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https://spectatorworld.com/topic/ivermectin-horse-skeptics-joe-rogan-covid/

The ivermectin skeptics
Horse dewormer or miracle drug?

September 5, 2021 | 10:58 am

... Pfizer had the first vaccine ready to go before the 2020 election, but selflessly waited until just after the election to make the announcement. They, and the other drug companies in on Operation Warp Speed, have been playing the opening bars of Pink Floyd’s song ‘Money’ nonstop at corporate headquarters ever since. Everyone must be vaccinated, twice (plus boosters) at government (i.e. taxpayer) expense immediately and forever. ...

He showed me a few boxes of ivermectin, told me it was probably an effective therapeutic but it had some serious disadvantages, chief among them is that it was very cheap, and therefore was unsupported by Big Pharma. Consequently, the experts looked down their noses at it, so far down that the politicians, who like the contributions they get from drug companies, basically outlawed its use for COVID. If he prescribed it for COVID, he told me, he could lose his license to practice medicine. ...

Was the recovery propter hoc, because of the ivermectin and other agents, or merely post hoc? Who knows?

But I do know this. It is utterly irresponsible for the establishment media machine to to trash ivermectin categorically. NBC, for example, in reporting Rogan’s diagnosis, screamed that he was taking the ‘widely discredited drug ivermectin’.

Discredited by whom? By St Anthony Fauci, maybe, and Big Pharma, for whom the media acts as PR flaks. ...

The current hostility to ivermectin is of a piece with the earlier hostility to hydroxychloroquine: it was cheap, Donald Trump took it, it must be bad. What really is bad are the proliferating health nazis who are sprouting up like mushrooms — toadstools — everywhere. In some places — Australia, for example, they come bearing the police power of the state and are harassing and incarcerating people for going about their everyday lives. It’s ridiculous. COVID, the original and all its variations thus far, is dangerous to a tiny part of the population. For most of us, it is no more (but also no less) dangerous than the flu. Sure, we should wash our hands and if you are vulnerable you should be take measures to isolate yourselves from risky situations. If I were you, I would also consider stocking up on ivermectin and the other items of Joe Rogan’s cocktail.

Joe Rogan Criticized As 'Anti-Science' For Surviving COVID

https://babylonbee.com/news/progressives-outraged-as-another-person-recovers-from-covid

Joe Rogan: 'I'm Doing Better But I'm Still A Little Hoarse'

Patrick says

Joe Rogan: 'I'm Doing Better But I'm Still A Little Hoarse'

should read: 'I'm Doing Better But I'm Still A Little Horse(paste)'

Exactly.

The Pfizer-government complex must prevent all cheap and effective cures or their whole EUA lie about the necessity for mandating the jab falls apart.

Extremely well written series on 'mectin. The whole story, worthy of rubbing your favorite loony-horse-paste-lefty's nose in. I'm sending to my old pal who always claims she believes "the science" when she really just believes "the TV".
https://rescue.substack.com/p/the-drug-that-cracked-covid-part
https://rescue.substack.com/p/the-drug-that-cracked-covid-part-ab9
https://rescue.substack.com/p/the-drug-that-cracked-covid-part-0b9

https://rescue.substack.com/p/pierre-kory-responds-to-critics-hollywood?token=patrick.net

Pierre Kory Responds to Critics, Hollywood Style

How does this passionate New York City-born liberal like it when he reads The Washington Post headline: “How the right’s ivermectin conspiracy theories led to people buying horse dewormer.” In other words, how does he handle all the horse-#&%@ that has been piled on ivermectin the past couple weeks?

He doesn’t like it. He loves it. “Bring it on!” Kory often tells his 120,000 Twitter followers. Nobody ever debates Kory. Here’s why: Kory’s technical round knockout of Dr. Garegnani.

So he was delighted when Florida newspaper publisher Matt Walsh asked him to respond to a ferocious critic of the newspaper’s ivermectin coverage, a critic with real credentials—a University of Michigan professor—in a Q&A debate. “I’ve never had more fun than answering these questions,” Kory says. “It was like shooting fish in a barrel.” ...

