The spike protein from the jab was supposed to last only two weeks...
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NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 28, 12:05am
NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 28, 12:05am
Pfizer actually did some preliminary measurements on spike protein movement and concentration, at least through the 72 hours after injection. That's one of the main sources used to show that the spike protein is not contained to the injection site like it was supposed to be. It was part of a standard set of testing and disclosure every company putting out a vaccine has to do.
I don't think anyone would be surprised that an experimental DNA editing injection becomes a permanent part of your genome. I'd be more surprised if that weren't true.
I don't think anyone would be surprised that an experimental DNA editing injection becomes a permanent part of your genome. I'd be more surprised if that weren't true.
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Misc
2021 Jul 28, 1:44am
If the spike protein from the jab lasts that long, then the spike from the virus should last that long, as well.
Sounds like people dissing the jab, but forgetting the same would apply to the virus.
Since the virus spreads like the flu, most people will come down with it at some point.
People are worrying far too much about both the virus and the jab in my opinion.
Sounds like people dissing the jab, but forgetting the same would apply to the virus.
Since the virus spreads like the flu, most people will come down with it at some point.
People are worrying far too much about both the virus and the jab in my opinion.
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stereotomy
2021 Jul 28, 7:26am
stereotomy
2021 Jul 28, 7:26am
Misc says
The problem with the mRNA jabs is that the the cells in one's body keep producing the spike protein for several months afterward. This would not happen if one were infected with covid in the wild - the immune system would recognize the pathogen and kill it, leaving no spike proteins after the infection had run it's 2 week course. The key point, to reiterate, is that the body's own cells keep producing the spike protein for several months after the jab, which does not occur for covid infections.
If the spike protein from the jab lasts that long, then the spike from the virus should last that long, as well.
The problem with the mRNA jabs is that the the cells in one's body keep producing the spike protein for several months afterward. This would not happen if one were infected with covid in the wild - the immune system would recognize the pathogen and kill it, leaving no spike proteins after the infection had run it's 2 week course. The key point, to reiterate, is that the body's own cells keep producing the spike protein for several months after the jab, which does not occur for covid infections.
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Karloff
2021 Jul 28, 10:20am
Karloff
2021 Jul 28, 10:20am
The other aspect is that the vaccine introduces the protein systemically, whereas the virus itself starts off contained to the respiratory system. If the virus overcomes the immune system, it can also become systemic and then you wind up seeing the same issues that are being seen with the vaccines. Cardiovascular damage (heart attacks, strokes), clots, organ damage, neurological conditions.
For at-risk people, it's sort of a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. It really seems to be a roll of the dice.
For at-risk people, it's sort of a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. It really seems to be a roll of the dice.
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Zak
2021 Jul 28, 10:58am
stereotomy says
This statement makes sense IF the body keeps producing the spike protein for several months. However, mRNA has been stated to break down and no longer produce any proteins after a short period of time.
A variety of sources:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mrna+breakdown+time&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS702US702&oq=mRna+breakdown&aqs=chrome.2.0l4j0i22i30l2j0i390.8744j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
For example:
https://elifesciences.org/articles/32536
This says mRna can break down in as few as 4.8 minutes. It equally says there is variation in the time.
This gives a time distribution for RNA breakdown in human and other species:
http://book.bionumbers.org/how-fast-do-rnas-and-proteins-degrade/
It looks like an outside window of about 30 hrs.
So what is your source showing that this mRNA is vastly different?
The key point, to reiterate, is that the body's own cells keep producing the spike protein for several months after the jab, which does not occur for covid infections.
This statement makes sense IF the body keeps producing the spike protein for several months. However, mRNA has been stated to break down and no longer produce any proteins after a short period of time.
A variety of sources:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mrna+breakdown+time&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS702US702&oq=mRna+breakdown&aqs=chrome.2.0l4j0i22i30l2j0i390.8744j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
For example:
https://elifesciences.org/articles/32536
This says mRna can break down in as few as 4.8 minutes. It equally says there is variation in the time.
This gives a time distribution for RNA breakdown in human and other species:
http://book.bionumbers.org/how-fast-do-rnas-and-proteins-degrade/
It looks like an outside window of about 30 hrs.
So what is your source showing that this mRNA is vastly different?
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NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 28, 1:21pm
NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 28, 1:21pm
Zak says
Pfizer...(see reply below)
So what is your source showing that this mRNA is vastly different?
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Karloff
2021 Jul 28, 7:39pm
Karloff
2021 Jul 28, 7:39pm
There is some evidence that the mRNA can become integrated into the host DNA in a form of retroviral infection, effectively making its change permanent.
