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Does anyone on here personally know a single person who died from the "virus"?


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2021 Feb 13, 10:56pm   934 views  63 comments

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I work with 50 people. Not one of them personally knows anyone who died.

Say they each know 200 people (and that's low, most people know 300 - 600). At 200, that's 10,000 people they know in total total, more or less.

How many deaths have their supposedly been in the US now? Say half a million to play along with the press.

500000 / 330000000 = .0015

So 15 people out of every 10,000 US citizens have supposedly died from this, if you believe the media and Fauci's CDC.

And yet not ONE person I know at work personally knows anyone who died. Statistically, there should be about 15 deaths among the people who personally know people I work with.

Do YOU know anyone who died from this? Personally know them, and are sure it wasn't just old age or the flu?

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1   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Feb 13, 11:11pm  

Hi Patrick,

A few have died from my workplace. We don’t meet the stated US average.

Two of my wife’s extended family members have died from Covid. It’s neither old age nor flu, though there were health related comorbidities in all.

I do personally also know two fairly healthy and young people who got extremely sick from Covid. It happens. Freddie Freeman, this past years National League MVP, got extremely sick from Covid before the season started and he is 31 and in excellent shape.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Freeman

I think you are barking up the wrong tree on some of this. I’d love to share more, but until I retire, I’m not revealing what I do and how I know some of the things I know. The govt reaction to Covid has been gross, but it’s not just the flu either.
2   Patrick   2021 Feb 13, 11:18pm  

@FuckTheMainstreamMedia

Did you personally know the people at work who died? Or were you just told about it?

How can you be sure your wife's relatives did not just die of their comobidities?

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Freddie Freeman, this past years National League MVP


Do you personally know him? Wikipedia is literally just propaganda at this point, riding on the work of people who entered facts before.
3   GNL   2021 Feb 14, 1:58am  

I know of no one, personally, who has died. I do know hundreds of Realtors though and I've heard 2 stories of deaths. One person who died was 90.
4   GNL   2021 Feb 14, 2:23am  

Evil, pure evil. The hypochondriacs and evil government have taken over.
5   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Feb 14, 2:38am  

Patrick says
@FuckTheMainstreamMedia

Did you personally know the people at work who died? Or were you just told about it?

How can you be sure your wife's relatives did not just die of their comobidities?

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Freddie Freeman, this past years National League MVP


Do you personally know him? Wikipedia is literally just propaganda at this point, riding on the work of people who entered facts before.


As far as the wife’s relatives I can only go on what the family tells us. As far as work, again can only go on what work tells us. One coworker did have an immediate family member pass and that co worker was honest and said it’s the steroids to treat the high blood sugar that caused organ malfunction and that’s what caused the death.

Of the people I intimately know had it, 14 got sick ranging from mild cold to severe flu symptoms, 2 had no symptoms, and 1 has been severely sick, but refused hospitalization.

Wife had it and basically was a cold. I never got it. Another co worker has it and neither her husband nor their two kids got it. They quarantined though.

I do not personally know anyone that died, but then my parents and my cousins parents are by far the oldest people I know and none are in their 80’s and they’ve been able to stay to themselves mostly.

As to Freddie Freeman, I’m a huge baseball fan and was already following his Twitter account for a few years.

I couldn’t explain why some people get very sick, but some do. The co worker who is severely sick and refused hospitalization is not that old(early 50’s) and is not in poor health. For whatever reason, it hits some people hard.
6   clambo   2021 Feb 14, 6:26am  

I don’t know anyone personally who has died from Wuhan/Corona/Covid/SARSCov2

I believe that it’s more serious than the flu virus if you get sick with it, depending on how bad a case you have.

But, the panic is contrived (bullshit).

The CDC says 6% of dead no co morbidity. 94% of dead had 2+ comorbidities.
So, of 500,000 dead, about 30,000 were unexpected.
Car crashes kill many more, as do drug overdoses.
My brother got sick.
He’s 1. Fat 2. Slightly asthmatic 3. Gets no exercise 4.69
He was lethargic and didn’t eat or drink, so he lost 25lbs but was dehydrated.

