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Changing opinion on COVID fatalty: "India Strain" is dangerous.: I suggest caution.

By farmer2021 follow farmer2021   2021 May 8, 10:32pm 828 views   68 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Here is what I consider as a COVID death irrespective of comorbidity
A person who would have likely survived at least "6 months" more without COVID should be considered COVID death.
It likely has to be decided over larger sample as individual probability is hard to decide.
Things like normal deaths during that period can be used as yardstick.
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Some people have communist thinking that we shouldn't care deaths with comorbidity as it eventual helps the system(party).
In democratic system there is always reasonable effort made to save life unlike in communist where "system" is above individual.
In the end everybody dies if not COVID something else, so we all have expiry date.
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I have this viewpoint for last year or so that COVID is promoted as more dangerous than it actually is.
I have argued in favor of "stop the fearmongering" and just take reasonable precautions.
I was totally against the lock downs.
Based on all the statistics and listening from friends and network, It suggested COVID fatality rate is minor.

I can't suggest same for India.
The condition of people is miserable. Many people under 50 I know have died. Last count was 10+ and after that I am not keeping track as too many cases of different ages.
Reasons may be polluted air in india or people living in close proximity, But the ravging done by COVID is real as anyone with contacts in India can tell you.
I am open to "change of mind" if the proof to contrary , But suggest exercise caution.

This guy is presenting "scary" mismatch between Government numbers and what is happening on ground.
Now if he is doing "propaganda" and is a low life , I have no way to tell.
You can check his tweets and judge for yourself.

https://twitter.com/deepakpatel_91/status/1391261649223524353

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29   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 9, 10:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

http://www.irishsavant.net/?p=547

The amount of disinformation and misinformation on India’s “Covid crisis” is now so vast that it’s hard to know where to begin to untangle the web of deceit and lies. ‘The Guardian’ on the 3rd May 2021. The article in question was headlined “Covering India’s Covid crisis: ‘Hundreds of journalists have lost their lives’”. This is a blatant lie. The current situation unfolding in India is actually only affecting two places in particular, Delhi and Mumbai. So this is far from almost everyone in the country, a grand total of 1.4 billion people. But the main “area of concern” is currently Delhi. Step outside of these two areas and you’ll find that the rest of India is carrying on as normal.

But the propaganda doesn’t end there. Later on in the article ‘The Guardian’ ask their South Asia correspondent ‘What needs to happen now in order for the crisis to abate?’ Here’s the answer that was given – “The only thing that is going to get us out of this crisis is vamping up vaccine production and distribution.” Prior to the Covid Vaccine roll-out the Indian Government had been treating the citizens of India with Ivermectin. . India began using Ivermectin late August 2020, and as you can see from the graph [in the link below] it had great success in reducing the number of daily deaths attributed to Covid-19.

However for some strange reason they switched tack in January to the experimental Covid vaccines, but didn’t really get going with the vaccine roll-out until the end of February. Fast forward two weeks and the deaths attributed to Covid-19, which had almost flat lined suddenly started to rise at an unexplained and exponential rate compared to the rate previously seen in India.
30   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 9, 11:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
http://www.irishsavant.net/?p=547

The amount of disinformation and misinformation on India’s “Covid crisis” is now so vast that it’s hard to know where to begin to untangle the web of deceit and lies. ‘The Guardian’ on the 3rd May 2021. The article in question was headlined “Covering India’s Covid crisis: ‘Hundreds of journalists have lost their lives’”. This is a blatant lie. The current situation unfolding in India is actually only affecting two places in particular, Delhi and Mumbai. So this is far from almost everyone in the country, a grand total of 1.4 billion people. But the main “area of concern” is currently Delhi. Step outside of these two areas and you’ll find that the rest of India is carrying on as normal.

But the propaganda doesn’t end there. Later on in the article ‘The Guardian’ ask their South Asia correspondent ‘What needs to happen now in order for t...


