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Vax Death Spike


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by Onvacation   $0.10 total tips   💰tip   follow   2021 Jul 13, 11:13am  

I downloaded a csv file from the CDC

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Week-Ending-D/r8kw-7aab

I was curious about trends so I then downloaded the last six years of death data from the cdc and concatenated it into one file. I graphed it:


It was obvious that there was quite a spike from the corona virus (Blue Gray line) when I eliminated total deaths from the chart.


At this point I was curious if some of the other causes of death had gone down so I eliminated heart disease, cancer, and covid-19.

This is when I noticed the annual winter spike from flu and pneumonia was gone in 2020-2021. I also noticed the spike in "not elsewhere classified". I zoomed in and got this:


Logic using people can see there is a problem here.

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232   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 7:22am  

The correlation of increased "rare" deaths with the vaxx is enormous and unmistakable.
233   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 7:58am  

sjmoca says
Seems mistaken to me. There's enough information available to see this data is just showing the expected lag effect. Not saying nobody died of vaxx, but pointing to data lag as proof of a vaxx spike is erroneous.


How can you just ignore the immense increase in "rare" deaths after the vaxx rollout?
234   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 8:00am  

What are they, other than vaxx-induced deaths?

Can you summarize clearly?
235   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 8:36am  

sjmoca says
This "spike", or hook upwards in the most recent months of data of deaths with unknown causes, is always there, before the vaxx and before covid, due to data lag.




Can you generate such a graph for a year before 2020?
236   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 8:45am  

I think it needs to be earlier than 2020 to prove your point.
237   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 9:34am  

To be clearly earlier than the vaxx's existence.

Given the unreasonably short timeframe in which the vaxx was supposedly created, and the tremendous number of lies told by Fauci and the CDC, I suspect the vaxx may have been tested on the public in early 2020.
238   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 11:44am  

sjmoca says

I can try.

@sjmoca
Do you believe the vax is "safe and effective"?
239   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 11:47am  

And why do you suppose the CDC is no longer updating its "death by cause and age" dataset?
240   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 1:25pm  

sjmoca says
Happy to discuss why or why not.

Why, since multiple deaths and injuries were caused by the vax, do you think it is safe?
Why, since multiple jabs are required, do you think it is effective?
241   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 1:27pm  

Many here at patrick.net, including me, believe the vax is genocide and or an attempt to have CCP type social control.
242   GNL   2021 Nov 22, 2:41pm  

Onvacation says
Many here at patrick.net, including me, believe the vax is genocide and or an attempt to have CCP type social control.

These are the only 4 reasons I can come up with.
1) a conditioning program
2) depopulation
3) simply to determine who are compliant and who are trouble makers
4) part of the build back better plan for total control of the population
243   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 6:24pm  

sjmoca says
On a relative basis, much more deaths have happened in the unvaccinated. Based on UK data, 32x more likely to die of Covid. 2.8x more likely to have died of anything, all-in.



Link please. I'd like to see the raw data.

What you have shown here is that the unvaxxed mortality rate is a little over 2000 and a little over 3000 for all the vaxxed people.

The CDC data also seems cooked. I have seen vax rates of 150% in some of their datasets.

Your explanation of reporting lag makes sense as the last couple of weeks in the latest dataset are always low. I'll have to look closer and see where the deaths have been moved to.
244   mell   2021 Nov 22, 8:27pm  

This data is complete bullshit. Most of the kids aren't vaccinated anywhere and none of them die. If you added all the asymptomatic infected unvaxxed kids this statement would turn over on its head. They are basically taking severe cases amongst adults (aka hospitalizations) and then compare. Many unjabbed adults have comorbidities and can't take the jab. All you need to do is look at highly vaccinated states and countries and rising case, hospitalizations and deaths to see the jabs are not only dangerous, they don't work. Never has been there such a dangerous and ineffective vaccine in history, maybe the flu virus in some years when they don't get the cocktail right, could match in ineffectiveness.
245   mell   2021 Nov 22, 8:30pm  

The seroprevalence is estimated to be about around 40% now. They don't take any of those into account. The jab may lessen severity of symptoms for 4-6 months but at the expense of death and crippling for some, plus ADE plus cumulative side effects for all of those who need to keep boosting every 4-6 months.
246   Shaman   2021 Nov 22, 8:39pm  

sjmoca says
mell says
Never has been there such a dangerous and ineffective vaccine in history, maybe the flu virus in some years when they don't get the cocktail right, could match in ineffectiveness.


