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Many women are remarkably naive about the end of their own fertility


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2021 Feb 18, 12:55am   819 views  40 comments

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https://americancompass.org/essays/why-bother-with-family/

Nicole Shanahan, the wife of Google cofounder Sergey Brin, is a brilliant and accomplished woman. Yet Shanahan admits that her early life decisions about work and family were made in ignorance of basic facts about female fertility. She dreamed of having it all, she told the MIT Technology Review. “It was eye-opening to me that there are biological factors that would limit that dream.” ...

If even a woman as well-educated as Shanahan didn’t have an accurate sense of the facts of biological fertility, the average women must be at least as misinformed — and according to surveys, they are. Women overestimate their chance of becoming pregnant naturally after 40, guessing a 60 percent chance in a given month when the real likelihood is 5 percent. They also consistently overestimate the odds that a round of in vitro fertilization (IVF) will successfully result in a live birth.

We could try telling them the truth, but lots of people don’t want women better informed on this subject. For some, it is a matter of self-interest. Employers prefer women to focus on their careers without worrying that their window for having children is closing...


I didn't realize that feminism was as devastating to thinking about basic biological facts like fertility as it is to thinking about basic biological facts like the inherent differences between men and women.

The self-genocide of feminists is well underway. They did it to themselves. Idiots.

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1   Automan Empire   2021 Feb 18, 2:51am  

When I was a young man in the late 80s, I'd meet all kinds of women who didn't know JACK FUCKING SHIT about their OWN biology. Life hack: when a woman angrily declares, "I know my body!" she is covering a lie. Might be willful or subconscious. Check for yourself carefully. Second life hack: discreetly maintain a fertility tracker to know for yourself and verify how accurate her "knowing" really is. You can also use the moon phases as a mnemonic if you see it regularly.
2   clambo   2021 Feb 18, 5:06am  

This subject is interesting, I have a couple of anecdotes.

In college I knew a girl who was a math major. She had gotten pregnant because she didn’t think she would get pregnant on her very first time having sexual intercourse.

Another girl asked me if she could get pregnant from a blow job.

Recently a girl I met in Florida told me she avoided screwing too many guys, they’ll “stretch out my pussy”.
She’s very proud of her sexy body and her blowjob skills.
3   WookieMan   2021 Feb 18, 8:00am  

Patrick says
I didn't realize that feminism was as devastation to thinking about basic biological facts like fertility as it is to thinking about basic biological facts like the inherent differences between men and women.

Why in the flying fuck would any dude want to have kids with a lady in their 40's anyway? Your life is over having a kid at that age. You're going to play basketball with a 15 year old when you're 55-60? I know the topic is women not knowing their bodies, but what about the men?

My biggest life regret is not having kids earlier and I'm off the parenting clock legally by age 48 if I want to be. I wanted kids, but it's a big task unless you have a wife that wants to do every single thing for them and generally that's not a great trait or place for kids. It takes two. I wish we just pumped our kids out when we were 22ish right out of college. My oldest would be going to college or doing something else. Basically I'd be 40 and could have been kid free in the home.

Either way, there's a reason we have so much autism and childhood issues. 40 year old women aren't meant to have children at that age. Their bodies aren't equipped. Menopause can happen at that age. You think a healthy kid is going to be pumped out of those cobwebs and organs if they're in the process of slowly shutting down?

Kids are a drag, but they're great if that makes sense. Most my peers are 35-40. The ones that don't have kids at this point I tell them DON'T do it. It's an 18 year mortgage that you cannot sell, file BK, short sell, or get rid of. It's a legal obligation.

Women were made to pump these fuckers out at ages 15-25 roughly. There's no point in waiting (past 18 of course). Get it over with if you want kids.
4   porkchopXpress   2021 Feb 18, 8:29am  

50% of Black women have herpes
5   WookieMan   2021 Feb 18, 8:30am  

porkchopexpress says
50% of Black women have herpes

Well that's an interesting factoid.. lol. Believable.
6   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Feb 18, 8:38am  

Children distract from shareholder value, so nazi corporations hate children and family.
7   WookieMan   2021 Feb 18, 8:45am  

Fortwaynemobile says
Children distract from shareholder value, so nazi corporations hate children and family.