I have strong inclination that Bill and Milinda are evil people and this author is onto something regarding their evil plan.
But He is spreading falsehood that only Delhi is suffering.
Every city is in dumps. The so called silicon valley of India has a huge scam in allocation of beds .. condition same everywhere as many more patients than hospital beds.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/bribe-for-bed-scam-bengaluru-official-social-media-disappointment-1800133-2021-05-08

These people should stop this propaganda and report truth.



In this chart you can generate data for different cities, COVID cases are exploding everywhere.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrabad+COVID&ei=j9OYYJGLF9L1-gSL-KOABA&oq=hydrabad+COVID&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyDQgAELEDEIMBEMkDEEMyCggAELEDEIMBEEMyCggAELEDEIMBEAoyBAgAEEMyBAgAEAoyBAgAEAoyCggAELEDEIMBEAoyBAgAEAoyBAgAEAoyBAgAEAo6BwgAEEcQsAM6BwgAELEDEAo6CgguEMcBEK8BEApQ6DhY90JgwURoAXABeACAAaMBiAH_BJIBAzQuMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjRjpqRv77wAhXSup4KHQv8CEAQ4dUDCA0&uact=5
32   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 May 10, 9:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Variants is a bigger load of Bullshit, than the Virus itself.

First off all they do is RNA tests to determine if the deceased had Corona or not, the last I checked the RNA test doesn't conclude it was indeed Corna virus 100% let alone what fucking Commie Strain.
33   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 9:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
Variants is a bigger load of Bullshit, than the Virus itself.

First off all they do is RNA tests to determine if the deceased had Corona or not, the last I checked the RNA test doesn't conclude it was indeed Corna virus 100% let alone what fucking Commie Strain.


I am not sure what it is.
Its a sad situation in India due to large number of people dead.
People need $2k per day of hospital stay and no insurance. The median income is $2k per year.
There are public hospital , which have no resources at all.

i think India has no resources to do full testing. The only think "private people" can do is look at symptoms and average "death rate" increase and see the impact of COVID on death rate.
Govt is in hiding and most likley they will either resign or dragged on street and chased like Gadaffi.(my preference for these criminals)
This time Bhartis should ensure no traitors come to power again.
34   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 May 10, 10:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Biden is killing the millions in India, they flourished and brushed Covid off under Trump.
The Commie Cabal with Biden demands they get with the program or get in the back of the line.
You wanna come to the Biden America with open borders, and foreign workers get fast tracked ahead of Tax paying Americans. Then you better get your fucking pillows out, roll up your sleeves and start snuffing out Elderly patients in your medical and Senior facilities. It's easy to do, furlough all of the competent straight shooting nurses and Doctors home. Hire only Satanic Humanity loathing Leftist Commies, kill anyone that steps foot in the Hospital, all of the honest staff are unemployed and not there to blow the whistle. And to combat boredom, for not having any viable patients they didn't snuff out in the middle of the night, make many Tic Toc videos with the complete hospital staff dancing. I think it's a confirmation video, so they get bonuses from CDC and WHO and the Biden Satanic Covent.

The Corona virus recovery rate for those that don't go to the hospital is 100%.

Once you go, you never come back.
35   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 10:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@Tenpoundbass
You paint a very dark present and future.
Hope we can do better. There are 10s of millions of Americans who “care for country and citizens”.
They will save the day for us.
Enjoy your day.

I am hopeful for India too, Poor we’re living bad life anyway, Now 10% of top have tasted the hardships of poor and some change will likely come.
36   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 May 10, 10:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

farmer2021 says
You paint a very dark present and future.
Hope we can do better. There are 10s of millions of Americans who “care for country and citizens”.
They will save the day for us.


Tens of millions had their votes flipped for a Communist regime hostile take over.
You're damn right we'll save the day, we're working around the clock to bring it all to light. That is why the Satanic Communist Cabal are livid trying to stop it. They thought by smearing everyone as a dissident and turning the FBI and DOJ on the American citizens would just shut us up, like other countries with a meek society with no balls. Just rolls over and lets the Commies fuck them all up the Ass.