This idea doesn't seem remotely accurate. The vast vast majority of rising cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, are in the unvaccinated.



Thanks for the FAKE NEWS but your source is not at all credible. And the chart data is not given. My information shows that current Covid patients are mostly vaxxed in the USA, and almost all vaxxed in many other countries.
Also the death rate is rising, among vaxxed Covid patients. It is now almost double the rate of death for 2020.

What kind of vaccine increases your risk of dying by two fold?
247   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 22, 8:42pm  

sjmoca says


This idea doesn't seem remotely accurate. The vast vast majority of rising cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, are in the unvaccinated.


Is that current, or cumulative? If cumulative, that would include the time before the vax, no?

From KFF site:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) currently monitors hospitalizations and deaths, from any cause, among fully vaccinated individuals with COVID-19, but not breakthrough infections, which it stopped monitoring as of May 1. CDC presents this data in aggregate at the national level but not by state, and there is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them.


What's the reason for the high rate of cases in Vermont, one of the most vaxxed states in the Union, or Israel, which is 80%+ vaxxed?
248   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 22, 8:43pm  

Shaman says
What kind of vaccine increases your risk of dying by two fold?


Great observation. We now have a COVID death rate higher after almost a year of a vaccine, than a year before ANY vaccine was available. And it's spreading fastest in areas that are the most vaccinated.
249   mell   2021 Nov 22, 9:22pm  

Onvacation says
sjmoca says
Honestly there seems to be no smoke here when you take that into account.

Honestly?

What do you think about the 600% increase in death rate that started in July, or August, or October or whenever the number spiked?

You do see the spike? Don'tcha?


Thats the problem, it does lessen symptoms for 4-6 months without ADE, but it kills so many on the way along. And ADE is lurking. Net net it kills more than it saves, the only reliable number is the number of vaccines to give to save one live and it's horribly high and kills and maims more on the way. The only people who should consider taking it are those at high risk of dying who haven't had covid yet
250   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 9:25pm  

sjmoca says

This idea doesn't seem remotely accurate. The vast vast majority of rising cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, are in the unvaccinated.

Of course only the unvaccinated are tested.


A lot of brainwashed people think the Wuhan is really dangerous and the vax is safe and effective

sjmoca says
Texas released their report:


Even though Texas was 50% vaxxed in June they still had a spike in deaths.




251   Onvacation   2021 Nov 22, 9:45pm  

sjmoca says
I think it's the "delta variant"

That's what I've been hearing.
252   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 11:48pm  

CaptainHorsePaste says
We now have a COVID death rate higher after almost a year of a vaccine, than a year before ANY vaccine was available. And it's spreading fastest in areas that are the most vaccinated.


This is clearly true. Look at Singapore, Israel, Austria, Netherlands.

Then look at Africa, which has almost no vaxxing and almost no Wuhan Virus.
253   Patrick   2021 Nov 22, 11:50pm  

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/uk-data-shows-the-vaccines-are-not


UK data shows the vaccines are NOT saving any lives at all. Zero. Zip. Nada.
Mathew Crawford just did an analysis showing that the data from the UK shows that the vaccines aren't saving any lives at all. Zero. Zip. Nada. So we're killing over 150K people to save no lives. Wow.




256   Shaman   2021 Nov 23, 8:50am  

sjmoca says
That is very interesting. From the same data, the death rate is still higher among the unvaxed.


