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porkchopexpress says

Per your advice, I bought some high quality fish oil pills and take one with each of my Quercetin vitamin packs. Fish oil should be good, right?

Also, do you think taking Quercetin, Zinc, etc. would stop other viruses from taking hold such as HSV-1/2 or HIV? It would be awesome to know I'm protected from contracting those as well if I'm being a slut.

Yes, Fish Oil is good but can't say for all viruses. You'll need to do your own research.

Rin says

porkchopexpress says

Per your advice, I bought some high quality fish oil pills and take one with each of my Quercetin vitamin packs. Fish oil should be good, right?

Also, do you think taking Quercetin, Zinc, etc. would stop other viruses from taking hold such as HSV-1/2 or HIV? It would be awesome to know I'm protected from contracting those as well if I'm being a slut.

Yes, Fish Oil is good but can't say for all viruses. You'll need to do your own research.

I'm curious if this regimen will help against Influenza.

Fallopia says

Quercetin will do nothing for you. It's a well-known "frequent hitter" encountered during in-vitro biological screening, but has no effect in-vivo. Anyone who knows anything about pharmacology knows this.

That's not what I've read. Granted, you need to take Quercetin with Zinc because Q allows Z to get into cells to destroy the virus.

Rin says

By now, it should be clear to anyone reading Rin's postings, that he's the one man wrecking crew against the Covid crisis, as well as against the Femi-Nazis holding American men by the balls and stealing their monies.

How do you plan on preserving your awesome genetics?

Here's the Pub Med site of the National Library of Medicine

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

Type in your supplement and a particular illness

So Tagamet or Cimetidine


So search on Cimetidine aspirin damage

And you get as first article

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2979681/

Cimetidine decreases aspirin-induced gastric mucosal damage in humans
D L Hogan 1 , F J Thomas, J I Isenberg

Affiliations

PMID: 2979681 DOI: 10.1111/j.1365-2036.1987.tb00638.x

Abstract

Aspirin induces gastric mucosal damage in animals and humans. The purpose of this study was to examine whether cimetidine protects the human gastric mucosa from acute aspirin-induced damage. Eight healthy subjects were studied on 4 separate days. Cimetidine, 400 mg, or placebo was given orally 1 hour before initial endoscopy. The stomach was isolated and atropine given to suppress basal acid secretion. Each study consisted of four 15 min periods during which an acidic test solution was instilled into the stomach. During the second period only, either aspirin (1300 mg, 36 mmol) or control for aspirin (36 mmol HCl) was added to the test solution. Ion fluxes and gastric mucosal potential difference were measured, and endoscopy performed following each test. After placebo, aspirin significantly altered hydrogen ion flux and potential difference versus basal and control. Cimetidine decreased the damaging effect of aspirin. Endoscopic scores increased after aspirin plus placebo, whereas they remained unchanged after aspirin plus cimetidine. Therefore, cimetidine decreased aspirin-induced gastric mucosal damage in humans. As gastric acidity was identical during all studies, the effect of cimetidine was independent of gastric acid secretion.

porkchopexpress says

That's not what I've read. Granted, you need to take Quercetin with Zinc because Q allows Z to get into cells to destroy the virus

Even before the Zinc uptake, you need Q in the blood and that's a bit tricky as it's poorly absorbed in the GI tract so ppl have been looking at ways of making it more bioavailable, like dissolving it in oil along with using the pineapple enzyme Bromelain.

Someone even cooked it at a low temp w/ a slice of onion to bind it to a sugar complex. This was from a research paper in Japan.

Or suspending it in a lyposome, etc. The suppement makers are getting smarter over time than in just straight Quercetin Dihydrate.

I've been taking my Q with Bromelain, but now I just added fish oil pills too. Can't hurt me so I'll continue to do it.

Fallopia says

Quercetin is nonsense.

Nonsense? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33034398/
https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/suppliers/news-suppliers/quercetin-studied-in-covid-19-patients/

porkchopexpress says

Fallopia says

Quercetin is nonsense.

