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URGENT: Help needed! Recalling school board. San Ramon Valley District

By krc follow krc   2021 Feb 21, 1:21pm 252 views   13 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    

I really don't know where to go and need advice. I live in the san ramon valley school district and my wife is involved in recalling the school board. The long and the short is that the school board in our district has failed to re-open at least in hybrid when they had the opportunity to since October-Jan. My wife has gone to several rallies over the past several months (including the "Let them play" group"). And, it is clear the board and superintendent are beholden to the CTA. In any case, after a lot of parent pressure, K-5 has re-opened in hybrid mode but most parents are still quite upset that there is still as yet no in person teaching option for higher grade levels.

It turned vitriolic when parents started a recall petition agains the school board. The reasons for recalling the school board is for more than just the lack of in person teaching.
Many districts around the state are open in hybrid mode - including top rated districts like granite bay, Marin, etc.. From mid-Oct to January it was possible to open in hybrid and be in a tier that would keep the schools open. The school board and superintendent did not do that.

More details are here: https://recallsrvusd.org/ (it is far more than the school re-opening situation, but also concerns on many other financial issues, lack of any approved science curriculum for the last several years, and fiscal mismanagement/appropriation of dollars for trucks,etc.. )

Anyway, we starting petitioning in parking lots, etc... and today ran into an opposition pro-union group that moved right next to our location. They had a provocateur there filming with his camera and getting up and into peoples faces approaching the signing table. They had acres where they could have setup - but no: the purpose was to deliberately prevent people from signing the petition. They were filming those who were signing - just a couple of feet away.

There were others who were fine - they stayed 10 or so feet away - and they were hading out pro-union papers, etc... The problem was this other guy - my wife called me down and I ended up placing myself in front of him whenever he was shooting video, and I would make statements why the district would not open, etc... He had a dog with him that would growl/bark, etc...

In any case, someone who signed got into an altercation with this gentleman who was following the signer around back to his truck. Then one of the other "counter protesters/agitators" got in the way and fell down. I don't know if she was pushed or not. But of course police got involved and the officer agreed the person filming was trying to create a hostile and volatile situation but nothing could be done. Which I figured since it is a public place - and there are no guarantees on people being "civil".

Anyway - what are some options the group has to gather signatures since it is clear a counter group will show up? The "opposition" even said that I was hostile simply for asking them why other districts are open, why is there no science curriculum, etc.... It was so Orwellian. If I was opposing a group - I wouldn't just go down and "counter protest" and intimidate - I just don't think that is courteous. The person filming wouldn't give his name, who he worked for, etc.. which is within his right. He said he would "splice the video" and post it to make me look bad, and I am sure that there is likely nothing I can do.

But - how do we get help? We need numbers to at least protect our people. I guess facebook posts, etc..
I am just frustrated because there is no communal civility. What is happening in Portland is coming to the suburbs and small towns.
This idea is that you should shut down anyone who disagrees with you. It is sad. This isn't even a "political" group - there are a number of liberals and conservatives that see in person teaching as best for their children (district admitted that remote learning is leading to far higher failure rates across all class subjects).

Anyone in the east bay area want to lend a hand? Go to the link above and give us some support. Basically, it was a number of wives down doing the signature collection - they all called their husbands because of the threats and intimidation.

Some press:
Unwillingness to meet, discuss, and vote in alignment with her community members in Zone 5; serious matter of violating the Brown Act; and did not demonstrate financial governance and oversight required by a board member and has failed in their primary responsibility to ensure accountability.

Any advice appreciated.
1   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 21, 2:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Legally not much other than hire guards or make friends with police to come and make sure provocation is not happening. Police have enough leeway to kick troublemakers out.

Under the table stuff that’s not legal... I’ll only post if you really want to know all options. Look these fucks breaking rules too, you just have to take rule breaking further than they are willing.

At bare minimum follow video guy to his home. That usually sends a message that follow up might be bad.
2   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 21, 2:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Also don’t stop signature collection, it means it’s working if they are hiring gangs to stop it. That means you are winning, and they are on defense.
3   krc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 21, 2:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Maybe we can find a shop owner that owns his own property that will let us setup but prevent that other group from intimidating.
4   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2021 Feb 21, 3:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You'll never get a damn thing accomplished Voting. You've got to join the party, and implore everyone else to. Become a Precinct Committee Chair, and reach out to all of your neighbors. Make local Party Politics(The politics of the Republican and Democrat Party), not the politics of the Elections and their candidates. That's not an election, that's a "Selection" you get to chose from and squabble over the scraps, after the election at the party level has taken place and the candidates are confirmed. Or the local issues like school boards, and fascist commie creeps in local politics. Get your community active in the local Party affairs', and follow it like it's the hottest Sports season ever recorded. Know all of the fuckers, who's who and what's what, like you know Kobe Bryant's career plays and teams he's been on.

I'm ready to start news letters, and Political Trading cards.
5   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 21, 5:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Good Luck.

The local law enforcement also are Public Employee Union Sisters and Brothers.

Paul Tsongas and Ross Perot both said in their 1992 Presidential runs, they start at the School Board level and work their way up into statewide and national politics. I heard Tsongas in an interview back then say that such local politics can be the nastiest, meanest politics of all.

I see more and more families in my area sending their kids to private and charter schools.
6   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 21, 5:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
Good Luck.

The local law enforcement also are Public Employee Union Sisters and Brothers.

Paul Tsongas and Ross Perot both said in their 1992 Presidential runs, they start at the School Board level and work their way up into statewide and national politics. I heard Tsongas in an interview back then say that such local politics can be the nastiest, meanest politics of all.

I see more and more families in my area sending their kids to private and charter schools.