I of course know many people who have died from flu virus, cancer, heart attack, even brain aneurysm.
I know people who have died in car crashes, bleeding ulcers, suicide.
I know many people who died from AIDS.
I know drug overdose dead, murder victim dead,

The entire purpose of the government media complex spreading panic is to get political control, which they achieved.
7   theoakman   2021 Feb 14, 6:26am  

Listen, it's clearly more dangerous than the flu for anyone above age 25 for now. That's only because it's new. The reason that a small percentage of younger people react so badly to the virus is because of a genetic mutation involving the immune response in that segment of the population. The older population naturally has a weakened immune system and some of them are poorly equipped to deal with the new virus. After this year, this will not be more dangerous than the flu.

The fact is, for large large large segment of the population, this virus is a complete nothingburger. At this stage in the game, everything should be about personal choice.
8   WookieMan   2021 Feb 14, 7:21am  

Patrick says
Do YOU know anyone who died from this? Personally know them, and are sure it wasn't just old age or the flu?

Our babysitters grandma died. The word grandma makes me skeptical that Covid was the cause 100%. I also never met her either. Younger family though (made kids early each generation), so I think grandma was around 70-75 at death. So not super old. Unsure of comorbidities. Didn't feel like an appropriate question to ask after her grandma died.

Neighbors co-worker (he managed the guy) died with it. 100% other issues, but did have Covid at death. Again though I didn't know him personally and I believe the info was relayed to my neighbor through work from the family. Hadn't seen him for a month as it was early on it shut downs. So who knows what is true on that one.

My mom is 68 and knows of nobody that's died from it. Country club family and my dad was an attorney, so my folks knew or would have known of ~1,000+ people easily if they saw an obit online or heard about it from friends. My mom is a FB junkie and likely would have heard of one there. Hasn't heard of any.

My wife and I through her work probably would know 2k people that would report a death or we'd hear about it. Given the industry and only going Us>Friend>friend it's probably north of 20-30k people easy. I think through the grapevine we've heard of about 2 additional deaths, but none which we knew or heard their name in our life.

It's real for sure and deadly, just not worth the reaction we've had. I don't remember biology at all (sorry Rin), so my terminology and thought on this could be bat shit crazy. I feel like it's always existed and the CDC relabeled it from a mutated form of another virus. They're just not calling this version the flu and they've got media cooperation or paid them to make this something that it isn't. A pandemic.

Other fact is our flu seasons are going to start taking more people here in the US. Boomers are the 2nd largest demo and aging and many did not lead healthy lives. So if Covid-19 never existed, it's likely we'd have been seeing massive spikes in flu deaths over the next decade anyway. The media hypes number and never focus' on per capita. The numbers will always get bigger if population grows. It's manipulation 101. Much easier when you fear for your life too.
9   komputodo   2021 Feb 14, 7:23am  

NO.....( unlike FTMSM's Yes but really NO)... But over this past year I've personally known about 10 people who have died from other things.
10   HeadSet   2021 Feb 14, 7:39am  

I've personally known about 10 people who have died from other things.

Damn man, you really need to control that temper....
11   komputodo   2021 Feb 14, 7:58am  

Patrick says
I work with 50 people. Not one of them personally knows anyone who died.

Say they each know 200 people (and that's low, most people know 300 - 600). At 200, that's 10,000 people they know in total total, more or less.

How many deaths have their supposedly been in the US now? Say half a million to play along with the press.

500000 / 330000000 = .0015

So 15 people out of every 10,000 US citizens have supposedly died from this, if you believe the media and Fauci's CDC.

And yet not ONE person I know at work personally knows anyone who died. Statistically, there should be about 15 deaths among the people who personally know people I work with.

Do YOU know anyone who died from this? Personally know them, and are sure it wasn't just old age or the flu?

You should expand this thread and ask "Does anyone know anyone "personally" that died from any of the false flag events over the last 10 years...9/11, the school killings, the las vegas shootout, etc...
12   Bitcoin   2021 Feb 14, 8:04am  

Actually, I was told certain people I know died from Covid....but I have no proof (and all of them had already health issues)
I do know tons of people who said they tested positive for covid and recovered just fine.
13   KgK one   2021 Feb 14, 8:14am  

CNN doesnt have covid as top news now.

