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Russia Defends the West Against Insanity

By Hircus follow Hircus   2021 Jun 8, 3:51pm 205 views   14 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Kinda interesting argument that white northerners (america, eruope, russia) have much in common, and that one day we will face conquest by those who accuse us of being their oppressors. I really like the following part:

There is a new civilization emerging in the Third World that thinks that the white, northern hemisphere has always oppressed it and must therefore fall at its feet now. … If the northern civilization wants to protect itself, it must be united: America, the European Union, and Russia. If they are not together, they will be defeated one by one.


... which they said over a decade ago. How very prescient of them, as that's exactly how things are unfolding.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/russia-defends-the-west-against-insanity/


Foreign ministers of nations both great and small make statements all the time, most of them silly or just forgettable. Some of them are utterly sinister, like Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s promise to promote homosexual “rights.” This has led to the U.S. Embassy to the Holy See, among others, to display the rainbow flag of politicized homosexuality throughout the month of June, “pride” month. Welcome to the United States of advanced postmodernia.

Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has also made many statements over the years unworthy of our attention. Last week, however, he spoke eloquently about the most important issue of our time, anti-white racism in the United States and the lamentable consequences of political correctness “taken to the extreme.” In a nationally broadcast TV interview, Moscow’s top diplomat said Russia had long supported a worldwide trend against racism, but that it was important “not to switch to the other extreme which we saw during the ‘BLM’ events and the aggression against white people, white U.S. citizens.”

Lavrov accused the United States of seeking to spread “a cultural revolution” across the globe. A powerful arm of the project, Hollywood, changed its rules so that everything it produces reflects the diversity of modern society, he said: “I’ve seen Black people play in Shakespeare’s comedies. Yet I don’t know when there will be a white Othello. … This is absurd.”

It is literally impossible for the foreign minister of any Western country—in North America, Western Europe, or Oceania—to make a statement of this kind. Even if he or she were to do so in a fit of suicidal madness or cathartic honesty—both well-nigh unimaginable among the Western ruling elite—a hysterical outcry on every printed page and every flickering screen would soon subject them to cancellation. The criminal would be a permanent non-person par excellence.

Lavrov’s statement reflects the fact that, for the past quarter century, Russia has worked hard to rearticulate its objectives and fine-tune its policies in terms of traditional national interests and traditional social mores. The communist-era dual-track policy of having “normal” relations with the West, on the one hand, while seeking to subvert it, on the other, gave way to Boris Yeltsin’s disastrous attempts in the 1990s to forge a “partnership” with the West.

As I pointed out over a decade ago, the early 1990s also witnessed the blossoming of America’s strident attempt to assert its “benevolent global hegemony.” This ambition created an ironic role-reversal. It precluded any suggestion that Russia has legitimate interests, either externally or internally. The justification for the project was just as ideological, and the implications just as revolutionary as anything concocted by Grigory Zinoviev or Leon Trotsky in their heyday:

That a ‘truly democratic’ Russia must be subservient to the ‘propositionalist’ matrix is still axiomatic on both sides of the Atlantic. ‘Democracy’ thus defined has to do with one’s status in the ideological pecking order, rather than the expressed will of the electorate: in line with the Leninist dictum that the moral value of any action is determined by its contribution to the march of history. To wit, Putin’s or Medvedev’s approval ratings are cited as mere ‘proof’ of their populist demagoguery.


The reshaping of Russia’s soul is the final stop. In this respect any gap between the Sorosite “left” and neocon “right,” between Washington and Brussels, is a matter of degree rather than kind. Here is the one crusade Jihadists gleefully support.

In this context, Russia’s then-ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, charted a grand strategy of sanity for all of us over a decade ago, in an interview with the Russia Today television channel:

There is a new civilization emerging in the Third World that thinks that the white, northern hemisphere has always oppressed it and must therefore fall at its feet now. … If the northern civilization wants to protect itself, it must be united: America, the European Union, and Russia. If they are not together, they will be defeated one by one.


Rogozin’s ideas were based on an appreciation of the commonalities between Europeans and their overseas descendants—a diagnosis as precise as it is abhorrent to Western elites. It shows that, in all key indicators rooted in respect for conservative principles, Russia is freer than the West. Again, no American or EU diplomat could dare to make such a statement, even if he shared the sentiment, and hope to remain in his post after making it.