It's not happening here, so keep the confidence that we will keep the pressure up, to expose them and send them all back to the bowels of Hell.

This is America, and if you don't know what it's about. It's not a fucking Geographic location. It's self determined people that refuse to bend and relent to tyranny and low IQ scumbags, that think they can just take what Americans have created, by getting a stamp on a piece of paper, and street address in some choice zipcode.

It's much harder work than that to be an American.
37   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 May 10, 11:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Even the India you describe a Hindu hospital would kill people not Hindu.
And the Sikhs would kill Hindus and Muslims.
Just blame it on Covid and wait for the CDC check to clear.
38   porkchopexpress   ignore (0)   2021 May 10, 11:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

What if all these people dying in India is part of the Elites' depopulation agenda? I bet they're just killing off the unhealthy, elderly and poor who are a "suck on society".
39   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 11:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
farmer2021 says
You paint a very dark present and future.
Hope we can do better. There are 10s of millions of Americans who “care for country and citizens”.
They will save the day for us.


Tens of millions had their votes flipped for a Communist regime hostile take over.
You're damn right we'll save the day, we're working around the clock to bring it all to light. That is why the Satanic Communist Cabal are livid trying to stop it. They thought by smearing everyone as a dissident and turning the FBI and DOJ on the American citizens would just shut us up, like other countries with a meek society with no balls. Just rolls over and lets the Commies fuck them all up the Ass.

It's not happening here, so keep the confidence that we will keep the pressure up, to expose them and send them all back to the bowels of Hell.

This is America, and if you don't know what it's about. It's...


It is temporary setback. May be sometimes things happen for good.
May be COVID is wake up call to top 50% or so in US and 10% or so in India that they can't ignore the plight of rest.
US manufacturing is destroyed and workers called "trailer trash/white rednecks" etc. to ignore their economic concerns..
Once communism takes hold, It is hard to uproot... I am positive that US will overcome this challenge.

Regarding Bharat , It is till run by London globalists through proxy Hindoo cult.. But people are waking up.
Large scale voluntary movement of upright people from Hindoo cult to Sikhism is certain.
(There used to be tradition of Hindooo families to have their elder Son as Sikh, Must come back as Khalsa is defender of Bharat)
40   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 12:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
Even the India you describe a Hindu hospital would kill people not Hindu.
And the Sikhs would kill Hindus and Muslims.
Just blame it on Covid and wait for the CDC check to clear.


Commoners are all Bhartis and want welfare of Bharat.(Like ordinary Americans)
Hindooo cult remote controlled by globalists is danger , Buts its days are numbered and Khalsa will beat it and bring "true freedom" to Bhartis.


Sikhs perform well in hour of need:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/sikhs-delhi-serving-free-food-103219194.html
Sikhs in New Delhi serving free food to Covid-19 patients and their families

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/delhi-at-gurdwara-oxygen-langar-many-covid-patients-get-a-breath-of-life-7305005/
Delhi: At gurdwara oxygen langar, many Covid patients get a breath of life
The “oxygen langar” at the gurdwara was set up two weeks ago by Khalsa Help International and Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/if-you-want-anything-done-get-the-sikhs-community-wins-admirers-for-bushfire-and-covid-aid
'If you want anything done, get the Sikhs': community wins admirers for bushfire and Covid aid

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/dining/free-food-sikh-gundwara-langar.html
How to Feed Crowds in a Protest or Pandemic? The Sikhs Know
Their centuries-old faith tradition of nourishing anyone in need has found new energy and purpose in America’s turmoil.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/sikhs-step-up-welcome-oroville-dam-evacuees-in-their-temples/42164/
Sikhs Step Up, Welcome Oroville Dam Evacuees to Their Temples
"It's just hardwired into us and our religion," Harsimran Singh aid. "Anytime someone needs help, we need to be there."

https://www.thebetterindia.com/53531/golden-kitchen-10-things-didnt-know-langar-golden-temple-amritsar/
50,000 Free Hot Meals a Day and 9 Other Amazing Facts About the Langar at the Golden Temple
41   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 12:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

porkchopexpress says
What if all these people dying in India is part of the Elites' depopulation agenda? I bet they're just killing off the unhealthy, elderly and poor who are a "suck on society".