I have heard of 10 people getting it,

3 people claim they were tired , had headache for 2 weeks.

2 long distance family age above 75 passed away.

I think of it as stronger flu.
14   NDrLoR   2021 Feb 14, 8:47am  

GOP Congressman Ron Wright who died last week of COVID at only 67 also had lung cancer, which is not mentioned in most of the stories but was in the Waco paper.
15   NDrLoR   2021 Feb 14, 8:49am  

WookieMan says
Boomers are the 2nd largest demo and aging and many did not lead healthy lives. S
And that's a big irony since that is the generation that invented personal fitness, specifically jogging in the late 60's.
16   Blue   2021 Feb 14, 8:56am  

KgK one says
CNN doesnt have covid as top news now.

Well, they were able to put their man in the office. Now there's no need to run fake news any more.
17   mell   2021 Feb 14, 8:58am  

Yes, but it's always difficult to prove what the cause was. I do think it's more deadly, but for the sole reason that there was no vaccine and not enough t cell immunity. If you assume a pandemic style widespread flu strain completely missed by the yearly vaccines or assume nobody getting vaccinated and no existing flu medication working so that new ones have to be tested or developed, it would likely yield the same amount of deaths if everyone seriously ill would be tested like they do for covid and it is assumed they died of it if positive. Plus we have more boomers than ever, so I have no doubt that this won't be the last severe flu season. Part of nature, part of life.
18   Robert Sproul   2021 Feb 14, 8:58am  

I know exactly one person that even got the bug. He didn't dramatize it at all, barely mentioned it.
I think we should count deaths that are past the average life expectancy differently.
In the US currently that is 78.7 years. To me it is insane to keep the kids out of school and possibly inject them with experimental gene therapies in order to impact deaths in this cohort.
We might want to tabulate the deaths past that in some footnote, but not throw ourselves around the room ululating about them.
19   Shaman   2021 Feb 14, 9:00am  

Covid is a gift.
We should stop making a big deal over it and just let it do its thing, culling the old sick people who’d otherwise be around to break our healthcare system.
20   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 10:57am  

WineHorror1 says
I know of no one, personally, who has died.


FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I do not personally know anyone that died


WookieMan says
I also never met her either.


This is my point.

I have so far not found anyone who personally knows anyone who died from this.
21   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 11:03am  

clambo says
The entire purpose of the government media complex spreading panic is to get political control, which they achieved.



Exactly.
22   RWSGFY   2021 Feb 14, 11:05am  

Only anecdotes like "co-worker's mom in Europe" or "wife's co-worker's dad in Virginia".
23   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 11:13am  

Statistically, if the CDC's numbers were true, almost all of us would know one person who died from this.

Most people actually know about 600 others personally, and 600 * 0.0015 = 0.9. So there's a 90% chance each of us would know someone who died.

But we don't personally know anyone who died of this.

Therefore the CDC's number are a lie.
24   porkchopXpress   2021 Feb 14, 12:15pm  

As I've posted before, I had COVID. It was the moderate flu for me. I don't know anyone personally who has died from it. However, the bigger issue with COVID is long-term symptoms and/or permanent injury in some way...not death. Trust me, this virus is treacherous that way so I wouldn't rely on only "death" as a barometer. I used to think like many of you until I got it, and you all know I'm anti-government, Pro Trump, pro freedom, etc.

Is the government politicizing it? Of course. Is it being used to hurt our country economically? Yes. Is the virus a nothing burger? No.
25   Hircus   2021 Feb 14, 12:41pm  

I don't personally know anyone who died. Then again, per capita covid deaths are relatively low where most of my social circle lives here in the SF bay area.

I took us population ~330,000,000 and divided by approx claimed covid deaths 500,000 and get ~660. So, roughly 1 out of every 660 us residents died.

But I think there's at least a few factors which make it less likely a given individual will personally know (or be aware of) a covid death.