You only live one life. I think children are important. Not saying this is truth, but most people I know without children are bored, stuck in their station of life and have nothing to look forward to. Not all, but most. Not passing judgement either on some here I know don't have kids.

We waited until ~26 if you account for incubation period. The 22-26 years were fun. No responsibility. If you want kids though, I'd have skipped those years and just had them anyway when we were fucking like rabbits already and worried about having a kid. Pump 'em out and get the vasectomy and enjoy the hell out of 40 to death.
8   Misc   2021 Feb 18, 8:47am  

WookieMan says
porkchopexpress says
50% of Black women have herpes

Well that's an interesting factoid.. lol. Believable.


I googled it and even they say it's 48%.
9   Booger   2021 Feb 18, 8:51am  

Children are a giant sinkhole of time and money, and will prevent you from retiring in Caligulan splendor.
10   WookieMan   2021 Feb 18, 8:59am  

Booger says
Children are a giant sinkhole of time and money, and will prevent you from retiring in Caligulan splendor.

Agree and disagree. For us it's motivation. We did well before kids, but were pretty average in all honesty. Kids came and both of us (wife and I) went 6 figures or bust.

Not everyone is motivated that way, which is totally fine. For us we worked a bit harder at first, but now it's easier and better than if we didn't have kids financially. They motivated us. I know we work less now than if we didn't have kids (work more), let's put it that way. The kids are work still, but it's worth it.
11   rocketjoe79   2021 Feb 18, 9:00am  

Type 2 herpes is one of the most common infections. I have it, probably from my first girlfriend. It causes little nodules of virus to encapsulate just beneath the skin. They cause "cold sores" for me 2-3 times a year. Seemingly random, but I think stress is a factor. So, a lifetime PITA, but not currently treatable and not a big deal. If your dick has little tiny white capsules under the skin, you have it. I've never had any "cold sores" on my genitals tho. Weird. Maybe it's set off by too much Sunlight?
12   RC2006   2021 Feb 18, 9:06am  

My wife which I met when she was 19 thought men had only one ball, she thought the sack was the ball lol.

Actually had woman at concert that was ex of friend in her early 40s come up to me and ask if I regretted having kids because they are waste of money and keep me spending more money on myself.
I just laughed at her, bow she is leaving out of bus up in Palm Springs selling trinkets and snake oils. So many women are toxic trash.
13   Ceffer   2021 Feb 18, 9:11am  

I tried shoving one of those blue pills up the tip of my dick. It really hurt, and it definitely did not give me an erection. Another Big Pharma fraud.
14   HeadSet   2021 Feb 18, 12:09pm  

Ceffer says
I tried shoving one of those blue pills up the tip of my dick. It really hurt, and it definitely did not give me an erection. Another Big Pharma fraud.


The problem is you need a bigger dick.....
15   Rin   2021 Feb 18, 12:35pm  

WookieMan says

You only live one life. I think children are important. Not saying this is truth, but most people I know without children are bored, stuck in their station of life and have nothing to look forward to. Not all, but most. Not passing judgement either on some here I know don't have kids.


Not too long ago, I knew someone who'd killed himself, after his 3rd child turned eighteen.

My suspicion is that there are lots of miserable ppl out there, who've had children and now, feel like they have no options in life but to put on an act in front of others.

The ppl who're bored, chose to be bored instead of challenging themselves in their latter years.
16   porkchopXpress   2021 Feb 18, 2:16pm  

Misc says
WookieMan says
porkchopexpress says
50% of Black women have herpes

Well that's an interesting factoid.. lol. Believable.