@porkchopexpress
I think it is very real possibility. Fascism and communism consider people less important than system.
Although Fascism and communism claim to be in conflict, But both are same "control freak criminal cults".
You can see that "Freedom loving" Americans have fought both Fascism(2nd world war) and Communism.. There is a reason for us to oppose both.

India is getting doubly hit.. Fascist India government controlled by communist global elite.
Common Bhartis are in very painful and cruel system.
42   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 12:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

https://twitter.com/Marco_Acortes/status/341578219176214528
Corona virus....its coming


https://www.india.com/viral/this-twitter-user-predicted-coronavirus-8-years-ago-in-2013-people-are-freaking-out-check-out-his-tweet-4653432/
This Twitter User ‘Predicted’ Coronavirus in 2013 & People Are Freaking Out | Check Out His Tweet
A tweet predicting coronavirus by a random Twitter user is going viral on the internet right now and people are extremely intrigued.
43   Booger   ignore (6)   2021 May 10, 1:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Putting India's Death Rate into Perspective

The corporate media fearmongers are claiming there are 120 COVID deaths per hour in India.

Let's put things into perspective, shall we?

120 COVID deaths/hour x 24 hours x 365 days = 1,051,200 Indian COVID deaths a year.

India has the second highest population in the world at 1,391,000,000.

1,051,200 / 1,391,000,000 100 = 0.0756% of the Indian population dead with COVID in a year.

And that's allegedly the highest death rate right now.

The USA has a population of 332,000,000 and claims to have had over 500,000 COVID deaths in a year.

Just think of how many US citizens would be DEAD with a death rate like that of India!!!

332,000,000
0.0756% = 250,992 USA COVID deaths a year.

Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...
44   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 1:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says
Putting India's Death Rate into Perspective

The corporate media fearmongers are claiming there are 120 COVID deaths per hour in India.

Let's put things into perspective, shall we?

120 COVID deaths/hour x 24 hours x 365 days = 1,051,200 Indian COVID deaths a year.

India has the second highest population in the world at 1,391,000,000.

1,051,200 / 1,391,000,000 100 = 0.0756% of the Indian population dead with COVID in a year.

And that's allegedly the highest death rate right now.

The USA has a population of 332,000,000 and claims to have had over 500,000 COVID deaths in a year.

Just think of how many US citizens would be DEAD with a death rate like that of India!!!

332,000,000
0.0756% = 250,992 USA COVID deaths a year.

Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...


@booger
The numbered are severely under counted.
The range of discrepancy is 5-25x as per many experts. Let us take middle number if 15x , so total COVID deaths until now are:
246K*15 = 3.7M
Now if this number is scary for 1400M population country, This can be personal viewpoint as it is still very low.

Even per govt data, 22.7-18.7-.246 = 3.7M active cases. This is very concerning for medial system.
Cases
22.7M
Recovered
18.7M
Deaths
246K
45   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2021 May 10, 1:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says
Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...

Math doesn't exist anymore. 1M dying in a country of 1.4B is a massive nothing burger. The land mass itself is large, but not for the population. So yeah, it's going to be more grizzly looking than the US, where much of the country is rural. If we all lived East of the Mississippi our situation could be worse. We don't.

