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California lifts stay at home orders and statewide curfew


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2021 Jan 25, 8:24pm   3,088 views  44 comments

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So, how convenient, all of the regional orders are lifted. Even though there haven’t been significant increases in availability of icu beds, and all of the other data metrics they are using to control us.

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1   Onvacation   2021 Jan 25, 8:37pm  

Can we eat in restaurants? Can our kids go to school? Can we throw these stinky masks away? Do we still have to get an injection of the experimental biologic agent?

Where is Tiffany Dover?

Questions need answered.
2   Dholliday126   2021 Jan 25, 8:44pm  

I hope all the sheep liked having their lives destroyed for the sake of politics. I would have empathy but I know how weak and cucked the electorate is, thus only apathy from me.
3   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 25, 9:36pm  

Onvacation says
Can our kids go to school?


Nope. Not even after every fucking teacher is vaccinated.
4   Onvacation   2021 Jan 25, 9:49pm  

Eric Holder says
every fucking teacher is vaccinated.

It's not a vaccine.

It's an experimental biologic agent.
5   NuttBoxer   2021 Jan 25, 10:51pm  

I honestly didn't know there was an order. But I don't watch mainstream news, or generally allow others to run my life. We've been out to eat for past three weeks(including inside). My daughter has been going to school almost since the beginning of the year. And we rarely wear masks.

You're life is what you make it.
6   MisdemeanorRebel   2021 Jan 26, 7:05am  

Dholliday126 says
I hope all the sheep liked having their lives destroyed for the sake of politics. I would have empathy but I know how weak and cucked the electorate is, thus only apathy from me.



Teachers and State Employees got full paid vacation most of this time. They LOVE it!
7   WookieMan   2021 Jan 26, 7:34am  

NoCoupForYou says
Teachers and State Employees got full paid vacation most of this time. They LOVE it!

I've got my nephew now for a bit. 3 different teachers and 2 different schools. It's a fucking nightmare. I don't really comprehend how a family with a nurse and a firefighter as a dual income home can get their kids educated. Granny? The kids shouldn't be around old people. Every direction you turn with this pandemic is more stupidity.

Keep your kids at home, but be forced to have people watch your kids that are in the highest risk group? Don't wear a mask. Wear a mask, but multiple masks don't make a difference. Wear 2 masks now. This isn't even close to science at this point. Think is getting drunk, blindfolded and throwing darts. I always knew most people were dumb, never realized it was approaching the 90-95% level. Jesus.

Oh and get a vaccine that lowers symptoms, but you can still spread it and get it... Not sure that fits the definition of what a vaccine is, but who am I to 2nd guess. Obey

We should create a thread with archived links to all the hypocrisy during Covid. Things like Fauci saying you don't need masks and then you do. The list is pretty long. I'm sure there's already a site like this, but the more the better.
8   Onvacation   2021 Jan 26, 8:16am  

WookieMan says
Oh and get a vaccine that lowers symptoms, but you can still spread it and get it... Not sure that fits the definition of what a vaccine is, but who am I to 2nd guess. Obey

Experimental biologic agent. It's not a vaccine.

It won't give you immunity. It seems to be more dangerous than the Wuhan virus. You can still pass the virus to others after you have been "vaccinated". It's not a vaccine and if you volunteer to take it you are part of a vast study to see what it does.

They seem to be backing away from mass vaccination as the casualties pile up,

Still no sign of Tiffany Dover.
9   Blue   2021 Jan 26, 8:54am  

On fox someone said they got their man in office that should explain the mysterious lifting.
11   theoakman   2021 Jan 26, 8:55am  

Onvacation says
Eric Holder says
every fucking teacher is vaccinated.

It's not a vaccine.

It's an experimental biologic agent.


I've been teaching since September. There is no danger inside the building. We have all of our windows and doors open and the kids are freezing (not an issue for California), and we make it work. We now have gone through 5 months of education with no evidence of transmission inside the building. Not a single staff member hospitalized or even sick. I think 2 or 3 tested positive.
12   RWSGFY   2021 Jan 26, 9:15am  

theoakman says
I've been teaching since September.


Your union is failing you!
13   Bd6r   2021 Jan 26, 9:20am  

FuckCCP89 says
theoakman says
I've been teaching since September.


Your union is failing you!

We had a fight with administration who wanted to ban all in-person teaching...we won and at least some in-person teaching is allowed.
Having said that, a vocal minority (ca. 20%) of faculty here are dead-set against in-person classes. They are the ones administration usually listens to.
14   RWSGFY   2021 Jan 26, 9:24am  

Rb6d says
Having said that, a vocal minority (ca. 20%) of faculty here are dead-set against in-person classes. They are the ones administration usually listens to.