I googled it and even they say it's 48%.
I wouldn't lie to you
17   Ceffer   2021 Feb 18, 2:28pm  

HeadSet says
The problem is you need a bigger dick.....

Maybe if I glue it in there with gorilla glue.
18   OKBOOMER   2021 Feb 19, 7:57pm  

Hello,

I keep getting hit on by desperate craggy old white women my same age - in their 30s and 40s. I know nothing about these women's past or how many miles on the odometer. They expect a 500k house, 50k car, 25k wedding, and 10 diamond ring. Yet all they have to offer in return is a used up ____ . and freak out when they are turn down. Even when it's subtle or implicit. Thier blood pressure goes up. When you ignore them or don't take the bait they are freaking out. They never had to deal with rejection in their lives and can't handle it. I want a young wife to make a family with. These women offered everything to men who gave them nothing. Now they want to offer nothing to the man who gives them everything. They never see the end coming.

I'm fleeing the United States to find a wife and own a house. I saved up 100k cash and am going to buy a house out of the USA. Things have changed so much in 20 years. The morals values economics demographics laws norms RE and rent prices. .

The Real Estate Bubble is eclipsing 2006-2008. NOBODY in the controlled media is talking about it. NOBODY. I'm in Florida now and these houses are selling like hot cakes. Parent's friend just put his house on the market for $550k - it was bid up to $750k and sold in ONE DAY for cash.

I used to make $5,000.00 month AFTER taxes running my own business in CA. After CA and Fed Taxes it was barely enough to pay the rent in California and expenses to live in a safe nice area in Los Angeles. I only managed to save up $100k in 10 years. I'm owed $60k with bankrupt customers now. My business has decreased 80% this year. I can't afford to live in the USA anymore. But I can afford to live overseas.

I'm forced to take a drastic - drastic risky step of putting my life savings - 100k - into a foreign country. I just got back visiting 2 countries there after 6 months (90 day visa each). I am trying to find an international moving company - but they are booked solid. ALLOT of people are fleeing the United States right now because of the way things are going and Real Estate prices. 9/10 of my parents rich white neighbors have Biden signs in their yards. These people are all over 65 and don't see the reality of the country they helped create. I could go on and on but I'm not going to.

All the work is done - the residency permit approved - bank account opened - house deposit tendered - the contract reviewed by the lawyers and approved - everything is done. I just need to grab my balls, export my things, and wire transfer my money to the seller overseas to complete the contract. If I don't do it in 15 days they keep the deposit and the house.

I am having a VERY hard time doing this. I didn't realize it would be this difficult. Positives - the women are so poor they can't afford tattoos. They can't afford feminism. Women outnumber men. And my money goes 4 x as far. For $1-2k month you can live like a King. I'm not going to say where it is because I don't want more American men coming and ruining it. You need to own your own business and work remotely to live here.

I'm wondering why there is no discussion in the media or on this website - which became famous in 2006-2008 on the 2021 Real Estate bubble. This bubble is so big you cannot even get a mobile home in Florida for less than 60k without paying "lot rent" to some developer parasite. Nobody is talking about the Real Estate Bubble NOW TODAY in 2021. And if you call ANY International Moving company (assuming they answer the phone) they will tell you they are very busy and REAL ESTATE is one of the reasons customers are giving them to leave USA. My friend works for Customs and Border Protection and said Exports for international moving is up more than he's ever seen in 20 years. It jumped after this co-vid thing. People are not only leaving NY and CA - they are selling their houses leaving the United States and exporting their possessions.

There is nothing being discussed in the controlled media about this. Can you please do some more threads on this subject and get this going again? This Real Estate bubble isn't going away, I am telling you the houses in Florida are selling like hot cakes. 1-3 days on the market, bidding wars, cash payments sold 50-200k over asking. I feel like America is slowly turning socilaist and my only choice is to be a mortgage and tax slave - and wife up fat feminist or old bag.... then lose everything in a divorce,

Please pray for me to find my balls and go through with this international move so I don't lose my deposit. I am having hardcore hesitation and anxiety about leaving America. It got so bad my stomach and back started hurting for no reason. I'm 90% completed. Traveling there, hiring interpretor's, taxi's, lawyers, viewing houses, signing the deposit contract, opening a business and bank account to get residency, the red tape was INSANE. I've spent 6 months doing this now.