Western multiculturalists oppose any notion of “our” physical or cultural space that does not belong to everyone. They deny we should have a special affinity for any particular country, nation, or culture, while demanding the imposition of our preferences upon the whole world. They celebrate any random melange of mutually disconnected multitudes as somehow uniquely “diverse” and therefore inherently virtuous.

Ideologues will deny it, but in the decades to come Europe, Russia, and America will be in similar mortal peril. In the end there will be no grand synthesis, no cross-fertilization, and certainly no peaceful coexistence, between the North and the Third World. There will be “kto kogo” (who will overtake whom?).

The short-term prospects for fostering a sense of unity among Europeans—Eastern, Western, and American—are grim. They will remain so as long as the regimes of all major Western states continue to be controlled by an elite class hostile to its own roots and cultural heritage, and therefore instinctively Russophobic to boot.

Russia’s position on the existential issue of our era fits what I have often cried for in these pages: a paradigm shift in the West that would pave the way for a genuine Northern Alliance of Russia, Western Europe, and North America, as all three face similar existential threats in the decades ahead. We cannot know if this alliance will materialize, but we do know that, if it doesn’t, our civilization will be in peril.
1   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Jun 8, 4:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

In a world where the Euro north is overcome and weakened by the southern cultures, China will pounce and rule the world. The Chinese will have no interest in diversity when they have hegemony.
2   Rb6d   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 8, 4:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Russian leadership and Rogozin types are not better, and may be even worse, than our dear leaders. Rogozin himself has stolen enormous amounts of money from Russian space program which has now been driven into ground by Musk. Children of Russian elites live in the decadent West; they keep their money in the West, not in rubles and safety of supposedly wonderful Russia. Moscow has the most Islamic immigrants in Europe. Russians are running away from Russia and settling abroad. Etc etc etc

Look at what they do, and not what they say.
3   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Jun 8, 4:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rb6d says
Children of Russian elites live in the decadent West; they keep their money in the West, not in rubles and safety of supposedly wonderful Russia.


Like whom? Name a few. Where do they live? What are their families?

This is the difference between propaganda and reality. It's easy to make blanket statements and to believe them, isn't it?
4   Rb6d   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 8, 5:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
This is the difference between propaganda and reality. It's easy to make blanket statements and to believe them, isn't it?


Anastasia Zheleznyak - daughter of former Duma deputy speaker Sergei Zheleznyak, lives in Britain

Elizaveta Krivonogikh - supposedly an out-of-wedlock daughter of Putin

Ex-wife of Peskov with their kids live in Paris. Peskov is some type of Kremlin press secretary.

These are ones that I remember from reading Russian gossip pages. If you wish, I can go through them and find a few more examples. I recall also that one of leaders of Russian State TV is a permanent resident of Italy and lives there at least part time.

I do know Russian pretty well, so I am not informed only by English language media; and I know plenty Russians both here and back in E. Europe.
5   Hircus   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 8, 5:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

HeadSet says
In a world where the Euro north is overcome and weakened by the southern cultures, China will pounce and rule the world. The Chinese will have no interest in diversity when they have hegemony.


Yes. They've already shown the world what they think of diversity - they will stick you in a camp, and then one day when they take you to the doctor for a "checkup", the vitamin shot they give you in the shoulder knocks you out, and you wake up sterilized.

And I struggle to see a scenario where the CCP loses control anytime soon. Their citizens may not love their govt, but as long as the standard of living and wealth keeps rising, and the govt doesn't do anything too heinous to them, they wont revolt.
6   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Jun 8, 6:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hircus says
Their citizens may not love their govt, but as long as the standard of living and wealth keeps rising, and the govt doesn't do anything too heinous to them, they wont revolt.

That hideous bar must be set pretty high. No successful revolt after the Cultural Revolution killed millions, and no successful revolt after the Tiananmen Square death of 10,000 or more. When the CCP controls all schooling, jobs, press, travel, and any other info, it is much easier to keep the citizens in check.
7   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 8, 6:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rb6d says
richwicks says
This is the difference between propaganda and reality. It's easy to make blanket statements and to believe them, isn't it?


Anastasia Zheleznyak - daughter of former Duma deputy speaker Sergei Zheleznyak, lives in Britain

Elizaveta Krivonogikh - supposedly an out-of-wedlock daughter of Putin

Ex-wife of Peskov with their kids live in Paris. Peskov is some type of Kremlin press secretary.

These are ones that I remember from reading Russian gossip pages. If you wish, I can go through them and find a few more examples. I recall also that one of leaders of Russian State TV is a permanent resident of Italy and lives there at least part time.