In my kid's school district the superintendant who was in favor of making in-person learning available to these who want it has been kicked out and replaced by some diversity muppet who changed the policy to "100% Zoom 100% of the time indefinitely".
15   Bd6r   2021 Jan 26, 9:31am  

FuckCCP89 says
In my kid's school district the superintendant who was in favor of making in-person learning available to these who want it has been kicked out and replaced by some diversity muppet who changed the policy to "100% Zoom 100% of the time indefinitely".

One of the arguments we had against zoom teaching was that we could just record lectures and then you don't need any administrations/faculty for delivering crappy education. I think this is a very reasonable argument. Don't have in-person classes, costs go way down and kids/students will learn just as little as with current zoom education. Another was that in online exams, cheating is prevalent - my estimate is that ca. 50% of students cheat. In high school, probably 90% would cheat. So what is the point of such education?

The only positive outcome that I see is that we have learned what was perfectly obvious to anyone who has taught - online education sucks, people who were talking about wonders of online education were/are full of crap, and that what we have now is the worst of both worlds - shitty and expensive education aka online for the price of in-person instruction.
16   ForcedTQ   2021 Jan 26, 1:48pm  

HunterTits says
I am SOOO sure that THIS has nothing to do with, too:

https://patrick.net/post/1337866/2021-01-26-only-300-000-more-signatures-are-needed-to-take-newsom-recall-to-voters


We need to PUSH THE RECALL HARD! He needs to be removed for literally killing the livelihoods of MANY Californians.
17   GNL   2021 Jan 26, 2:05pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Dholliday126 says
I hope all the sheep liked having their lives destroyed for the sake of politics. I would have empathy but I know how weak and cucked the electorate is, thus only apathy from me.



Teachers and State Employees got full paid vacation most of this time. They LOVE it!

What I've noticed most about the people who love the work from home and the masks are they are all either working from home with no income reduction and/or they are old fucks who are scared. These people could care less about all the damage done to anyone else yet they think they are morally superior.

There is no question in my mind...the most evil are the morally "superior" leftists.
18   Bd6r   2021 Jan 26, 3:12pm  

WineHorror1 says
What I've noticed most about the people who love the work from home and the masks are they are all either working from home with no income reduction and/or they are old fucks who are scared. These people could care less about all the damage done to anyone else yet they think they are morally superior.

There is no question in my mind...the most evil are the morally "superior" leftists.

That is absolutely correct...the way how libbiefucks (c) can be triggered is to point out that poor minority Hispanics have to work at grocery stores, construction, etc so the White Entitled Libbyfucks can sit at home, whine about corona, collect 100% of salary and post facebook pictures telling everyone "we are in this together"
19   GlocknLoad   2021 Jan 26, 4:37pm  

Rb6d says
WineHorror1 says
What I've noticed most about the people who love the work from home and the masks are they are all either working from home with no income reduction and/or they are old fucks who are scared. These people could care less about all the damage done to anyone else yet they think they are morally superior.

There is no question in my mind...the most evil are the morally "superior" leftists.

That is absolutely correct...the way how libbiefucks (c) can be triggered is to point out that poor minority Hispanics have to work at grocery stores, construction, etc so the White Entitled Libbyfucks can sit at home, whine about corona, collect 100% of salary and post facebook pictures telling everyone "we are in this together"

Is this an example of the banality of evil?
20   Patrick   2021 Jan 26, 5:28pm  

WineHorror1 says
What I've noticed most about the people who love the work from home and the masks are they are all either working from home with no income reduction and/or they are old fucks who are scared. These people could care less about all the damage done to anyone else yet they think they are morally superior.


I agree too.

These assholes have zero concern for the devastation they have wrought on small businesses.
21   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 26, 6:19pm  

Just thinking or reading about this newscum asshole makes me angry. #RecallTheMofo
Unfortunately, we have too many super left newscum lovers here in CA....
22   RWSGFY   2021 Jan 26, 7:29pm  

ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?


Criminals can't be identified, caught and prosecuted, for instance.
23   Onvacation   2021 Jan 26, 7:59pm  

ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?

LITTER for one.

plus all the reasons Patrick listed in the other thread.
24   WookieMan   2021 Jan 26, 8:02pm  

ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?

You're asking the wrong question. What positive did/does mask mandates accomplish? Cases are through the roof since implement, so clearly stopping the spread wasn't the goal. What is the one positive of mask mandates?
25   GNL   2021 Jan 26, 8:05pm  

ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?