Please pray for me to find my balls. Thanks.
19   OKBOOMER   2021 Feb 19, 8:09pm  

I need to flee the United States - follow through with this international plan and permanently move to another country. Out out out of the United States. I'm done with the feminism, politics, getting my car surrounded by BLM nutcases (yes it happened), paying taxes, being a rent slave - I'm done. Other people talk about it but I'm going to do it but I'm getting hardcore fear. This is 100x more fearful than when I quit my job to start my own business but back them I was young ....

Please pray for me to find my balls again ... .


Sorry to sound like a p----y ..... but please give me more reasons that support this choice because everyone is trying to convince me not to do it. Putting hesitation and fear into me. Saying I won't see my family here if someone is dying at the hospital, Saying I won't be safe, Saying they dislike Americans over there, Saying the water has parasites... saying I'm gonna get scammed and lose 100k ...

This is not an easy choice.


Please pray for me to find my balls. I'm having serious hesitation and hardcore anxiety about leaving but I cannot stay here.
20   ThatGuy   2021 Feb 19, 11:18pm  

uh, find your balls dude. Stop being such a mealy-mouthed bitch, Take the money and run.

Stop complaining that you won and go off to your 3rd world paradise!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU&ab_channel=iNUKEDbinLADEN
21   Booger   2021 Feb 20, 3:11am  

If you are going to a shithole, then a lot of what they are saying is correct. Now if you are moving to Poland, you will be fine.
22   Shaman   2021 Feb 20, 5:54am  

OKBOOMER says
Please pray for me to find my balls. I'm having serious hesitation and hardcore anxiety about leaving but I cannot stay here.


Where is “here?” We Patnetters are a pretty helpful bunch and might have some ideas for your neck of the woods. Not to dissuade you from international travel, but there is remarkable variance in the state of the states. Take a vacation and Drive across the country. Find a better place to live. Most of America is still a great place to live, but you’ve got to get out of the shithole blue areas.
23   Bd6r   2021 Feb 20, 7:52am  

Shaman says
OKBOOMER says
Please pray for me to find my balls. I'm having serious hesitation and hardcore anxiety about leaving but I cannot stay here.


Where is “here?” We Patnetters are a pretty helpful bunch and might have some ideas for your neck of the woods. Not to dissuade you from international travel, but there is remarkable variance in the state of the states. Take a vacation and Drive across the country. Find a better place to live. Most of America is still a great place to live, but you’ve got to get out of the shithole blue areas.

Exactly! Some of us have travelled quite a lot also, and I have lived for extended period of time in 4-5 countries (more than a few months). Perhaps one of us has connections in country you are leaving to. Or we can point to a state which has not turned to a shithole state yet. Check out smaller towns in Texas, for example. You won't see antifa there, and house will not cost 500K.
One advice I can offer if you move is to learn local language ASAP and make friends, and to not act as a "smug westerner".
24   HeadSet   2021 Feb 20, 8:10am  

Shaman says
OKBOOMER says
Please pray for me to find my balls. I'm having serious hesitation and hardcore anxiety about leaving but I cannot stay here.


Where is “here?” We Patnetters are a pretty helpful bunch and might have some ideas for your neck of the woods. Not to dissuade you from international travel, but there is remarkable variance in the state of the states. Take a vacation and Drive across the country. Find a better place to live. Most of America is still a great place to live, but you’ve got to get out of the shithole blue areas.


Read between the lines. He wants a "young wife to make a family with" yet is an older man of average means. The place to get such a young babe is somewhere like the Philippines, where a hot 20 something girl will be happy to marry a 40 something American man, and thus escape a life of poverty and abuse.