I do know Russian pretty well, so I am not informed only by English language media; and I know plenty Russians both here and back in E. Europe.

Well if it's all talk then gays, news, and muslims plus any other "minority" we can think of these days have nothing to fear about in Russia, right? Glad we can finally put the "Russia is evil" narrative to rest.
8   Rb6d   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 8, 6:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

mell says
Well if it's all talk then gays, news, and muslims plus any other "minority" we can think of these days have nothing to fear about in Russia, right? Glad we can finally put the "Russia is evil" narrative to re


Russia (or, more precisely, its ruling class) IS evil; however I don't see why we should be afraid of them. They are stuck in 1990's with respect to technology.

For aficionados of conspiracy theories, Russians have one of their own, which rivals WTC 2001 destruction conspiracy theories around here. It is rumored that Russian FSB blew up apartment buildings in 1999 to start Chechen war, which brought Putin to power. It is said that over 400 people were killed, with thousands injured.

@mell, please guess which city this is:

9   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 8, 7:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I know several Russians through work - all voted for Biden because "we need better US-Russia relations and want to bring our relatives to US and Trump was tightening immigration".
10   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 8, 7:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rb6d says
mell says
Well if it's all talk then gays, news, and muslims plus any other "minority" we can think of these days have nothing to fear about in Russia, right? Glad we can finally put the "Russia is evil" narrative to re


Russia (or, more precisely, its ruling class) IS evil; however I don't see why we should be afraid of them. They are stuck in 1990's with respect to technology.

For aficionados of conspiracy theories, Russians have one of their own, which rivals WTC 2001 destruction conspiracy theories around here. It is rumored that Russian FSB blew up apartment buildings in 1999 to start Chechen war, which brought Putin to power. It is said that over 400 people were killed, with thousands injured.

@mell, please guess which city this is:



I understand but my point was if they're Islam friendly and gay friendly and tough talk but no substance then they are much like the West currently, except for the West also talks gay and shits rainbows, so then people should stop painting Russia as the enemy of human rights. You can't have it both ways, for some reason Russia is always wrong, they are presumably gayphobic and Islamophobic but then they have a large Islamic population which apparently enjoys their lives in Russia, they are also poor and apparently have rusty tech but somehow they're also the most dangerous election manipulators and propagandists of modern times. What's likely really going on is that they have problems like everyone else, corruption, immigration, poverty, but mostly just want to be left alone. I don't see them even remotely as dangerous as china, they just sealed a gas pact with Germany, yeah we may not like it, but in the end I'm not the least interested in micromanaging Russia. We should rather prosecute and hang those responsible for the china virus and the lockdowns, and as of today Russsia had zilch to do with it.
11   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 8, 7:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hircus says
Their citizens may not love their govt, but as long as the standard of living and wealth keeps rising, and the govt doesn't do anything too heinous to them, they wont revolt.


And that standard of living is rising at the expense of American workers whose standard of living is falling.
12   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 8, 7:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
I know several Russians through work - all voted for Biden because "we need better US-Russia relations and want to bring our relatives to US and Trump was tightening immigration".


I believe that. The Russians I know in Russia and even some Russians living in the Ukraine are mostly pro Putin and nationalistic and the Russians who live in the US are all very anti Putin and usually leftoids, which makes sense for them given the reasons above.
13   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 8, 7:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

mell says
We should rather prosecute and hang those responsible for the china virus and the lockdowns, and as of today Russsia had zilch to do with it.



I agree 100%. The first order of business must be to prosecute and hang those responsible for the virus and the completely unjustified lockdowns.

Russia was always just a distraction from the real issues. We don't import anything much from Russia, nor export much to them. They don't affect us nearly as much as China does.

I think Russia's GDP is only about 10% of China's.
14   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 8, 7:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

mell says
FuckCCP89 says
I know several Russians through work - all voted for Biden because "we need better US-Russia relations and want to bring our relatives to US and Trump was tightening immigration".


I believe that. The Russians I know in Russia and even some Russians living in the Ukraine are mostly pro Putin and nationalistic and the Russians who live in the US are all very anti Putin and usually leftoids, which makes sense for them given the reasons above.


LOL, all of them are pro-Putin AF. They never bought the "Trump is Putin's bitch" narrative, btw. But yeah, they are leftoids who either already milking the system by bringing here their parents and subscribing them to all kinds of free services, or plan on doing so. Trump was threatening to throw a monkey wrench into these schemes, so they hate him with passion.

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