Why do you hate freedom?
26   WookieMan   2021 Jan 26, 8:51pm  

ThreeBays says
WookieMan says
ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?

You're asking the wrong question. What positive did/does mask mandates accomplish? Cases are through the roof since implement, so clearly stopping the spread wasn't the goal. What is the one positive of mask mandates?


Show me how you can say that. Masks requirements were put in place around the same time as other measures were eased like opening restaurants, malls, gyms, and bars.

So the mask mandates didn't work? I'm not sure your point. Just because things reopened doesn't mean they went back to 100% capacity (if they even reopened). Remember we were open during the early parts of this "pandemic" WITHOUT masks. Sporting events, mass gatherings, concerts, etc. We've exceeded those times, still mostly shut down WITH masks. There's not much to discuss here until you realize that. Physical touch is the main spreader of this and touching your face because of a mask is at minimum 10% more likely to get you sick from Covid than not wearing a mask.
27   Patrick   2021 Jan 26, 9:03pm  

If the masks worked, why do we still need them?
If the masks didn't work, why do we still need them?

Anyway, they don't work at all. Except to spread fear. They are very good at spreading fear, a disease far worse than that feeble virus.

The goal is to spread fear.

When the public is afraid, they let the government violate their rights in ways that are otherwise inconceivable.
28   Bd6r   2021 Jan 26, 9:28pm  

ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?

1. Global warming and plastic waste. If a few drink straws would have killed the planet, what about littering with masks made with non-biodegradable plastics?
2. Burden on people that has no scientific justification.
29   Bd6r   2021 Jan 26, 9:29pm  

ThreeBays says
Show me how you can say that. Masks requirements were put in place around the same time as other measures were eased like opening restaurants, malls, gyms, and bars.

please share a reference to a peer-reviewed study that shows cloth masks working.
30   Patrick   2021 Jan 26, 9:40pm  

Rb6d says
ThreeBays says
What damage did mask requirements in public spaces cause?

1. Global warming and plastic waste. If a few drink straws would have killed the planet, what about littering with masks made with non-biodegradable plastics?
2. Burden on people that has no scientific justification.


3. Deliberate mass fear for no scientific reason. This is an enormous harm.
31   WookieMan   2021 Jan 27, 5:40am  

ThreeBays says
Patrick says
If the masks worked, why do we still need them?


Do you expect anyone to take logic like that seriously?

You did. You punted and asked a question instead of giving an answer.

I don't think you understand what he's saying either. IF masks and social distancing worked, this would be over. That was the bill of goods we were sold. 15 days to stop the spread. Now Biden is talking 100 days after we've already been "stopping the spread" for 320 days roughly. All this as cases surge as most have followed mask and distancing guidelines. The guidelines are not working. They don't work. There is no vaccine. What is being done isn't working. Blame whoever you want. The solutions thrown out don't work. Plain and simple.

We have a new virus. Like always, you are free to get a poke in the arm with a cocktail of shit that may or may not work that season depending on what strain is prevalent. This is where we're at. You may get sick for a couple days. To keep things closed is insanity. The evidence shows our actions have made the virus worse. OR that it was purposefully managed the way it was for other reasons. We'll likely never get to know. Or it's just bad science, which is very common. The data is clear that our health experts either didn't want to treat this for what it was or they simply are too stupid. Not sure there's any other explanation at this point.
32   Onvacation   2021 Jan 27, 6:55am  

WookieMan says
The data is clear that our health experts either didn't want to treat this for what it was or they simply are too stupid. Not sure there's any other explanation at this point.

Ignorance, stupidity, or malevolence?

Any other choices?
33   Bd6r   2021 Jan 27, 7:29am  

Onvacation says
Ignorance, stupidity, or malevolence?

how 'bout all three?
34   MisdemeanorRebel   2021 Jan 27, 7:30am  

ThreeBays says
Do you expect anyone to take logic like that seriously?



This is entirely logical. If the masks worked, then there would be no surge of cases. We've have two since mandatory masks.

The trendline for Sweden is comparable to all other Western Countries, where the restrictions were much less and targeted, rather than in all public places.
https://www.covid19insweden.com/en/

Where is the flu season?

States must immediately pass laws to make sure this doesn't happen again, restricting the power of the Governor to 14-30 days beyond which he must have explicit legislature extension for every 30 days beyond, AND must show evidence that mask wearing and closures had an impact (positive proof, not the "well if we didn't it would be much worse", which is not proof).
35   WookieMan   2021 Jan 27, 7:56am  

NoCoupForYou says
This is entirely logical. If the masks worked, then there would be no surge of cases. We've have two since mandatory masks.