As far a nice place to live, my wife has a friend from school days that lives in rural Shenandoah Valley in VA, near Waynesboro. Absolutely gorgeous home with mountain views on an acreage with similar neighborhood homes. She can afford this as a call center manager working remotely from home, with the main office in Texas. Close enough to towns with good restaurants, nightlife, natural, historical, and other attractions, but light traffic and mild weather.
25   Dholliday126   2021 Feb 20, 8:29am  

FEMINISM = LOW FERTILITY RATE = SOCIALISM = REPLACEMENT

We need to get back to the soft Patriarchy if we want to survive.

* by replacement I mean western/christian cultural genocide.
26   Bd6r   2021 Feb 20, 9:11am  

To be fair, womyn who are family-oriented also have problems finding a reliable guy who would want to commit and who is not a loser (=wants to commit to be supported by a woman). Many, if not most, successful younger males are not into families as well these days. At age of 25 or even 35 it is much easier and much more pleasant to screw as many womyn as possible on tinder or whatever these apps are called. The issue is loss of family-oriented culture in society, where both genders feel that they win at 20 but both lose at 40 and further in their lives, and for womyn loss comes earlier, and hits them harder
27   KgK one   2021 Feb 20, 10:06am  

Young successful males 5% have line of hoes. Why commit to bread when buffet is presented.
Forget 80 /20, its like 95 /5 rule. 95 % of women want 5 guys.

Now even 5% men are cautious, because of me too and rape accusation.

Basically top 5% of both men n women has it good.
Don't care what mellenial women say, how mating has worked since beginning of time continues.
28   NDrLoR   2021 Feb 20, 11:16am  

HeadSet says
The place to get such a young babe is somewhere like the Philippines, where a hot 20 something girl will be happy to marry a 40 something American man
Who will wind up killing her when the new wears off and start the process over again. Seen this theme time and again on Investigation Discovery.
29   NDrLoR   2021 Feb 20, 11:18am  

OKBOOMER says
I need to flee the United States
Running doesn't solve the problem, people usually take their problems with them, unwilling to admit something is wrong with them.
30   Shaman   2021 Feb 20, 12:01pm  

KgK one says
Young successful males 5% have line of hoes. Why commit to bread when buffet is presented.
Forget 80 /20, its like 95 /5 rule. 95 % of women want 5 guys.

Now even 5% men are cautious, because of me too and rape accusation.

Basically top 5% of both men n women has it good.
Don't care what mellenial women say, how mating has worked since beginning of time continues.


If you win the genetic lottery and are beautiful, the world is basically on easy mode for you. If you’re a handsome man, other men want to be your friend and women want to sleep with you. If you’re a beautiful woman, men want to sleep with you and give you many many gifts. Women react by 1)wanting to be friends, or 2)sniping at you behind your back, or 3)admiring you from afar.

Both of my sisters are pretty, maybe even beautiful when made up. Both married into money. My brother and I aren’t much above average, so we had to make our own way.
I made sure to be very very choosy about a wife. When the right one came along with beauty, brains, and a work ethic, I knew she was worth working hard to win. I put in the time and effort and she fell for me as hard as I did for her. We’ve been married for 15 years now. We have three kids, all of them beautiful or handsome. All are smart, and my son is (very) intelligent. My wife keeps increasing her take home and already tops six figures as a college professor. She also works out a lot and keeps herself in great shape.

It was worth being choosy.
31   Blue   2021 Feb 20, 12:02pm  

OKBOOMER says
I need to flee the United States

Think 100 times before doing it. May be you are looking for fleeing from your problems. Look inside first. Like others already said, US is still has tons of great places to live than to deal with lot of problems that you need to deal with outside US. There are lot of great places outside too but getting in there needs lot of time and effort that I doubt you can do it alone.
32   Booger   2021 Feb 20, 3:38pm  

Women can be really stupid about things sometimes:
33   OKBOOMER   2021 Feb 21, 6:06pm  

During better times long gone where common sense and truth prevailed; Transsexualism was classified as a mental illness.
34   OKBOOMER   2021 Feb 21, 6:38pm  

Blue says
OKBOOMER says
I need to flee the United States

Think 100 times before doing it. May be you are looking for fleeing from your problems. Look inside first. Like others already said, US is still has tons of great places to live than to deal with lot of problems that you need to deal with outside US. There are lot of great places outside too but getting in there needs lot of time and effort that I doubt you can do it alone.