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NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 29, 12:20am
NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 29, 12:20am
Bd6r says
This looks like the one I remember, but it is not from Pfizer:
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
And actually according to this article, Pfizer did not perform this test using their shot, which is supposed to be routine...
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-skipped-critical-testing-quality-standards-covid-vaccine/
So I'd actually rely on the testimony of MRNA's creator at this point, and from what I've read and heard, these shots definitely do not make proper use of MRNA.
NuttBoxer saysPfizer...
link?
This looks like the one I remember, but it is not from Pfizer:
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
And actually according to this article, Pfizer did not perform this test using their shot, which is supposed to be routine...
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-skipped-critical-testing-quality-standards-covid-vaccine/
So I'd actually rely on the testimony of MRNA's creator at this point, and from what I've read and heard, these shots definitely do not make proper use of MRNA.
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Ceffer
2021 Jul 29, 2:58am
Ceffer
2021 Jul 29, 2:58am
"The spike protein from the jab was supposed to last only two weeks.."
They are going to have to work on the vaccine so nobody survives longer than two weeks any more.
They are going to have to work on the vaccine so nobody survives longer than two weeks any more.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Jul 29, 3:22am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Jul 29, 3:22am
NuttBoxer says
This looks like the one I remember, but it is not from Pfizer:Please consider that plasma is whole blood centrifuged to remove cells, cell debris, etc., So any cell bound spike protein is not measured. Further, any platelet bound spike protein is not measured, only spike in solution. So this study under-reports the total amount of the mRNA spike protein in circulation.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
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NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 29, 9:01am
NuttBoxer
2021 Jul 29, 9:01am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Good to know. And as I mentioned, after reading the second link I posted, it looks like Pfizer never did this research using their actual shot/MRNA concoction.
So this study under-reports the total amount of the mRNA spike protein in circulation.
Good to know. And as I mentioned, after reading the second link I posted, it looks like Pfizer never did this research using their actual shot/MRNA concoction.
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WookieMan
2021 Jul 29, 9:24am
WookieMan
2021 Jul 29, 9:24am
NuttBoxer says
All the major Pharma creating vaccines have no clue long term what this shit will do to people. It's been what maybe a year since they started testing this shit? The FDA hasn't approved it under normal terms. This is totally unprecedented.
Not saying it will cause cancer, but that can take years if not even up to a decade to even detect and you can live with it. My dads was detected and some treatment was given, but it was terminal. He lasted 6 years. We're injecting this shit into people and have ZERO clue the long term outcome or conditions that can arise from it.
The big question I've always had is what's the point? I don't even put pain killers in my body. This isn't fucking Ebola where you're bleeding out of your damn eye in painful misery. It's a one week flu in the bad cases. And yes, potential death no different than the flu. Most people don't have symptoms assuming the PCR test is even accurate. This is mind control and propaganda.
it looks like Pfizer never did this research using their actual shot/MRNA concoction.
All the major Pharma creating vaccines have no clue long term what this shit will do to people. It's been what maybe a year since they started testing this shit? The FDA hasn't approved it under normal terms. This is totally unprecedented.
Not saying it will cause cancer, but that can take years if not even up to a decade to even detect and you can live with it. My dads was detected and some treatment was given, but it was terminal. He lasted 6 years. We're injecting this shit into people and have ZERO clue the long term outcome or conditions that can arise from it.
The big question I've always had is what's the point? I don't even put pain killers in my body. This isn't fucking Ebola where you're bleeding out of your damn eye in painful misery. It's a one week flu in the bad cases. And yes, potential death no different than the flu. Most people don't have symptoms assuming the PCR test is even accurate. This is mind control and propaganda.
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Patrick
2022 Jul 22, 11:12am
Patrick
2022 Jul 22, 11:12am
https://gettr.com/post/p1jaw206585
rwmalonemd
@rwmalonemd
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4h
"Are Amyloid Fibrin Microclots Central to Long COVID?"
To the extent that these clots are driven by Spike protein, it is highly likely that the same mechanism is involved in much of the post-vaccination adverse events.
https://www.hematologyadvisor.com/home/topics/thrombotic-disorders/covid-amyloid-fibrin-micro-clots-central-treatment-risk/
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richwicks
2022 Jul 22, 11:51am
richwicks
2022 Jul 22, 11:51am
Patrick says
Well no offense, but "duh". The spike protein is the toxin. That's been known for a long time, and the MRNA "vaccines" cause cells to produce the spike protein - this has been known for over a year.
The only question is if the "vaccines" cause these proteins to be PERMANENTLY produced, or only temporarily produced, If it's permanent, they cause permanent disability. Your immune system should continually attack them, but if these are permanently produced, it's for life they do this.