It's pure hype. And IF the Indians dying are actually dying of covid, that sucks. But the numbers on paper are super low. The narrative is the problem. It's meant to scare you, us, or anyone.
46   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 1:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Now we can chose to ignore threads like below.
I have relatives in Rural Punjab and thankfully nobody have COVID, So I can't tell if this guy is sensationalizing or telling truth.
But i can gurantee you this, If indeed 125 people died of COVID they won't be counted.
In last wave we had 2 deaths of people in 70s last year in rural Punjab in our close circle and nobody came to record it as covid death.

https://twitter.com/saurabh_lohani/status/1391840185596350464
According to a news report from UP, within a week 125 people died in just 2 villages bordering North Lucknow due to COVID. There is Neither test, nor medicine. People are complaining of cough, chest tightness & dying.
Village after village Corona has spread like a wild fire.
47   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 1:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Booger says
Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...

Math doesn't exist anymore. 1M dying in a country of 1.4B is a massive nothing burger. The land mass itself is large, but not for the population. So yeah, it's going to be more grizzly looking than the US, where much of the country is rural. If we all lived East of the Mississippi our situation could be worse. We don't.

It's pure hype. And IF the Indians dying are actually dying of covid, that sucks. But the numbers on paper are super low. The narrative is the problem. It's meant to scare you, us, or anyone.


We can chose to ignore the plight of "poor Indian" folks dying and attribute it to they breeding beyond resources.
It is not humanly possible for outsider to help that vast population anyway.

But we are not as isolated as you may think from tragedy there.
The deadly cocktails of anti-virals, steroids and what not given in absence of qualified doctors will cause many hardy and dangerous mutations which can become problem for whole world.
48   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 2:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Best Quote.
https://twitter.com/YRDeshmukh/status/1391820955215966215
So according to the much celebrated global media outlets, the Corona variants are Brazil variant, South Africa variant, UK variant, India variant and so on, but the original virus is just Covid. Not Chinese. Let that sink in.

Well played China. Well played.
49   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 May 10, 2:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

farmer2021 says
125 people died in just 2 villages bordering North Lucknow due to COVID. There is Neither test, nor medicine

If there's no test how do they know it's the Wuhan?
50   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 2:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
farmer2021 says
125 people died in just 2 villages bordering North Lucknow due to COVID. There is Neither test, nor medicine

If there's no test how do they know it's the Wuhan?


I will give you example , Not specific to this particular case.
There is 1 person dies every month in village , But last month 20 died and they all had some symptoms similar to COVID.

What will you assume?
51   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 5:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

How the Govt officials are trying to mark deaths as COVID unrelated.
It is opposite of what is done in US by Xiden folks.... Call every death COVID.
I hate when politics take over health care and statistics are massaged for detriment of welfare of citizens.

If this repeats in every village(I would be surprised if It won't), There are probably millions of people already died of COVID.
There are "664,369" villages in India , If we take average of 5 dead... It comes down to:
664,369*5=~3M in last month , Typically India as a whole record 27k deaths a day... This IS 810K .
So 3M Rural + Urban deaths can clearly be contrasted with expected 800K normal deaths.


https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/150-attended-burial-of-covid-positive-man-21-dead-in-rajasthan-village-2437731
150 Attended Burial Of Covid Positive Man, 21 Dead In Rajasthan Village
"Only 3-4 deaths have occurred due to COVID-19 out of 21 deaths. A majority of deaths are from older age group. We have taken sample of 147 members of families where deaths have occurred to check whether it is COVID-19 community transmission," Lakshmangarh sub-divisional officer Kulraj Meena told PTI on Saturday.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/rohtak-village-grapples-with-covid-mystery-fever-talk-as-18-die-in-10-days-7310129/
Rohtak village grapples with Covid, ‘mystery fever’ talk as 18 die in 10 days
Dismissing these figures as “exaggerated”, health officials admit the village is in the grips of the pandemic. On Monday, 15 out of 75 people who tested for the virus were found Covid positive. In the past 10 days, 159 of the 746 people tested from Titoli and neighbouring villages were found positive.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/gujarat/story/second-wave-hits-gujarats-rural-pockets-village-loses-90-people-to-covid-1798928-2021-05-05
Second wave hits Gujarat's rural pockets; village loses 90 people to Covid
Meanwhile, Varun Barnawal, Bhavnagar's District Development Officer, declined to acknowledge that 90 people had died in the previous 20 days.
“Eight emergency response teams have been dispatched. Furthermore, an increasing number of people are being screened and tracked down in order to control the Covid-19 outbreak in the village,” added Varun Barnawal.
52   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 5:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