I do not want to live in a racially diverse or high crime area anymore. I've done my time and had enough.

I need a house in good condition at least 3000 FT2 for 100k or less. There is literally no selection of houses anywhere in the entire United States you can buy this anymore except in white minoirty or high crime areas. The cheapest I found anywhere in the United States is this along the northern US Canada border of Maine, Michigan, and Minnesota. Because nobody wants to live there. You are out in the boonies and the cost of living up there has gone up. There is are deer evrywhere. There is literally nothing to do. And the selection of women is lower than North Dakota. I.E. you will not get laid or date a granola bear and feel lucky just to have anyone.

The country I visited was teeming, with hot women. I could not pay attention to them and walk at the same time. After my 90 days were up I flew home, took the taxi to the hotel and went to Walgreens to get booze. Then very first thing I see at Walgreens - A fat bossy white women with tattoos short dyed hair dressed like a slob with rolls of pasty white fat hanging out. She was bitching and bossing around the good looking in shape man she was with. She was really laying it into him how stupid he was. Not knowing the difference between some shit. Why do I put up with you. This and that.

He was hanging his head low like like a whipped dog. Then I kind of realized I was back in America.
35   HeadSet   2021 Feb 21, 6:40pm  

Women are remarkably ignorant about the end of their own fertility

And judging by the number of unwanted pregnancies, not too smart on the start of their fertility either.
36   OKBOOMER   2021 Feb 21, 6:57pm  

Blue says
OKBOOMER says
I need to flee the United States

Think 100 times before doing it. May be you are looking for fleeing from your problems.


The issue is not me. It's society. I know this becauase all my ex. GF were hot and I got laid all the time when I was young, had a hot has hell blonde GF, talked to pretty girls all the time, had friends, and for me this was 100% normal.

Then something drastically changed ..I don't know what it was but I could only get half the women or less I was used to. Women I would never touch in a million years - would confidently hit on me. .... It drove me insane.

I don't know what changed but it was drastic...
37   OKBOOMER   2021 Feb 21, 7:11pm  

HeadSet says
Women are remarkably ignorant about the end of their own fertility

And judging by the number of unwanted pregnancies, not too smart on the start of their fertility either.



They confidently believe they can wait until after 30 to get married .. and up to 40 to get pregnant.
38   HeadSet   2021 Feb 21, 7:27pm  

OKBOOMER says
They confidently believe they can wait until after 30 to get married .. and up to 40 to get pregnant.


Yes, and the rich ones think they can freeze their eggs.
39   just_passing_through   2021 Feb 21, 7:38pm  

OKBOOMER says
He was hanging his head low like like a whipped dog. Then I kind of realized I was back in America.


I had a similar experience moving from TX to CA in the mid-90s.
40   MisdemeanorRebel   2021 Feb 21, 8:20pm  

Funny, I am planning a move back to the USA, even though I have residency in two SA countries now. Sadly, the nasty ass tattoo craze is spreading, and as long as you aren't starving, you can afford tattoos. They should require a $5000 bond cash to get tattoos.

Worst of all is bitches about 30-35 years old, they are maybe a 6 or 7 on a good day, then they get tats and age 5-10 years, they look like aging ladies desperate to conserve their youthful appearance as it has the opposite effect. Esp. if they get bigass thigh or sleeve or cleavage area tattoos, yuk. About 30% of Millennials have all the worst traits of some boomers, but amplified like 10x. "

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