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4   Ceffer   2021 Aug 10, 10:58pm  

Impossible to separate any 'facts' from propaganda screed, false testing etc. So much relentless paid deception going on, I'm wondering if the Globalists are giving soap opera weeping classes to their whores and minions.

original link
5   Patrick   2021 Aug 11, 11:44pm  



Looks like getting the jab makes you much more likely to die.
8   Patrick   2021 Aug 13, 10:22am  

Patrick says
Similar to Israel:




https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1423322271503028228#m


More confirmation:

https://patrick.net/post/1340631/2021-08-13-highly-vaccinated-country-of-israel-now

Highly "vaccinated" country of Israel now has highest rate of Wuhan Virus infection in the world
9   Hircus   2021 Aug 13, 11:29am  

Patrick says


Looks like getting the jab makes you much more likely to die.


On this, and a lot of other info sources that present the same "more deaths in the vaccinated" argument, I've yet to see the data further broken down by age and comorbidities.

I think people who are older and/or have more comorbidities are probably much more likely to get the jab, and may still die, even if the jab helps them. Basically, we might be seeing a hospital full of dying old unhealthy, who the vax couldnt save.

This is for americans, from the cdc

It shows the majority of vaccinations are in the older groups.
Its a weird stat though - its not saying that 14.1% of 40-49yr olds are vaccinated, its saying that of all the vaxd ppl, 14.1% are 40-49.
I would prefer to see to see data that shows what % of 40-49 are vaxd, but I didnt find it within a few min or searching.
As for why the % seems to go down for the 65+ ages, even though old people are at the highest risk of covid, and so would be expected to want the vax most? My guess is there's just less people alive in those groups:



edit - from
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic

again, this is awkward data, the link lets you hover the graph w/ tooltips that help to understand the chart. But, the gist of it is if the dark blue line is longer than the grey line, then that age group has a higher proportion of vaccinated than other age groups that dont have such a difference in line length. And as you can see, the older groups are the high proportion groups, meaning older people get vaccinated more often than younger people.
10   Patrick   2021 Aug 13, 11:34am  

Hircus says
On this, and a lot of other info sources that present the same "more deaths in the vaccinated" argument, I've yet to see the data further broken down by age and comorbidities.


Let me know if you find that.
11   mell   2021 Aug 13, 5:21pm  

Hircus says
again, this is awkward data, the link lets you hover the graph w/ tooltips that help to understand the chart. But, the gist of it is if the dark blue line is longer than the grey line, then that age group has a higher proportion of vaccinated than other age groups that dont have such a difference in line length. And as you can see, the older groups are the high proportion groups, meaning older people get vaccinated more often than younger people.


And the old people who don't get vaccinated usually have some condition that prevents them or makes it even more risky. So when they get covid they are already in worse health, so yeah the unvaccinated old may die more. For the younger folks the equation is totally different and they likely die more from the agent than covid.
12   Onvacation   2021 Aug 13, 5:56pm  

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13   Patrick   2021 Aug 13, 6:20pm  

mell says
For the younger folks the equation is totally different and they likely die more from the agent than covid.



This makes it a crime to give them the jab.

But it's a very profitable crime for Fauci, Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, and Astra Zenaca, so do not expect justice from our very corrupt government.
14   Patrick   2021 Aug 14, 10:47am  

https://newspunch.com/israel-experiences-surge-in-cardiac-arrests-and-heart-attacks-in-young-people/


Israel Experiences Surge in Cardiac Arrests and Heart Attacks in Young People
August 14, 2021

New concerning results, Israel 2021 (Prof. Retsef Levi)
MDA Emergency calls:
25% increase in Cardiac arrests & Heart attacks (16-29).
83.6% increase in Heart attacks (Women 20-29).
According to the study, this increase was correlated with Mass vaccination.

