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Employees Are Quitting Instead of Giving Up Working From Home


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2021 Jun 1, 9:34am   544 views  17 comments

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-01/return-to-office-employees-are-quitting-instead-of-giving-up-work-from-home

The drive to get people back into offices is clashing with workers who’ve embraced remote work as the new normal. ...

Some have lamented the perils of remote work, saying it diminishes collaboration and company culture. JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s Jamie Dimon said at a recent conference that it doesn’t work “for those who want to hustle.”

But legions of employees aren’t so sure. If anything, the past year has proved that lots of work can be done from anywhere, sans lengthy commutes on crowded trains or highways. Some people have moved. ...

And for Twidt, there’s also the notion that some bosses, particularly those of a generation less familiar to remote work, are eager to regain tight control of their minions.

“They feel like we’re not working if they can’t see us,” she said. ...

The lack of commutes and cost savings are the top benefits of remote work, according to a FlexJobs survey of 2,100 people released in April. More than a third of the respondents said they save at least $5,000 per year by working remotely. ...

Now he does freelance work and helps his girlfriend grow her art business. He used to spend two hours each day commuting; now the couple is considering selling their car and instead relying on bikes.

One of the main benefits, he says, is more control over his own time: “I can just do whatever I want around the house, like a quick chore didn’t have to wait until like 8 p.m. anymore, or I can go for a quick walk.”


I think this is going to drive down the cost of real estate in city centers. And maybe the value of automobile stocks.

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1   WookieMan   2021 Jun 1, 10:51am  

Patrick says
I think this is going to drive down the cost of real estate in city centers. And maybe the value of automobile stocks.

Autos will be fine I think. More free time not commuting will lead to more free time for activities. Even the best of places, nearby bike distance activities will get boring. I think most will keep their car and if not get a bigger car to accommodate activities since they're not paying for as much gas/parking/maintenance. Insurance rates should go down so cars become a touch more affordable as well if you're not commuting.

Real estate is the big question mark. I'd start tracking commercial office space real estate in cities. That starts collapsing, which I think it will but will take time as most notes are 5 years and leases 5-10, then residential will follow in cities. I think living in a city proper now is a losing bet over the next 5 years. The loss of people to the burbs or rural will result in a big increase in crime along with lost office spaces. Chicago is already seeing it as people have been leaving besides a very few select neighborhoods.
2   Rin   2021 Jun 1, 11:19am  

WookieMan says
I think living in a city proper now is a losing bet


Hey, I moved out of downtown Boston, once my corporate subsidy ended & while Boston is nowhere near the crime cesspool of a Philly or a Chicago, the crime rate did spike starting with the BLM/antiFA summer.

I have no interest in living in any US city now, given the fact that unlike Amsterdam, Sydney, Bangkok, etc, there are no whorehouses in Yankee-town.
3   Ceffer   2021 Jun 1, 11:57am  

We have too few people and not enough reproduction, so we need to open the floodgates to illegals. We have too many people, so we have to eradicate most of the population with vaccines.

We need to herd people into urban cubbyholes and pigeon nests because the suburbs consume too many resources, are too far flung, and don't allow adequate surveillance of the populace for government and labor. We need to turn our cities into shit holes of crime, homelessness, lawlessness, anarchy, chaos and feral militias/gangs enforcing the progressive agenda, so that they are so utterly repulsive nobody wants to live there any more.

I love it when the cluster fuck of Globalist psychopaths can make up their minds like that.
4   Patrick   2021 Jun 1, 12:29pm  

Ceffer says
I love it when the cluster fuck of Globalist psychopaths can make up their minds like that.





The good thing about globalist psychopaths is that they are not unified. If they all had the same ideas and interests, how could we effectively oppose them given that they 100% control and dictate MSM "reporting" and have successfully (so far) committed election fraud on a huge scale? Very Soviet-style.

But they do fight with each other, and this results in some freedom for ordinary people.
5   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 1, 1:33pm  

"They" aren't infallible. There are 2nd, 3rd, 4th Order Effects from COVID and the George St. Fentanyl Explosion they didn't anticipate or thought would be less than they are:

* Parents distrust School Curriculum now that they saw and heard it. Homeschooling is booming and not just for religious people.
* Teachers have lost Respect, full time pay for part or no work, while claiming opening school was too dangerous, then taking 5-hour flights on crowded planes to vacay in PR.
* People started to think about the value of physical social interaction again.
* Loss of respect for Experts
* Televised Sports collapsed, despite the closure of live physical sporting events and people being laid off/reduced hours.
* Guys are getting woke to Female Dating Strategy.
* The majority of Milly most capable woke females are having one or none children.
* CDC, WHO, other captured institutions experiencing a collapse in influence and prestige.
6   RC2006   2021 Jun 1, 2:12pm  

HunterTits says
MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Guys are getting woke to Female Dating Strategy.


