a sickness even if the symptomatic person does have other symptoms of the disease.
His toy tractor is still on display behind where he used to sit.
There's a difference between getting a Trucker getting a Hess Truck for buying thousands of gallons in diesel fuel over the years, putting it on the dashboard, and having a cubicle/office/den festooned with things from your own childhood. Or a farmer getting a model tractor in recognition of his patronage over the years. That's more like a momento or trophy or award.
My father had a Hawkman-like figure, given to him by the office girls who joked he looked like that British Actor from Flash Gordon. But that movie came out when he was almost 50, and it wasn't from his childhood, and his office was not covered floor to ceiling with toys, trinkets, and posters in an homage to Flash Gordon which I think he never saw.
No normative Adult Male can I remember from 80s childhood had a den or office covered in Superman posters, Batman Pillows, and 50 Action Figures. That's entirely a new thing, a symptom of a sickness even if the symptomatic person does have other symptoms of the disease.
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mell
2021 Jan 14, 9:25pm
Patrick says
The men are a product of today's society, unless you have greatly red-pilled parents or any other close red-pilled role model, the odds are stacked against boys hearing about toxic masculinity at a very early age and punished for every little outburst of masculinity. I remember getting a message from an expensive (typical SF) soccer camp that the kid was tangled up in some scuffle. I brought him next morning and they said there is a zero tolerance violence policy and on the next offense a kid will be kicked out of camp without reimbursement. Further inquiry yielded that 2 boys were "fighting" over who gets to sit closest to some other kid playing a game on the iPad during break. Subsequent further inquiry yielded that "fighting" really was a bit of pushing and shoving and yelling. So I told them they're grown men teaching athletics and if they can't reign in a couple elementary school kids they are unfit for their jobs and the moment the kid gets barred for something that ridiculous I will charge back the entire amount for the camp onto the credit card. Pussy nation.
Modern women are immodest and aggressive, modern men are effeminate.
The men are a product of today's society, unless you have greatly red-pilled parents or any other close red-pilled role model, the odds are stacked against boys hearing about toxic masculinity at a very early age and punished for every little outburst of masculinity. I remember getting a message from an expensive (typical SF) soccer camp that the kid was tangled up in some scuffle. I brought him next morning and they said there is a zero tolerance violence policy and on the next offense a kid will be kicked out of camp without reimbursement. Further inquiry yielded that 2 boys were "fighting" over who gets to sit closest to some other kid playing a game on the iPad during break. Subsequent further inquiry yielded that "fighting" really was a bit of pushing and shoving and yelling. So I told them they're grown men teaching athletics and if they can't reign in a couple elementary school kids they are unfit for their jobs and the moment the kid gets barred for something that ridiculous I will charge back the entire amount for the camp onto the credit card. Pussy nation.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 9:39pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 9:39pm
mell says
Agreed. It's a symptom of a sick society, it didn't bloom out of nothing and turn countless generations of proper man dens/offices/workshops into Homages to Hollywood.
I'm not saying you can't fart out in front of the couch and watch the Chinese Connection or Delta Force with a bag of chips when the wife and kids are gone for the day.
I'm not saying you have to take your action figures or childhood comic books and burn them in the backyard.
I'm not saying you can't have a single "She-ra is my Waifu" coffee cup on your desk.
I'm saying an adult male space, should look like an adult male space, not like a 10-year old's room.
Peer Pressure must be allowed to take hold. "Dude, your cubicle looks like my 7-year old cousin's bedroom. He's giving away his twin-sized Batman sheets, do you want them to cover your office chair? Do you still think girls are icky? Did you grow your pubes out yet?" That's how we policed fellow teens when I was one.
The men are a product of today's society, unless you have greatly red-pilled parents or any other close red-pilled role model, the odds are stacked against boys hearing about toxic masculinity at a very early age and punished for every little outburst of masculinity. .
Agreed. It's a symptom of a sick society, it didn't bloom out of nothing and turn countless generations of proper man dens/offices/workshops into Homages to Hollywood.
I'm not saying you can't fart out in front of the couch and watch the Chinese Connection or Delta Force with a bag of chips when the wife and kids are gone for the day.
I'm not saying you have to take your action figures or childhood comic books and burn them in the backyard.
I'm not saying you can't have a single "She-ra is my Waifu" coffee cup on your desk.
I'm saying an adult male space, should look like an adult male space, not like a 10-year old's room.
Peer Pressure must be allowed to take hold. "Dude, your cubicle looks like my 7-year old cousin's bedroom. He's giving away his twin-sized Batman sheets, do you want them to cover your office chair? Do you still think girls are icky? Did you grow your pubes out yet?" That's how we policed fellow teens when I was one.
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mell
2021 Jan 14, 9:47pm
NoCoupForYou says
The infantilization of the workplace is enormous on the left coast, doesn't seem as pervasive on the east coast.
mell saysThe men are a product of today's society, unless you have greatly red-pilled parents or any other close red-pilled role model, the odds are stacked against boys hearing about toxic masculinity at a very early age and punished for every little outburst of masculinity. .
Agreed. It's a symptom of a sick society, it didn't bloom out of nothing and turn countless generations of proper man dens/offices/workshops into Homages to Hollywood.
I'm not saying you can't fart out in front of the couch and watch the Chinese Connection or Delta Force with a bag of chips when the wife and kids are gone for the day.
I'm not saying you have to take your action figures or childhood comic books and burn them in the backyard.
I'm not saying you can't have a single "She-ra is my Waifu" coffee cup on your desk.
I'm saying an adult male space, should look like an adult male space, not like...
The infantilization of the workplace is enormous on the left coast, doesn't seem as pervasive on the east coast.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 9:49pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 14, 9:49pm
mell says
In some minor ways, like dress codes, the East coast is a bit more conservative, even hard left places like Boston and certainly if you work in Manhattan.
The infantilization of the workplace is enormous on the left coast, doesn't seem as pervasive on the east coast.
In some minor ways, like dress codes, the East coast is a bit more conservative, even hard left places like Boston and certainly if you work in Manhattan.
I don't remember my friend's fathers having toys in their den/office.
I don't remember my grandparents or uncles having toys in their den/office.
I don't have toys in my home office, den, or bedroom or cubicle.
My dad did not have Dan Dare or Buck Rogers posters in his den or work office. My Grandfathers did not have HG Wells Posters in their offices or dens.
They all had collectibles or gifts or photos/pictures of life: A wooden carved whale with the house number a coworker made for my dad when he brought the house, two replica howdah guns he got from another friend, pictures of my dad's building, or the houses my grandfather developed, or a photo of Pope John Paul II in my other grandpa's den.
My friends USAF NCO dad had a model C-130, photos of him with C-130s, a photo of him as a young guy in Nam, Family Pics.
My other friends fathers had old time radios they had restored, pics of THEIR job, pics of THEIR family.
The only adult male I knew growing up that had toys in their office was a very Aspergery COBOL programmer: chubby, fat, 30ish,almost bald, lived with his mother and had a huge stutter and was obsessed with Doctor Who and Star Trek.
At 12-13, you got mocked if you still played with action figures. You certainly wouldn't be invited to any mixed sex basement games.
Why is it different now?
1 Corinthians 11:13