Nonsense? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33034398/
https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/suppliers/news-suppliers/quercetin-studied-in-covid-19-patients/

Using your own link there,

There's one on the Quercetin Phytosome, which is a type of micelle delivery mechanism

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33016666/

Excerpt: "After hydrolysis of the conjugated form (mainly glucuronide) of quercetin found in human plasma, the pharmacokinetics results have demonstrated an increased bioavailability rate by about 20-fold for total quercetin. It has been also observed that the presence of specific glucuronidase could yield free systemic quercetin in human body."

There is progress out there.

I've been taking vitamin D and garlic supplements, I seem to not catch anything lately. Man this pandemic got a lot of people gaining weight, a lot of it. People need to go outside get vitamin D and start walking it off. Women look like giant loafs of bread now around here.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

garlic supplements

Unfortunately, there's only one garlic supplement which has the true Allicin and that's Allisure Allicin. The others are mash ups with a hope of a certain percentage of Allicin being converted from the garlic pulp.

Rin says

By now, it should be clear to anyone reading Rin's postings, that he's the one man wrecking crew against the Covid crisis,

@Rin. If one has access to hydroxychloroquine and/or ivermectin would you still recommend quercetin? Remove the limitation of non-prescription and what regimen would you use yourself if you were pressured to get one of the covid jabs? IYO what is the single best protocol to deal with the side effects of the J&J jab?

Where do you guys get ivermectin? It requires prescription right?

For humans, it requires a prescription.

For animals, it's basically free in every feed store. We used to give it to our chickens. There's also a horse version.

Guy on Bad Tube showed how to use horse ivermectin, easy peasy. I have ordered some to try next time a cold or flu comes along.

stfu says

If one has access to hydroxychloroquine and/or ivermectin would you still recommend quercetin?

Here's the thing with Rx (even if it's bought from some overseas Rx w/o FDA regulators on it), dosage matters and thus, the idea that "if one 200 mg pill works than ... 10 of them is even better" and that's where one makes the evening news getting one's stomach pumped at the ER. And then, we get all these idiots blaming Trump for that overdose.

In contrast, your GI tract will tell you if 10,000 mg of Que is too much, even if you get the more bioavailable Phytosome formulation. In other words, no risk of overdosing.

I say, as preventative supplement, minimize the Rx but keep all the rest as those are all natural and the body has an easier time with them.

For instance, I do Aspirin once in three days and White Willow Bark the other two. I still get the superior blood thinning effects of Aspirin but w/o too much pressure on my system in case of some unforseen internal bleeding.

That's my plan. Do Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D/C/B/K, etc daily, and then take Ivermectin for the moment I get symptoms. I got mine at AllDayChemist

porkchopexpress says

That's my plan. Do Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D/C/B/K, etc daily, and then take Ivermectin for the moment I get symptoms. I got mine at AllDayChemist

Here's the thing, among Rin's dozen guinea pigs, no one has gotten anything, since spring of 2020, and 3 of them have even had their normal spring/summer allergies disappear.

One has even reversed his adult onset diabetes.

What that's hinting at, is that allopathic medicine, aside from let's say trauma medicine & other emergency measures, know zip about prevention and how to keep ppl healthy.

Patrick says

For humans, it requires a prescription.

For animals, it's basically free in every feed store. We used to give it to our chickens. There's also a horse version.

Which means that you really don't need a prescription, just like for antibiotics.

Rin says

porkchopexpress says

That's my plan. Do Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D/C/B/K, etc daily, and then take Ivermectin for the moment I get symptoms. I got mine at AllDayChemist

Here's the thing, among Rin's dozen guinea pigs, no one has gotten anything, since spring of 2020, and 3 of them have even had their normal spring/summer allergies disappear.

One has even reversed his adult onset diabetes.

What that's hinting at, is that allopathic medicine, aside from let's say trauma medicine & other emergency measures, know zip about prevention and how to keep ppl healthy.

nice!

I started taking Vitamins too, just as a precautionary measure (A, C, and D). So far so good. But I already had covid at some point.

A study on Quercetin Phytosome

https://patrick.net/post/1340407/2021-08-01-i-guess-better-late-than-never-but-here

Rin says

A study on Quercetin Phytosome

https://patrick.net/post/1340407/2021-08-01-i-guess-better-late-than-never-but-here

To repeat from a related thread on PatNet:

https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/quercetin-phytosome

Rin for the win!

stereotomy says

Rin for the win!

To paraphrase Herman Melville ... "call me World Emperor"