You're going to get the argument that we opened back up and masks help it not spike as high with no evidence and the fact that we're not remotely open even in the most conservative of places.

Covid got here in January 2020 (as far was we know), likely earlier. Lockdowns (without masks) didn't even start until late March and early April 2020. During this time Covid was free to spread during sporting events, concerts, large gatherings, etc. NBA players were getting Covid as fans sat in the stands completely unmasked. They were the first league to shut down. Shit still continued for weeks after though. If an NBA player got Covid, it was already everywhere and spreading.

Our numbers now dwarf those from the early days. We've stopped all mass gatherings. Summer happened and people got outside. Then in June(ish) we decide masks are now good. WTF has happened since then? Numbers don't lie. I still can't go see my favorite band or sports team. In many locations I can't even sit in a coffee shop anymore or have a beer at the bar. Social distancing and masks don't do anything. Just look. It's obvious if you're not blind.

36   Onvacation   2021 Jan 27, 8:24am  

What the fuck does "case" mean anyway?

We have never used an inaccurate test to see how many colds we have before. Why now?

In the typical year I have minor symptoms of colds or flu (whatever) 3 or 4 times. Usually goes nowhere. A couple of years ago I got a devastating flu. Took me out completely for three days and several more to completely recover. If I was old and sick it would have killed me.

We can't continue the shut down to protect the old and sick. It's killing the young and heathy.
37   rocketjoe79   2021 Jan 27, 9:42am  

Onvacation says
What the fuck does "case" mean anyway?

We have never used an inaccurate test to see how many colds we have before. Why now?

In the typical year I have minor symptoms of colds or flu (whatever) 3 or 4 times. Usually goes nowhere. A couple of years ago I got a devastating flu. Took me out completely for three days and several more to completely recover. If I was old and sick it would have killed me.

We can't continue the shut down to protect the old and sick. It's killing the young and heathy.


The definition of "case" has a moving set of goal posts. The first was "any positive test" now (after Biden installed) the WHO says two different positives, PLUS clinical signs of infection. So the reported case rate will decrease exponentially. Unless the NEW DEADLY STRAINS gain media traction. Then it's back to step 1 - maybe forever.
38   WookieMan   2021 Jan 27, 2:08pm  

ThreeBays says
Many people started wearing masks in public as early as march

Where? This simply is not true. 2-4% is a rounding error and that's the max that was wearing masks in March. We were mask free and still doing normal things in March. This is undeniable. Sports leagues and mass gatherings were occurring almost all month. You still negate our first "known" case was in January. It was here before then and that's pretty much agreed upon. Covid spread for a full 3 months with the population not shut down and unmasked at MINIMUM. Likely longer.

ThreeBays says
Also it's clearly not been 100% compliant, with lots of people at rallies and such without masks.

The more compliant and more mandates go into place, the higher cases go. Again, you can't refute this. The chart above says you're wrong.

ThreeBays says
The same goes for social distancing. You mentioned that in your circle most people got sick from hugging and touching others... that's just as expected.

Not what I said at all. I can have a conversation without a mask for 10 minutes to an hour and not get Covid 3' away from another person. Just as I would before covid. Physical contact is the issue. Masks exponentially increase this physical contact with body parts that soak up a virus, nose and mouth with mask adjustments. Again, indisputable.

You barking up the wrong tree man. I've traveled to 2 US territories (PR and USVI) and Mexico. I've been to Wisconsin, Utah, Nevada, Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky, Maryland and Florida. I've been on trains, buses, planes, casinos, gas stations, public pools, hotels, vacation rentals, and car ferries. 7 different airports and 13 different flights. Only the Mexico trip was without kids. Covid is not dangerous. It's not as contagious as the media leads you to believe. I'm the only one in the family that has gotten sick since this "pandemic" and tested negative. I likely had the regular old flu. It sucked. Never even once thought of going to a doctor though if it was a false negative (likely was).

Between the wife and I we have a network of well over 500 close friends. You don't have to believe it, I don't care. But that's who would show up to our wedding today if we did it over. Anecdotal data is valid. I have more than most which is why I'm an ass hole on this topic. Give me something, even anecdotal from your end. I don't make shit up. What's the point? You know I'm right.
39   RWSGFY   2021 Jan 27, 2:10pm  

WookieMan says
Where?


Cali.
40   WookieMan   2021 Jan 27, 2:14pm  

FuckCCP89 says
WookieMan says
Where?


Cali.

As early as March? That shit was NOT happening anywhere in the midwest in March or April. May is when a few people started doing it here. Maybe 10%. June is when mandates started kicking in.

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