I don't know how many people I personally know, but I do know that even if I assume I know 660, I'm not certain that if one of them died, that I would hear about it. I feel confident there's some fraction of the people that I do know personally, that I no longer have a great social link to, and so I may not hear that they died for quite a few years from now, if ever.

Also, keep in mind even if you assume that if a person you personally knew died, that you would hear about it, it still wouldnt result in 1 out of 660 ppl knowing a death. This is because with randomness you get overlap, so some people will know 2 deaths, leaving other people knowing 0 deaths. Especially with a virus, because its likely to spread within a household, but that household's social circles have lots of overlap.

Also, covid deaths are somewhat concentrated in geographic clusters, and I think this concentration effect results in less of the population personally knowing a covid death. The way I figure that, is this: keep imagining covid deaths more and more concentrated in specific areas, until you get so concentrated that ALL the covid deaths are concentrated in 1 state, or even 1 metro area like LA. Would that result in more, or less people personally knowing a death? Less. If it was all concentrated in LA, you would end up with mostly californians in that area knowing ppl who died, and those californians would often have lots of overlap, some personally knowing multiple ppl who died, while people from other states would much more rarely know of a death. So, people from the other states (most of the population) would be asking their local friends if they know someone, and they would almost all say no. Of course this is an extreme example, but I think the idea is sound that the covid concentration does cause this effect to some extent.

So I'm not really too surprised that I don't personally know someone. But, I am surprised at how many other people I've asked, who also don't personally know anyone. Asking other people is a way to transcend other social networks, and I'm just so surprised by how rare it still is, even after accounting for the fact that most of the people I ask also live in the SF bay. Like how Patrick asked 50 coworkers - it just seems too rare. If maybe one out of 3 ppl I asked said yes, I might accept that, but it seems like maybe 1 out of 20.
26   Onvacation   2021 Feb 14, 1:16pm  

porkchopexpress says
Is the virus a nothing burger?

It's no worse than many other viruses humanity has suffered through.
27   Blue   2021 Feb 14, 1:43pm  

Back when I was in HS in India, I used to see almost daily cremations for months on the way to school who were killed by cholera disease strike right after the floods.
I imagined Covid would create that kind of situation based on the TV "news", which is far from the reality.
28   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 1:52pm  

Right!

The news is lying to us.

They are pretending this is far more serious than it really is, to stoke fear and obedience.

It's almost insignificant. If no one told you there was an epidemic, you wouldn't even notice.
29   mell   2021 Feb 14, 1:59pm  

Patrick says
Right!

The news is lying to us.

They are pretending this is far more serious than it really is, to stoke fear and obedience.

It's almost insignificant. If no one told you there was an epidemic, you wouldn't even notice.


Agreed. Imagine no lockdowns ever happened and the lamestream media and lefotid sheisters never drummed up the fear porn, you would be going about your way every day, very rarely hearing about a friend of a friend's grandma or grampa in the hospital for some serious pneumonia going around, the kids and adults would have had a minor to strong cold and herd immunity would have been reached within the year.
30   mell   2021 Feb 14, 2:06pm  

porkchopexpress says
As I've posted before, I had COVID. It was the moderate flu for me. I don't know anyone personally who has died from it. However, the bigger issue with COVID is long-term symptoms and/or permanent injury in some way...not death. Trust me, this virus is treacherous that way so I wouldn't rely on only "death" as a barometer. I used to think like many of you until I got it, and you all know I'm anti-government, Pro Trump, pro freedom, etc.

Is the government politicizing it? Of course. Is it being used to hurt our country economically? Yes. Is the virus a nothing burger? No.


I agree that long term effects can be significant, but that is the case for any novel virus where there's no existing defense so that it elicits a rather strong tcell and macrophage reaction, causing inflammation etc. It won't be the last time. I had 5 years of much worse long term effects from a viral or bacterial infection before fully recovering, but since there was no perceived widespread infection (it was around and post h1n1 flu season) and no leftoid and lamestream media sheisters interested in drumming up fear porn against a GEOTUS (obummer was prez back then) they didn't report on it and actually partially swept the severity of h1n1 and the botched response by the obummer admin under the rug. And I certainly didn't blame whoever infected me with the trigger infection which lasted over 4 weeks and certainly didn't run around like a lunatic cussing at joggers and chastising people for not wearing masks. Instead I imported off label immune boosters from overseas and other supplements paired with athletic rehab after doing extensive research and slowly but surely clawed my way back from barely completing a mile in under 11 minutes to running a half marathon in 2 hours. Life is a journey and fuck those maskholes!
31   WookieMan   2021 Feb 14, 8:45pm  

mell says
I had 5 years of much worse long term effects from a viral or bacterial infection before fully recovering