Teachers union is anti police, they support defunding police.
7   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 22, 8:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
Also don’t stop signature collection, it means it’s working if they are hiring gangs to stop it. That means you are winning, and they are on defense.

I agree.

If they're worried enough to try to block signatures, they are definitely worried you might succeed!
8   krc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 22, 10:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Yes. But now look at the intimidation going on in Solano county. We have become a bully-ocracy - same as what happened election night with Trump supports "removed" from the review process. Houses are getting vandalized and on the community boards, the stories are appalling. It is Portland on a smaller scale - literally. Toe the line or ... else. Anyone who puts up a "let them play" sign or "re-open now" sign is targeted.

This board is pathetic. When I asked for help - someone out here could have said "where do I need to go!" Until we get the bodies on the ground like antifa we will go nowhere. Forget what the press says - we know that all violence to the MSM is only from "the right". "Left" attacks are just fine - so we are already at war whether you want to recognize that or not. When I have to drive down to defend my wife and her friends from bullies in ALAMO - a supposedly high end "fortress" area - we are lost.

As well, we need to do it right: calmly, rationally, judiciously, and fairly. We held our own, but it would have been nice to have more numbers - especially when agitators come around provoking people who don't know what is going on and why they are being bullied.

Whatever. See you all in the gulag.

And teachers pressuring students to demand only remote....

The only reason this is even news now is that there is probably some parent at abc7 that is pissed at schools not being open. This is not generally getting covered.
The CTA needs to be broken.

And "open schools now" isn't even a true political division. It is one topic that can actually unite a disparate group of voters. I would say majority that want schools and sports open are conservative, but there is a substantial and very large group of traditional liberals who are livid at the overt power of the CTA and the lack of education that is happening. Look at SF having to sue its own school board. Chicago having to force teachers to go back and do their jobs. And still the admin leaders in the districts here make close to 400k - and get raises when the teachers win at the negotiating table as well. There is no true accountability.

To those pointing out that we need to serve on election boards - we also need to be on all school boards, PTA, community business zones, etc... School boards CAN be powerful if they are not simply the mouthpiece of the CTA.

I know many strong conservatives/libertarians/classical liberals, both religious and not, simply retracting into a shell and going it alone, attempting to ignore what is going on around them. That will not work anymore.
9   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 22, 10:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
The local law enforcement also are Public Employee Union Sisters and Brothers.

This is the biggest problem. Unions once served a purpose, but that is now a century past almost. They're literally mafia at this point. They hold the public hostage with little to no identifiable end game. Public sector unions have needed to be eliminated for decades at this point. It's a system where you negotiate against yourself as a taxpayer and in the case of teachers they can just refuse to work for the dumbest things. Covid being one and they'll ask for a "hazard" pay raise now because of Covid.

It's kind of sad. If I know I'm a good or better teacher, I want to make more than someone with the same credentials if they're a lesser teacher in the actual classroom. Unions screw the public and in the process damage what would be good teachers potentially, and that trickles down to kids. It's also why we end up with bad cops as well. I despise unions.
10   krc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 22, 10:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I think we have to separate union leadership from membership. The membership is usually much more split than "leadership" presents.
11   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2021 Feb 23, 8:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I used to say, "you are reaping the consequences of your LibbyFuck votes, enjoy!", but now with voter fraud rampant and institutionalized, I am not so sure anybody voted for these fucking fucks.

But now, we have to vote to get fleas back out?

High schools in San Ramon that I have seen, by the way, look more like a modern junior college campus than a typical high school. They were pretty lavish with the old tax dollars.
12   krc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 23, 9:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Yes. The new builds are like high end JC - Dougherty Valley for one rivals many 4 year colleges in terms of aesthetics.

And, don't get started on tax dollars. As of 3-4 years ago, no local taxes go to the schools. Unlike almost every other state, CA receives local taxes back to Sacramento centrally and they dole out based on need. So, that is why SR does zero funding for athletics - it is all parent donation. Versus Oakland, where they get far more dollars per pupil, and sports are funded as part of the general ed fund for that district. Long term, it is not sustainable. The traditional "fortress" areas are slowly declining in school quality because the funding is so disparate and there is NOTHING you can really do locally to improve the schools since you cannot earmark funding,

But, when you talk about how funding changed a few years back, no one believes it. They think the high RE taxes are for their own local schools. They are not.

Essentially, school funding is now deeply entrenched into the "take from the wealthy, give to the poor" mentality. The real goal is to make good school districts just as shitty as the bad ones. Covid has probably saved the RE values in the fortress areas. Not sure that will still be the case once Covid is over and everyone realizes their schools suck. I have seen the quality decline rapidly over the last 5 years.

Sure - good districts attract good/smart families that value education. There is merit and statistical studies that show per pupil spending doesn't correlate to outcome very well.
But it will be a long term regression to the mean - and if you starve a school district long enough there is no more ways to cut. So - you go to oakland and every middle school has great new basketball gyms, track fields, etc..

District Per Student Funding (2018 to 2019 school year)
Oakland $11,591
Antioch $10,996
San Leandro $10,131
Berkeley $9,663
Mt. Diablo $9,376
Livermore Valley Joint $9,036
Pleasanton $8,984
Dublin $8,973
San Ramon Valley $8,658
13   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2021 Feb 23, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Making chicken salad out of chicken shit seems to be the repetitive goal requiring ever more futile alchemy expenditures for the union classes. it has simply become an excuse to turn tax dollars into funding for political infiltration, sedition and, of all things, anti-education.

Looking at the titles for seminars at teacher's conferences they have quite a recipe for garbled and inane, meaningless dialectic, when they are really just looking for excuses for tax payer funded hotel vacations to snort, drink, and fuck.

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