There seems 100s of stories like this. It appears like it is easy to go to any village and find disproportionate deaths in last month.

https://thefederal.com/covid-19/2-weeks-10-villages-239-mysterious-deaths-covid-now-batters-rural-india/
2 weeks, 10 villages, 239 ‘mysterious’ deaths: COVID now batters rural India


https://theprint.in/health/1-covid-death-in-this-up-village-was-followed-by-another-25-but-official-toll-is-silent/652089/
1 Covid death in this UP village was followed by another 25. But official toll is silent
Doctors on the ground in Shahjahanpur say residents of the village are reluctant to get tested, though residents deny this. Local authorities admit to delayed test reports.


https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/haryana/25-deaths-in-hisar-village-in-2-weeks-249317
25 deaths in Hisar village in 2 weeks

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/punjab-16-deaths-put-the-fear-of-covid-in-a-tarn-taran-village-7308728/
16 deaths in 4 weeks, panic in Punjab village

https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/check-out-this-inspiring-story-of-rajasthan-village-that-fought-back-against-covid-19-and-won
This is a story of a village that witnessed 25 deaths and 87 Covid positive cases in 10 days. It fought back and now there is only one positive case left. Village sarpanch, a lady named Rasalidevi Meena and her team imposed lockdown in the village for 10 days; put check posts on the entries of the village and mass sampling was done. Now the village is almost Covid free.
53   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 May 10, 9:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Perhaps our homeless camps will be the next victims of the Indian variant of the Wuhan.
54   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 9:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Perhaps our homeless camps will be the next victims of the Indian variant of the Wuhan.


That is the worry and it won't be just "homeless" shanties.
Hindooo cult is incompetent, If western countries don't offer help and basically manage it for India the whole world will be engulfed by this "mutating" virus hardened by Indiscriminate use of medicines by Indians without any physician supervision.... No amount of border control will resolve it.
All should help India to get over it.
55   MMR   ignore (0)   2021 May 10, 10:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
If we all lived East of the Mississippi our situation could be worse. We don't.


LA county is more dense than NJ and more so if you don’t consider the mountains where few people live and greatly outperformed both NJ and NY

85% of Sweden 10.2 million population lives on only 3% of the landmass; they have also greatly outperformed the worst hit parts of the US and most of the places in the EU that employed lockdowns.

San Francisco is pretty dense and didn’t get hit as hard as any place from the Northeast or mid-Atlantic. Not


There may be a relationship between population density and case rate but not a very strong one.
57   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 10:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
It looks like the virus in India may have peaked already:


Look at all the links I have posted.
People see no value in getting tested as they already know following:
1) If they have symptoms , They have COVID.
2) If they have COVID, There is no hospital to go to.
3) They are scared that COVID test will have forced government quarantine, which people believe is killing ground as it has no medical facilities..just packing people like sardines to die without impacting others.
4) No test and no death recorded if you don't die in hospital, which is very small percentage.The death number is proportional to hospital or ICU beds capacity, Not the people dying.... I think as more ICU beds are reserved for elites to occupy if need.. The official death number likely will come down whereas actual deaths are skyrocketing.

@patrick
If you read some of the links I have shared, You would be able to understand the situation.
58   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 May 10, 10:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Maybe the jab gives you covid?
59   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 10, 10:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Maybe the jab gives you covid?


@Onvacation @patrick
You may be on to something. As I reported before the "Hindoo vaccine" manufacturer ran away to London.
All the rich Hindoooo perpetrators go to London after committing crime. I think he is likely worried that there may be strong correlation between his "jab" and people dying and he is protecting himself by finding ridiculous excuses

Serum's Adar Poonawalla moves to London, cites threatening phone calls from powerful people
https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/siis-adar-poonawalla-moves-to-london-cites-threatening-phone-calls-from-powerful-people/story/438035.html
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60   komputodo   ignore (3)   2021 May 10, 11:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

farmer2021 says
I am open to "change of mind" if the proof to contrary , But suggest exercise caution.