My friends kid died of a bacterial infection at 4. Almost no kids have died from this. Working age adults rarely die from this. Yet the people that run everything are being told to shut down and kids stay home fucking them up mentally.

It's beyond ridiculous at this point. Cleaned out our office today that had some of the kids shit from school and artwork they did at home. Found a lovely piece of work that says "covid sucks" written by my 10 year old. Obviously he listens to my rants, but he not wrong...

Hearing rumors of a spring travel ban/shutdown now as well. I know Biden said no.... for now. Is it even legal for the federal government to shut down interstate travel in any way? I get foreign travel being banned. I'm just so done with this shit. If a state wants to shut down, fine, that's how it should work. Everyone was worried about Trump being a dictator. You shut down my travel and shit gonna hit the fan.
32   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 8:50pm  

WookieMan says
It's beyond ridiculous at this point.


It's like they're playing. They want to see how much they can get away with.

And they are itching to label you a TERRORIST if you object too strongly.
33   Onvacation   2021 Feb 14, 8:58pm  

WookieMan says
You shut down my travel and shit gonna hit the fan.




Be glad you don't live in Britain or Australia. They got some bullies that will beat you up for not masking or being out where you shouldn't be.

The government has suspended our 1st amendment for the last year, The next step would be to enforce the suspension.
34   WookieMan   2021 Feb 14, 9:19pm  

Onvacation says
Be glad you don't live in Britain or Australia

Hell, look at our neighbors to the north. Canada is going full retard. Mexico was normal when I went there, they seem to be doing okay or as good as any country is. Can't get into Canada without ridiculous forced quarantine guidelines to the tune of $2k per person. Then their contact tracing is full big brother from what I understand.

End of April it lapses, but my BIL is Canadian and in Europe right now. My SIL is obviously a US citizen. They're not sure they can get into Canada at this point when his contract is up over there. It's a hot mess of a situation. They're in Austria currently. They both got Covid months ago. Austrian officials would visit the house every couple days to make sure they were home randomly. No joke.

We have it bad, but not as worse as other places. And maybe that's what this test is all about. This is the importance of the 2A.
35   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 9:52pm  

The first amendment cannot exist without the second amendment.
36   komputodo   2021 Feb 15, 7:46am  

Patrick says
The first amendment cannot exist without the second amendment.

But will the first amendment continue to exist even with the second amendment?
37   Robert Sproul   2021 Feb 15, 8:02am  

The average age of death in America is 78, the average age of a Covid death is 80.
Old folks parting valediction should be "May you live long enough to die of Covid old friend".
38   Robert Sproul   2021 Feb 15, 8:18am  

Blue says
KgK one says
CNN doesnt have covid as top news now.

Well, they were able to put their man in the office. Now there's no need to run fake news any more.


CNN's high-drama OMG! Death Count Chyron running at the bottom of the screen for months, disappeared a couple days after *President Biden was sworn in.
39   B.A.C.A.H.   2021 Feb 15, 8:26am  

I answered this a few months ago when my answer was two.

Now it's three. The first two, cousins in their 70's with no co-morbidities except old age, and (perhaps) the reality of residing in rural Kansas.

The third one, spouse of a cousin in rural Tennessee in early 80's, a tee-totalling fundamentalist preacher.
40   GNL   2021 Feb 15, 8:43am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
I answered this a few months ago when my answer was two.

Now it's three. The first two, cousins in their 70's with no co-morbidities except old age, and (perhaps) the reality of residing in rural Kansas.

The third one, spouse of a cousin in rural Tennessee in early 80's, a tee-totalling fundamentalist preacher.

With or from Covid?

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