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Activists and media take aim at Telegram for welcoming free speech and privacy lovers who reject Big Tech


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2021 Jan 18, 2:36pm   155 views  1 comment

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https://reclaimthenet.org/media-vs-telegram/

Tens of millions have made the switch after recent privacy and free speech concerns of Big Tech giants.

A mere six months ago, the media painted Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram, as a hero who “took on the Kremlin and won” when he rejected Russian security services’ demand to allow them access to content on the encrypted messaging app.

At the time, Telegram was described favorably as the app of choice of Russian opposition groups. But these days, what some might easily describe as “opposition groups” are referred to as “angry conservatives” – and Durov and his fellow privacy and free speech enthusiast, Signal founder Brian Acton, are starting to be treated as their enablers.

While such reports explain what these apps do – provide secure and encrypted communication channels, while not reaching for user tracking and censoring – they also draw some worrying conclusions about them, that might be signaling they could become the next target for censors.

For example, Harry Fernandez, who heads a non profit “tracking online hate speech” called Change the Terms, seems to be struggling with the concept of end-to-end encryption and privacy, when he says Signal and Telegram are “dangerous” because they are unable to police content and users, in his words – they “appear not to have any infrastructure” for such an operation. ...

Another reason these apps are dangerous, according to him, is that users banned or suppressed elsewhere are free to use them. In general, the message pushed by many old media outlets now is that these apps should somehow vet their users, and allow only a select group of “activists and journalists” to enjoy the benefits of encrypted apps that protect them from government and law enforcement overreach and spying, while denying access to others.


Anyone here use Telegram or Signal?

Can you install them without going through any app store?

Do they have web-based versions?

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1   Karloff   2021 Jan 18, 5:44pm  

I have Signal, although I don't think I've ever messaged anyone else that was also using it, so it functioned just as any other SMS client.

On Android, you can't install it without the Play store unless you jump through hoops, such as using some pseudo-device such as Racoon to register with the play store then download the APK file, then move it to your phone and install it.

They have a web version, but apparently you have to have it installed on a mobile device first before it will work.

I would never trust a non-rooted Android or iOS device for any sensitive communications. Always assume these devices are owned by Google and Apple and will log/collect everything you do, regardless of any privacy settings you've enabled, and anything they can pick up around them (Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, microphone..)

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