Dr. Pierre Kory responds: 63 positive studies exceed most approved drugs
The most easily quantifiable way to describe the indefensible lack of “approval” for ivermectin in COVID-19 is to note the actual amount of supportive clinical trials evidence in COVID-19, both randomized (31) and observational (32), including more than 26,000 patients with the near majority of all studies finding at least some important benefit with treatment.

Rin's recipe with a horse paste twist:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n15.shtml

just_passing_through says

Rin's recipe with a horse paste twist:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n15.shtml

I'm still positing that sars cov2 is mainly a respiratory virus where it usually does not leave lasting damage (most of the lung damage was from developed pneumonia as confection). However whenever viruses "escape" their infection habitat they can have serious effects, such as high inflammation/clotting in other organs. This is common to many viruses or bacteria and not a unique feature of sars cov2. For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape into the GI tract or other parts of the body (e.g. after Trauma/surgery) they can cause serious symptoms. The goal should be to let the infection play out in the resp. tract while reducing viral load actively.

https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19




It is nothing short of criminal to prohibit doctors from using a life-saving drug.

mell says

For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape

Those are called opportunistic infections.

just_passing_through says

mell says

For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape

Those are called opportunistic infections.

Right. And there are several streptococcus and other species that live in the mouth and cause great havoc if they escape and cause opportunistic infections in other areas of the body (heart, gi tract etc.). I believe sars cov2 is not much different and should be contained to the upper respiratory tract if possible with medications and general good health.

mell says

I'm still positing that sars cov2 is mainly a respiratory virus

It is... Some people, I think I've heard Malone above say it, think that perhaps the spike protein was engineered to cause clotting etc., I really don't know. Out of my domain.

Naturally I've understood it infects any cells with an ACE-2 receptor. mRNA vaccines on the other hand can potentially go everywhere.

just_passing_through says

Rin's recipe with a horse paste twist:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n15.shtml

The only thing I'd change on that web site is the fact that both HCQ and Ivermectin are Rx pharmaceuticals, re-purposed for Covid-19, whereas the Rin Pill, Quercetin (or better yet, Quercetin Phytosome) is an all natural dietary supplement.

There is absolutely nothing that the FDA can do to it but slander it or its vendors from saying that it has any effect against Covid, which is fine because some customers can say, "Not only have my allergies subsided but my PCRs for Covid have been negative for the entire past year". The FDA can't throw that customer in jail, only say that he's naive or stupid and remind the vendor that it can't put testimonials on its shipping label but on its website site as an opinion piece/testimonial.

just_passing_through says

mell says

For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape

Those are called opportunistic infections.

See Rin's Allisure Allicin, it's got a synergy, on the antiviral side as an immunomodulatory agent and on the antibacterial side, containing [ though not 100% eliminating ] the growth of bacterial pathogens w/o the side effects of an antibiotic.

Rin says

Not only have my allergies subsided

I wish I could say that; maybe I will, it's only been about 6 weeks for me so far.

Rin says

Allicin

That was something that was commonly yacked about in the molecular genetics lab I worked in during the late 90s.

mell says

Right. And there are several streptococcus and other species

Yup, 'commonly opportunistic pathogens'.

I used to play with those in my 'micro'biology lab class in school. Fun stuff! Get to play with Bunsen burners, douse the bench with EtOH and light it ON FIRE! to sterilize the work area (mol-bio does this as well but by then that's not the cool stuff)

That class smelled like shit some days though. Depending on what we were growing.

just_passing_through says

I wish I could say that; maybe I will, it's only been about 6 weeks for me so far.

If you're using Quercetin Dihydrate, drop it, and buy the Quercetin Phytosome.