Shedding by vaccinated and infected individuals will cause a temporary response, but if the MRNA has caused a permanent change, it's for life.
The RUMORS I've heard is that the omicron variant didn't contain the spike proteins and because it co-existed with the people it infected without causing harm, it more quickly spread since many people infected with it, didn't even know they were infected. The immune response to the omicron variant is so mild that it doesn't even cause sickness in many cases but provides good immunity against the more dangerous versions.
But this is rumor - rumor. Who knows?
https://gettr.com/post/p1jaw206585
rwmalonemd
@rwmalonemd
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4h
"Are Amyloid Fibrin Microclots Central to Long COVID?"
To the extent that these clots are driven by Spike protein, it is highly likely that the same mechanism is involved in much of the post-vaccination adverse events.
https://www.hematologyadvisor.com/home/topics/thrombotic-disorders/covid-amyloid-fibrin-micro-clots-central-treatment-risk/
Well no offense, but "duh". The spike protein is the toxin. That's been known for a long time, and the MRNA "vaccines" cause cells to produce the spike protein - this has been known for over a year.
The only question is if the "vaccines" cause these proteins to be PERMANENTLY produced, or only temporarily produced, If it's permanent, they cause permanent disability. Your immune system should continually attack them, but if these are permanently produced, it's for life they do this.
Shedding by vaccinated and infected individuals will cause a temporary response, but if the MRNA has caused a permanent change, it's for life.
The RUMORS I've heard is that the omicron variant didn't contain the spike proteins and because it co-existed with the people it infected without causing harm, it more quickly spread since many people infected with it, didn't even know they were infected. The immune response to the omicron variant is so mild that it doesn't even cause sickness in many cases but provides good immunity against the more dangerous versions.
But this is rumor - rumor. Who knows?
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mell
2022 Jul 22, 12:11pm
richwicks says
That's most certainly false and a stupid rumor. The virus doesn't suddenly shed a protein existential to it. Plus Omicron was (natural evolution) only a bit milder since initially covid was hyped as a severe disease it never was. Plenty of people get omicron with flu symptoms such as fever, gi issues, sore throat and cough. There is nothing sensational about it, except for that it likely was created in a lab with some superior infectious and potentially slightly more harmful qualities in the beginning. Otherwise it is a regular corona cold virus which will go endemic and stay with us likely for a very long time
Patrick says
https://gettr.com/post/p1jaw206585
rwmalonemd
@rwmalonemd
·
4h
"Are Amyloid Fibrin Microclots Central to Long COVID?"
To the extent that these clots are driven by Spike protein, it is highly likely that the same mechanism is involved in much of the post-vaccination adverse events.
https://www.hematologyadvisor.com/home/topics/thrombotic-disorders/covid-amyloid-fibrin-micro-clots-central-treatment-risk/
Well no offense, but "duh". The spike protein is the toxin. That's been known for a long time, and the MRNA "vaccines" cause cells to produce ...
That's most certainly false and a stupid rumor. The virus doesn't suddenly shed a protein existential to it. Plus Omicron was (natural evolution) only a bit milder since initially covid was hyped as a severe disease it never was. Plenty of people get omicron with flu symptoms such as fever, gi issues, sore throat and cough. There is nothing sensational about it, except for that it likely was created in a lab with some superior infectious and potentially slightly more harmful qualities in the beginning. Otherwise it is a regular corona cold virus which will go endemic and stay with us likely for a very long time
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richwicks
2022 Jul 22, 12:28pm
richwicks
2022 Jul 22, 12:28pm
mell says
You might very well be right. I absorb all the bullshit, but I don't decide on whether it's true or false until months, sometimes years later. I consider it a possibility.
mell says
The HYPOTHESIS is that infected and vaccinated people were shedding the protein that caused an immune reaction when inhaled. Could be complete hokum. Not a biologist, I hated biology, too stupid to really do the mental memorization to really understand it.
mell says
For a virus to survive, it needs to become less lethal. "Corona" is now only rarely lethal. Bill Gates is unhappy with that...
That's most certainly false and a stupid rumor.
You might very well be right. I absorb all the bullshit, but I don't decide on whether it's true or false until months, sometimes years later. I consider it a possibility.
mell says
The virus doesn't suddenly shed a protein existential to it.
The HYPOTHESIS is that infected and vaccinated people were shedding the protein that caused an immune reaction when inhaled. Could be complete hokum. Not a biologist, I hated biology, too stupid to really do the mental memorization to really understand it.
mell says
Otherwise it is a regular corona cold virus which will go endemic and stay with us likely for a very long time
For a virus to survive, it needs to become less lethal. "Corona" is now only rarely lethal. Bill Gates is unhappy with that...
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