— Ran Israeli (@RanIsraeli) August 10, 2021

According to these tables, it seems like in the first five months of 2021 the increase was even higher than 25%.
His study also notes that according to the Bureau of Statistics – mortality rates among young people decreased simultaneously after the decrease in vaccination rates. pic.twitter.com/eNS1q4jbaR

— Ran Israeli (@RanIsraeli) August 10, 2021
1/6 My new research with Alexandra @CaudeHenrion reveals a peak in excess mortality among young Israeli adults (20-49 years) in February-March 2021. Link to article https://t.co/cdIVH1l6A6
This peak coincides with the beginning of the vax campaign in Israel pic.twitter.com/LiiusdqjJp

— ohanasteveVRAI (@OhanasteveV) August 11, 2021
2/6 A mortality spike of this magnitude has only been observed once in the past 10 years among young adults: during the war with Hamas in July 2014 pic.twitter.com/PSUBL6F9aW

— ohanasteveVRAI (@OhanasteveV) August 11, 2021
3/6 An explanation of this excess mortality by COVID-19 seems unrealistic to us given the inconsistency observed since February 2021 between COVID deaths and excess mortality in young adults pic.twitter.com/ClVdpY16VZ

— ohanasteveVRAI (@OhanasteveV) August 11, 2021
4/6 Two other countries that have massively vaccinated (United Kingdom and Hungary) are experiencing a comparable phenomenon, which is not observed on average in a group of 23 European countries that have more moderately vaccinated pic.twitter.com/LU6lhTszge

— ohanasteveVRAI (@OhanasteveV) August 11, 2021
5/6 On the medical level, recent sources establish the link between myocarditis and vax in young adults. On the other hand, a 20-30% increase in cardiac arrest was observed in young Israeli adults in Jan-May 2021 (vs 2019/2020)https://t.co/sL3LyfjcEH

— ohanasteveVRAI (@OhanasteveV) August 11, 2021
6/6 This accumulation of observations should lead in our view to a halt in the vaccination campaign while the origin of the young adult excess mortality in countries that have massively vaccinated their population against COVID-19 is clarified.

— ohanasteveVRAI (@OhanasteveV) August 11, 2021
In related news, serious cases of “breakthrough” covid among vaccinated Israelis are continuing to rise.

The number of serious cases is up 70% in a week, almost 20x since JuIy 1. This is starting to look very bad. have a funny feeling the Israelis may be starting to get worried about

CENSORED

(This is not a joke. I fear Twitter will can me if I say it.) pic.twitter.com/Ic5GnNFRs4

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) August 12, 2021
Incredible article.

Israel, with a nearly entirely vaccinated adult population, now expects this coronavirus wave to be the worst yet – up to 2,500 serious cases compared to 1,200 in January.

Note: the article doesn’t mention vaccines once. It’s like they never even happened. pic.twitter.com/qgyJqo9bzt

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) August 12, 2021
15   Ceffer   2021 Aug 14, 10:52am  

Zelenko addresses Rabbinical Council, accuses Israeli government of Mengele experimentation on populace. He says he gets daily death threats and has placed his career in jeopardy by speaking out.

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16   Patrick   2021 Aug 14, 2:47pm  

I think he's a good guy, doing the right thing.
17   Patrick   2021 Aug 14, 11:13pm  

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/covid-outbreak-hits-carnival-cruise-despite-every-guest-staff-being-vaccinated-zero-unvaccinated-aboard/


Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest & Staff Being Vaccinated. ZERO unvaccinated aboard.
August 13, 2021 by IWB
Sharing is Caring!
Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest & Staff Being Vaccinated

ZERO unvaccinated aboard. It goes against the narrative that the reason for “breakthrough cases” is too many unvaccinated people.

A strict face mask policy was implemented.t.co/RjCIGyOMeQ

— LionHearted (@LionInWinter44) August 6, 2021

Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest & Staff Being Vaccinated

See also Here’s When the Eviction Ban, Student Loan Pause and Other COVID Programs Expire
ZERO unvaccinated aboard. It goes against the narrative that the reason for “breakthrough cases” is too many unvaccinated people.

See also CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Covid Vaccines — ‘What they can’t do is prevent transmission’
A strict face mask policy was implemented.

twitter.com/LionInWinter44/status/1423686355884838922?s=19

thelibertydaily.com/covid-outbreak-hits-carnival-cruise-despite-every-guest-and-staff-member-being-vaccinated/
18   Karloff   2021 Aug 15, 9:44am  

If only they'd have implemented triple masking everywhere, at all times, even while eating and sleeping, they would have avoided this tragic fate.

They're probably testing people like crazy, even if they have no symptoms. The poor sods who are victims of the bogus tests then get quarantined for the rest of their so-called vacation, ruining it. What a rip-off.