True. The vax is usually somewhat protective vs Covid for mitigating death risk. Looks like it ranges from 7 times less risk to 2 times less risk. But consider Taiwan’s data: they had low Covid from the beginning, but experienced almost a thousand deaths from the vax itself! At one point a couple weeks ago, Taiwan actually had more deaths from the vax than from Covid!
Australia is the same although their data is very corrupt. What they can’t hide though, is that since this vax campaign has been in effect, their hospitals have been packed full of people in distress and/or dying. But there’s no Covid.

Finally, a study that was undergoing BCA (blood testing) of a group of patients for an issue unrelated to Covid, reported their findings last week.
“ The risk of developing acute coronary syndrome (ACS) significantly increased in patients after receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, according to a report presented at the American Heart Association (AHA) Scientific Sessions 2021, held from November 13 to 15, 2021.

The study included 566 men and women (1:1) aged 28-97 years, who were patients in a preventive cardiology practice. All patients received a new PULS Cardiac Test 2-10 weeks after their second COVID-19 vaccine. This test result was compared with a PULS score from 3-5 months prevaccination. The PULS Cardiac Test measures multiple protein biomarkers, including hepatocyte growth factor [HGF], soluble Fas, and IL-16, and uses the results to calculate a 5-year risk score for new ACS. The PULS score increases with above-normal elevation. All participants received this test every 3-6 months for 8 years.

From prevaccination to postvaccination, the levels of IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 to 82=/-75 above the norm. Soluble Fas showed an increase from 22±15 to 46=/-24 above the norm. HGF rose from 42±12 to 86±31 above the norm. As a result, the 5-year ACS PULS risk score increased from 11% to 25%. By the time the report was published, changes had persisted for 2.5 months or more after the second vaccine dose.“

So it looks like the vax does permanent heart damage as a “side effect.” The reports of myocarditis are just from the people who were more critically affected by the cardiac damage. If you took the vax, you most likely have heart damage.
https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.com/home/topics/acs/acute-coronary-syndrome-acs-biomarkers-mrna-covid19-vaccine/
257   Shaman   2021 Nov 23, 3:31pm  

sjmoca says
More likely


Know what’s “more likely?” That a vax with a solidly proven history of causing myocarditis and pericarditis as well as sudden fatal heart attacks and clots so severe they cause strokes and necessitate amputation of limbs… it’s MORE LIKELY that such a vax causes fucking heart damage!
But you’re just assuming that the test, a test which has been in use for decades without question… is the real problem.
In response to that, I’m rolling my eyes savagely.
258   mell   2021 Nov 23, 4:45pm  

sjmoca says
, influenza, covid-19, and bacterial infections. What the vax hesitant keep ignoring is that pediatric experts are saying covid-19 causes more fucking myocarditis than the vax!


Bold faced lie by the "experts"! There are close to zero serious covid 19 cases among kids, the factor of severe damage (incl. myocarditis) from the jab is higher by 100x - 10000 x. They are being paid off by big pharma and literally killing and maiming kids. There are a few MDs with integrity left though who will tell you it's asinine and criminal to jab kids
259   GNL   2021 Nov 23, 4:49pm  

You really want to know what the whole problem is with this fiasco? 2 things....1) force of government and 2) censoring. If everyone could simply be given advice by their Drs. and the government/social media (but I repeat myself) didn't resort to censoring, people would "feel" better about their choice in this matter.

"Freedom is always the answer"

--Me
260   mell   2021 Nov 23, 4:50pm  

Math doesn't lie, the chances of a kid having a severe covid case is around 2 in a million, dying around 1 in a million. The incidence of SAE incl. myocarditis from the jab is anywhere from 1 in 10 for the early dosages to 1 in 10000.
261   mell   2021 Nov 23, 4:53pm  

sjmoca says
Like Elias, Han says most vaccine-associated myocarditis cases are mild, without “significant disturbance to the heart function or inability to maintain blood pressure.”