Uh. Because you used the word 'woke' I kinda can interpret that statement the opposite of what I an 70% sure you meanrmt to convey...or am I wrong about that?

Did you mean to convey "Guys are waking up to...."?


Maybe he means men are becoming better women like everything else, go woke women go broke lol.
7   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 1, 3:25pm  

HunterTits says
Uh. Because you used the word 'woke' I kinda can interpret that statement the opposite of what I an 70% sure you meanrmt to convey...or am I wrong about that?


Yeah, "Men are getting wise to Alphafucks/Betabucks" is a better way of phrasing it.

Also, the Education Area:
https://learningpodshub.com/
8   mell   2021 Jun 1, 5:30pm  

HunterTits says
Back to Patrick's orig topic:

There was a backlash at my company when they announced that around Sept ppl will have to work at least three days in the office. Nevemind that they don't have the space for all of us.

It has to do with justifying our expensive office on Page Mill Rd. more than anything.


Just get a 100% remote job. Never looked back. Move to a beautiful part of the state and enjoy life, just a hop away from the pool, sports courts , hiking, biking and running trails, and a good bbq on the deck. I never liked having managers in the office scheduling meetings all the time and at the worst times to make sure no actual work gets done. This is great - fuck the office, it's only good for your first 10-20 years of work max so you can shag all the hot chicks before they turn into harridans (and drink all the free party booze), w/ zero fucks given if you need to hop jobs, but once you settle down get a solid remote gig you like and work for it, or a couple of contracts. Managers are really sweating now losing control over their office minions while many managers now typically manage more than one (remote) team. A couple of adult engineers with a team lead can make most of the decisions on their own and be much more productive than being micromanaged at the office with TPS reports.
9   Ceffer   2021 Jun 1, 6:58pm  

Employees got too used to masturbating and watching porno while working at home. They need to taste the lash of the Human Resources wrathful, on-the-rag immense hirsute lesbians again.
10   Patrick   2021 Jun 1, 7:38pm  

Ceffer says
They need to taste the lash of the Human Resources wrathful, on-the-rag immense hirsute lesbians again.





Hey, the trend towards working from home is death for HR, and this is a wonderful thing. How can you be framed by a woman you never even met in person?
11   RC2006   2021 Jun 1, 7:45pm  

Patrick says
Ceffer says
They need to taste the lash of the Human Resources wrathful, on-the-rag immense hirsute lesbians again.





Hey, the trend towards working from home is death for HR, and this is a wonderful thing. How can you be framed by a woman you never even met in person?


Death for American workers. If a job can be done remotely than it can be done in another country. Our government has already proved they don't care and will follow orders of corporations.
12   Patrick   2021 Jun 1, 7:50pm  

HunterTits says
Patrick says
How can you be framed by a woman you never even met in person?


Someone, cough, cough I know was fired while working from home because he refused to bend the knee on the company's Slack.

VP of HR handled it (it caused that much of a ruckus), too.


OK, it's possible, but no woman can claim you physically harassed her at least.
13   Ceffer   2021 Jun 1, 8:01pm  

Patrick says
OK, it's possible, but no woman can claim you physically harassed her at least.


You obviously haven't heard of the torts of Zoom eye raping and ESP remote rape. Also, Toobin-flashing rape.
14   mell   2021 Jun 1, 11:29pm  

RC2006 says
Patrick says
Ceffer says
They need to taste the lash of the Human Resources wrathful, on-the-rag immense hirsute lesbians again.





Hey, the trend towards working from home is death for HR, and this is a wonderful thing. How can you be framed by a woman you never even met in person?


Death for American workers. If a job can be done remotely than it can be done in another country. Our government has already proved they don't care and will follow orders of corporations.


Not necessarily. An outsourced team of American engineers in cheapville, US, beats an outsourced team in buttfuckistan 90% of the time. If the company cares about quality, remote work means remote work in the US or Europe.
15   joshuatrio   2021 Jun 2, 4:58am  

mell says
Managers are really sweating now losing control over their office minions while many managers now typically manage more than one (remote) team.


That's happening in my current workspace. They announced yesterday in our staff meeting that they will be pulling people back in the office over the next few days. This is because one team is underperforming, but 100% of the blame is on the leadership being disengaged.

The PM of my contract called me in a panic and I basically told him his meetings were a waste of my time and I have no plan on sticking around if he acts like a douche and implements his micro management.

I know that over half plan on quitting if they follow through with it. Everyone has been content working from home and having a bunch more flexibility.

Those who are financially secure don't give AF.
16   WookieMan   2021 Jun 2, 5:10am  

joshuatrio says
meetings were a waste of my time

They're a waste of time for sure. Why I could never do corporate work and neither could the wife though she's grown the company and they're getting into some corporate shit now.

If you're talking about work, you're not working has always been my belief. If you don't know what to do then you should be fired. Not that complicated. If you're a manager, send me a task, follow up and manage. I get you do have to meet occasionally, but weekly or daily is pure stupidity.

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