I like the headline in the second link, putting "vaccinated" in quotes, similar to how you'd refer to a boulder as a "flotation device".
19   Patrick   2021 Aug 16, 3:52pm  

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.
20   Patrick   2021 Aug 18, 10:31am  

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta


“There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government.
22   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2021 Aug 26, 4:19am  

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
23   pudil   2021 Aug 26, 4:54am  

Patrick says


Looks like getting the jab makes you much more likely to die.


This post is misleading and you should delete it. I appreciate the alternative views this site presents, but you can’t strawman the data, it helps no one.

The unvaccinated cohort was much younger, that brought down the total death average. If you simply compare chance of death for person over 50 unvaccinated vs vaccinated, vaccinated has much lower death rate.
24   Onvacation   2021 Aug 26, 6:28am  

pudil says
If you simply compare chance of death for person over 50 unvaccinated vs vaccinated, vaccinated has much lower death rate.

Link?
25   GNL   2021 Aug 26, 7:32am  

pudil says
The unvaccinated cohort was much younger, that brought down the total death average. If you simply compare chance of death for person over 50 unvaccinated vs vaccinated, vaccinated has much lower death rate.

You may or may not be correct. Can you prove this? If not, this comment is misleading and you should take it down.
26   WookieMan   2021 Aug 26, 7:44am  

WineHorror1 says
pudil says
The unvaccinated cohort was much younger, that brought down the total death average. If you simply compare chance of death for person over 50 unvaccinated vs vaccinated, vaccinated has much lower death rate.

You may or may not be correct. Can you prove this? If not, this comment is misleading and you should take it down.

Who cares. Math is math. If vaccines worked, we'd have less cases and deaths right now with supposedly 70% of the population having one jab. There's not much of a point in arguing over it.

What's misleading is that our government won't acknowledge this. We are seeing trend lines higher than fall 2020 WITH a vaccine. And yet hospitals are being overwhelmed still? This is really a simple math problem and obvious. People are just suckered into a narrative our government and media put out there.

Not saying you Wine, but no post should be removed unless it's doxxing or a threat that could get Patrick in trouble. Anyone that promotes taking comments or posts down is part of the problem. pudil posted no counter argument at all to the data and needs to be called out. We've got to stop letting the brainwashed control us. You cannot just demand something is taken down on a website you don't even run. We need discussion or minds cannot be unwashed so to speak.
27   WookieMan   2021 Aug 26, 7:48am  

Also, anyone ever think about the fact more hospitals weren't built in the last decades with a huge demo of aging boomers? Maybe the medical field needs more beds to deal with a huge aging population and stop blaming it on a mundane flu? Instead we tell everyone to go into hiding and wear useless masks. Build hospitals. Incentivize people to get into health care, instead of paying people printed money that make $150k. The dying of boomers only will get worse before it gets better. Manage the fucking problem. Private business or government. Hold them accountable.
28   Robert Sproul   2021 Aug 26, 7:52am  

pudil says
This post is misleading and you should delete it. I appreciate the alternative views this site presents, but you can’t strawman the data, it helps no one.

I wonder which one is "pudil"

29   mell   2021 Aug 26, 8:01am  

Pudil is referring to Simpsons paradox and there is some validity to that argument, similarly for Israel, but either way the vaxxine data is so weak that it's statistically insignificant and doesn't factor in any side effects, maimings and death. They don't work and are hazardous. Period.
30   Patrick   2021 Aug 26, 9:07am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/prison-island-australia-covid-fortress-become-jail/

Prison island: Australia’s COVID fortress has become a jail
32   Patrick   2021 Aug 27, 2:49pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/so-wonderful-vaccinated-residents-of-sydney-australia-will-soon-be-permitted-an-extra-hour-of-outdoor-recreation-time

So wonderful, such freedom! Vaccinated residents of Sydney, Australia will soon be permitted an extra hour of outdoor recreation time
34   Patrick   2021 Aug 30, 11:30pm  

https://twitter.com/SongFei2017/status/1431227204537491461


Song Fei
@SongFei2017
Aug 27
Replying to @RWMaloneMD @wellnessFR
unexplainable! Israel is one of the highest vaccinated and the third was done on a large scale! Also the Israelis are very self-disciplined but until yesterday, the infection rate keeps rising over 10,000. With only 9 M, Israel has the highest infection rate in the world, Why?
35   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 11:47am  

https://reclaimthenet.org/israel-vaccine-passports-will-soon-only-be-issued-to-those-whove-had-3rd-dose/


August 31, 2021
Israel: vaccine passports will soon only be issued to those who’ve had 3rd dose
The goalposts have moved.