The former is not very bioavailable and needs all kinds of adjuvants like Bromelain and Olive oil to get any absorption. So for most Dihydrate users, they need to use massive doses like some 2000 to 3000 mg per day to get the same effects as 750-1000 mg of the Phytosome one.

just_passing_through says

Get to play with Bunsen burners, douse the bench with EtOH and light it ON FIRE! to sterilize the work area

I know of one guy in my lab section, who got kicked out of the group, due to such a stunt in front of the TA.

Rin says

I know of one guy in my lab section, who got kicked out of the group, due to such a stunt in front of the TA.

Odd, that is sterilization protocol.

Rin says

If you're using Quercetin Dihydrate, drop it, and buy the Quercetin Phytosome.

I have Phytosome.

Rin says

who got kicked out

I probably would have been disciplined at least if it was ever found out I was the guy putting dry ice into micro centrifuge tubes and depositing into the trash can of a co-worker I liked to eff with. When they exploded they'd often hit the ceiling.

Rin says

If you're using Quercetin Dihydrate, drop it, and buy the Quercetin Phytosome.

Dang it I just reordered. Q is getting scarce on the online vitamin sites BTW. If it doesn't specify on the bottle it is Dihydrate do you reckon?

Robert Sproul says

If it doesn't specify on the bottle it is Dihydrate do you reckon?

It should say Quercetin Dihydrate in the ingredient list, not on the label.

just_passing_through says

I have Phytosome.

The ppl I know, who got rid of their allergies, used some 2000 mg of Turmeric w/ bioperine along with 1000 mg of Quercetin.

I eat a little tumeric with eggs (plus pepper and bacon fat) each morning but that much, nor have I tried that high of a Quercetin dose. I'll try it out.

Mmmm, bacon fat. I used to throw it out, but that was insane!

It's tastier than butter, and a "free" byproduct of cooking bacon. And I honestly think it's not that bad for you.

I really like turmeric too. My sister sent me a big container of it and it makes a nice addition to lots of things for the flavor. And if there really is a health benefit, then that's a bonus.

Patrick says

And I honestly think it's not that bad for you.

It isn't. Fat doesn't make you fat, low fat food items do. Shit the store that says fat free or low fat I stay away from.

You need saturated fat for your brain among other things.

Just stay away from polyunsaturated fats - what they've been pushing on us the past 50 years. "vegetable oil" is really "seed oil", full of omega-6 which is highly inflammatory and will fuck up your arteries.

Eat butter too. And olive oil, coconut oil, avacado oil and beef tallow.

Patrick says

I really like turmeric too.

I have a big bin of it but to make it work pharmaceutically it needs to be fresh and mine isn't. Buy the root and grind it yourself and eat it within 2-3 weeks. The sooner the better.

Otherwise it's just adding color and flavor.

just_passing_through says

Eat butter too. And olive oil, coconut oil, avacado oil and beef tallow.

I am a convert to your religion!

They all sound good to me.

I like fresh turmeric too, it's kind of like ginger.

I lost a lot of weight switching to real animal fats and lowering my carbs, my cooking got better and I eat less because I'm satiated quicker and longer. I can actually fast for long periods quite easily now that my body learned to burn fat.

Carb addicts may have a hard time at first until their body is retrained. It takes a while. Fortunately I've always sort of eaten that way so it wasn't hard for me.

Lately I've been eating broccoli sprouts daily. #1 super food. I grow it in mason jars. Check out some of Dr. Rhonda Patrick's videos. She's pretty awesome.

I'm trying to eat nothing with any cane sugar in it for all of September.

It's rather difficult. I think I'm making it up in alcohol.

Oh, and fish oil. I just supplement with that or eat fish. Lately lots of shrimp too to counteract any iodine issues from the broccoli sprouts. I should really start eating smoked oysters for zinc or something.

I still tend to eat fish on Friday, just because it was a thing when I was growing up. And because I like fish.

just_passing_through says

Eat butter too. And olive oil, coconut oil, avacado oil and beef tallow.

Coconut oil is on the good list? I thought is was as bad as vegetable oil. Coconut oil has cooking advantages, so I want it to be healthy.