Bullshit bold faced liar! Pls stop using propaganda. Myocarditis is NEVER mild. NEVER. People should stay far, far away from any MD shill talking about 'mild myocarditis', it's an oxymoron
262   mell   2021 Nov 23, 4:56pm  

Next thing you know MDs telling you kids have heart attacks and strokes commonly. Shills
263   Patrick   2021 Nov 23, 5:08pm  

sjmoca says
As "novaxx" people have had the virus, they now have antibodies, and are no longer vulnerable like "novaxx" implies.


Lol, what? Of course after being sick people have very good immunity, but that has nothing at all to do with that graph.

The graph compares cases among people who had the vaxx vs those who have not.

It says nothing at all about which of them had antibodies when they became a case, whether vaxxed or not.

It sure looks like the vaxx has negative efficacy in terms of cases.
264   mell   2021 Nov 23, 5:20pm  

sjmoca says
mell says
Math doesn't lie, the chances of a kid having a severe covid case is around 2 in a million, dying around 1 in a million. The incidence of SAE incl. myocarditis from the jab is anywhere from 1 in 10 for the early dosages to 1 in 10000.


The risc of MIS-C after Covid-19 is around 1 in 3200 children.


No it's not. Around 40% or close to 30MM children have seroprevalence and rising.
265   Patrick   2021 Nov 23, 5:21pm  

OK, that's in the range mell mentioned.

But children will die from the vaxx who literally have a higher risk of being hit by lightning than dying from Wuhan Virus. This is outright murder of children for profit. Can you think of a more evil crime?

Myocarditis is indeed serious:

While 60% to 70% of patients improve clinically and hemodynamically, the remaining patients will develop chronic heart failure or dilated cardiomyopathy within months or years


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370379/
266   Patrick   2021 Nov 23, 5:25pm  

Posting info from the CDC is like posting articles from the National Enquirer.

Not a reputable source.
267   mell   2021 Nov 23, 5:26pm  

Patrick says
OK, that's in the range mell mentioned.

But children will die from the vaxx who literally have a higher risk of being hit by lightning than dying from Wuhan Virus. This is outright murder of children for profit. Can you think of a more evil crime?

Myocarditis is indeed serious:

While 60% to 70% of patients improve clinically and hemodynamically, the remaining patients will develop chronic heart failure or dilated cardiomyopathy within months or years


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370379/


It's 1 in 5400 if you believe the 5500 cases and you can be sure there is no significant underreporting, Pediatrics will always send kids for tests even with mild symptoms. That is still far less than the 1 in 10 SAEs from pfisters own study.
268   mell   2021 Nov 23, 5:48pm  

Patrick says
It sure looks like the vaxx has negative efficacy in terms of cases.


Don't forget that stat is conveniently calculated for all cases, it doesnt say anything about the ability of the jab to prevent mis-c which is probably close to zero, then add in SAEs.
269   Onvacation   2021 Nov 23, 6:48pm  

sjmoca says
Myocarditis is caused by infections like colds, influenza, covid-19, and bacterial infections. What the vax hesitant keep ignoring is that pediatric experts are saying covid-19 causes more fucking myocarditis than the vax!

Why do you want to kill kids? They have no risk of dying from the Wuhan.

Anybody pushing this jab on people that don't need it are brainwashed, ignorant, or evil.
270   Patrick   2021 Nov 23, 10:41pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/if-you-like-heart-problems-youll

If you like heart problems, you'll love the Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines
So says a report on almost 600 patients presented last week at the American Heart Association's annual conference



271   Onvacation   2021 Nov 24, 8:25am  

sjmoca says

Or maybe it just means you are having an immune response to the vax...

Why are you pushing the jab?

Do you think the jab works? If it does work why do we need a booster? Why would we need a booster for the delta variant if the original jabs don't work against the delta variant. If the boosters do work for the delta variant why didn't the original jabs work against the delta variant since they are the same experimental biologic agent?

I am not expecting cogent answers to these simple questions but can @sjmoca attempt to answer?

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