You will never be fully vaccinated. There is always money to be made by injecting you again, and again, and again.
36   AmericanKulak   2021 Aug 31, 8:34pm  

Patrick says
You will never be fully vaccinated. There is always money to be made by injecting you again, and again, and again.


Yep, the goal is to make it like the Flu shot, except mandatory or "Mandatory by Corporate-Government Collusion" the same way they censor Social Media.
37   mell   2021 Aug 31, 8:46pm  

I just watched the full Australian news clip, that country is lost unless it completely fires its politicians, either by vote or revolution. It really looks and sounds like a dystopian movie, one has a hard time grappling with the fact that those are real news.
38   AmericanKulak   2021 Aug 31, 8:48pm  

mell says
I just watched the full Australian news clip, that country is lost unless it completely fires its politicians, either by vote or revolution. It really looks and sounds like a dystopian movie, one has a hard time grappling with the fact that those are real news.


Mell, maybe you know, is it the Provincial Governors or the National Government? The guy who was elected was supposed to be based, and won in a surprise against the Left-Liberals who were supposed to cruise to victory.
39   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 8:57pm  

There may be hope for Australia:

https://www.rt.com/news/532736-australia-coronavirus-protest-horse/

‘They can’t arrest us all’: Horse-mounted protesters steal the show at Australian anti-lockdown rally

Mounted police officers are commonly used at rallies around the globe, but mounted protesters seem to be an Australian innovation as a man was filmed encouraging people to break Covid-19 rules from the back of a white horse.

The epic scene was filmed in Tweed Heads on the border between Queensland and New South Wales (NSW), where around a thousand people gathered on Sunday to decry the ban on crossing state lines, introduced to stem the spread of the coronavirus.

A man galloped on a white horse among the demonstrators, while delivering a sort of a passionate pre-battle speech.

“Cross over! Everyone go across the border! Cross over! They can’t arrest us all,” the rider shouted, prompting applause and cheers from his fellow protesters.

A man has ridden his horse through today’s protest at the Queensland-New South Wales border, encouraging crowds to cross through checkpoints. “Cross over! They cannot arrest all of us!” https://t.co/vCkgfVcizZ#COVID19#7NEWSpic.twitter.com/tyHcBpuVBM ...

The mounted protester also reminded commentators of 13th century Scottish independence hero, William Wallace, who was portrayed by Aussie actor, Mel Gibson, in the Oscar-winning movie ‘Braveheart’.

He thinks he's >>> pic.twitter.com/3KJeohWdBV

— Jacqueline M 🐨 🐾💉 💉 (@jacket1962) August 22, 2021
Wallace was fighting for freedom, and people who took part in the rally insisted that they were doing the very same thing. The closure of the border with New South Wales, which remains the worst-hit state by the Delta variant, and other Covid-19 restrictions are “a direct attack on my freedom of liberty, freedom to move,” one of them told ABC News. Such measures will “break up of the Commonwealth of Australia” and signal “the end of democracy as we know it,” he warned. ...

ALSO ON RT.COM
Over 200 arrested, at least 7 police injured amid chaotic Covid-19 protests in Australia (VIDEOS)

Australia, where at least a quarter of the population currently remains under stay-at-home orders, has seen a wave of protests against Covid-19 rules in the past couple of days.

The country’s most populous state, New South Wales, had recently extended its lockdown, while also introducing a night-time curfew for nearly a half of Sydney’s five million residents.

Despite the harsh measures, NSW has just recorded its worst day of the pandemic, with 830 new cases, three deaths and more than 900 people being fined for breaching health rules.

ALSO ON RT.COM
Australian PM vows to keep lockdowns until 70% of population is vaccinated as more protesters hit streets despite police crackdown

Overall, Australia’s Covid-19 numbers remain pretty low, with just under 44,000 cases and 981 deaths. However, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Sunday that the lockdowns will remain in place until at least 70% of the population are vaccinated. So far, less than 30% of Australians have gotten both shots of the vaccine.
40   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 8:57pm  

I think I read elsewhere that he pointed out that Australia's problems stem from the fact that the country is run largely by childless older women.

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