Should I go into lockdown and wear triples masks? Or maybe get double dosages of the vaccine?
61   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 11, 12:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
farmer2021 says
I am open to "change of mind" if the proof to contrary , But suggest exercise caution.

Should I go into lockdown and wear triples masks? Or maybe get double dosages of the vaccine?


Trust your guts and exercise your freedom of choice with giving chance for others to do so too.
62   komputodo   ignore (3)   2021 May 11, 2:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

farmer2021 says
Trust your guts and exercise your freedom of choice with giving chance for others to do so too.

Thats how I roll......too bad the msm doesn't agree with you.
63   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 11, 3:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
farmer2021 says
Trust your guts and exercise your freedom of choice with giving chance for others to do so too.

Thats how I roll......too bad the msm doesn't agree with you.


Easy said than done.
If some Sikh guys regularly rob the store , I would still hate to see "No Sikhs allowed" sign on the window.
Same way .. Can the store put "No mask, No entry" signs..or is it curtailing freedom of healthy people against mask?
64   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 11, 5:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

farmer2021 says
If some Sikh guys regularly rob the store , I would still hate to see "No Sikhs allowed" sign on the window.


So you are saying that we should judge people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin?

Such talk can get you fired or even jailed these days.

farmer2021 says
Can the store put "No mask, No entry" signs..or is it curtailing freedom of healthy people against mask?




If you're gay, a private business can be forced to bake you a wedding cake.

But if you're healthy, the business cannot be forced to let you enter without a mask.

Something is very wrong with this.
65   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 11, 6:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@patrick
I am trying to say that "centrist" and "logical" people need to be in charge and their mandate should be to bring maximum benefit to all without punishing the producers.
This "racism" business is cooked by CCP to make Americans fight each other on small things and don't bother them while they loot our tech and money ASAP.

So There are two extremes:
1) Looking at India if someone says that no precaution is necessary.. I consider that person extremist.
2) Looking at situation last year in US, If someone says that shut everything down,.. I also consider that person extremist.

... Extreme Lefties and righties are perfect foil for globalists to cause mayhem.
the "sikh example" is given to show, No matter what s forced down our throats.. The "pattern matching" will happen in our brains... so only way for your community to raise profile is not to indulge in all that..... I was alluding to "Hyper freedomites" who don't see common good in attenuating it a bit.
66   komputodo   ignore (3)   2021 May 11, 9:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

farmer2021 says
This "racism" business is cooked by CCP

Now you are saying that this whole BLM and reparations and looting and fighting in the airports is a creation of the chinaman communist party? WOW
67   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 11, 9:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
farmer2021 says
This "racism" business is cooked by CCP

Now you are saying that this whole BLM and reparations and looting and fighting in the airports is a creation of the chinaman communist party? WOW


I'm pretty certain that it is funded and encouraged by the CCP.

The more we fight with each other, the less we talk about what China is doing with help from our treasonous elite, people like Bezos and Gates.
68   farmer2021   ignore (10)   2021 May 11, 9:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I'm pretty certain that it is funded and encouraged by the CCP.

The more we fight with each other, the less we talk about what China is doing with help from our treasonous elite, people like Bezos and Gates.


Even the liberal(not idiotic lefties) must be worried about CCP. Liberals should ideally hate CCP.
I would like to see liberal vs conservative debate about ideas,size of govt. etc on what can serve better.
Currently all we get are CCP triggered Communist lefties and some crazy whites with fascistic ideas pretending to be conservatives and becoming perfect foil for CCP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/09/28/forgotten-alliance-between-black-activists-china/
The forgotten alliance between Black activists and China
And the warning it carries for U.S. foreign policy

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