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The Destruction of Trust In The CDC and Public Health Establishment Is Now Complete

By Patrick follow Patrick   2021 Aug 12, 12:36am 1,545 views   95 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share

The new mask recommendations are a disgraceful debacle, doomed to fail...again

As soon as politicians, media members and incompetent and terrified “experts” became ideologically committed to ineffective interventions, they could never end.

The CDC has been the most reliable and consistent contributor to destructive and functionally useless mask recommendations. They’ve used unconscionably bad, dangerously incompetent and misleading “studies,” along with hilariously useless “hairdresser” examples to “prove” mask efficacy. Finally though, after throwing out their own pre-pandemic planning documents to promote a policy with no demonstrable benefits, the CDC displayed confidence in the “safe and effective” vaccines and removed their useless mask guidelines just two and a half months ago.

And yet. It’s all happening. The CDC flip flopped again. Masks are back.

Many of us arguing against lockdowns and masks and other related and equally ineffective “mitigations” have been pointing out for months now that the CDC has been unbelievably bad at their literal one job. We’ve been pointing out that the CDC’s credibility has been irreparably damaged based on their demonstrable incompetence and ever changing messaging with unchanging certainty. But no one, and I mean no one, could have foreseen that the death blow to the CDC’s credibility would come from the CDC itself.

I guess it shouldn’t be as surprising as it is that they put the final nail in their own coffin, but somehow their devotion to pseudoscience never ceases to amaze.

Bringing back masks is the end. It has to be. They were unequivocal in their assertions that the available vaccines were remarkably effective at preventing infections and transmission, symptomatic illness, severe cases and ultimately deaths.

Yesterday’s announcement is completely incompatible with their previous statements and should be an inescapable disaster for the country’s trust in “public health” and what the CDC, Fauci and others laughably refer to as “science.”

So let’s go over this unfolding debacle!

April 1
INTELLIGENCER HEADLINE: “CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus”
Got that? No hemming and hawing, no uncertainty, no “don’t spread the virus as much,” it literally says that the vaccinated CAN NOT SPREAD THE VIRUS. CAN NOT. It’s not possible for them to spread it, that’s what the “data” says.

Here’s a direct quote from the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky:

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

They do not carry the virus and do not get sick. Focus on the “they do not carry the virus” part for a second. If vaccinated people can’t carry it, how can they spread it?

They can’t! That’s what the CDC says:

Walensky was referring to a new CDC study that suggests those fully inoculated with the vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer don’t transmit the virus.

So naturally,

“The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.”

They are the key tool. Masks used to be, of course, but now vaccines will end the pandemic. Let’s keep that in mind. ...

July 27
CNBC Headline: “CDC reverses indoor mask policy, saying fully vaccinated people and kids should wear them indoors”
There it is. The destruction of any remaining shreds of credibility the CDC and Fauci had left.

So what was the justification for this dramatic shift? The delta variant! The same variant that Fauci said the vaccines did “very well” against. ...

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56   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Nov 7, 7:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
@Patrick, I've seen this a few times now. What is the big difference?

Vaccines create immunity to a disease. The new "definition" says it just stimulates the immune system.

True. Vaccines would have been pointless if they did not stop you from catching, carrying, or spreading the disease.

Polio is a true vaccine that stops the inoculated from getting Polio at all, while even the CDC admits that the Pfizer/Moderna jabs provide no protection against catching or spreading Covid.
57   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 7, 8:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says

Getting no response, there was a follow-up e-mail a week later: “The definition of vaccine we have posted is problematic and people are using it to claim the COVID-19 vaccine is not a vaccine based on our own definition.” ...

The change of the “vaccination” definition was eventually approved on August 31. The next day, on September 1, they approved the change to the “vaccine” definition from discussing immunity to protection (seen below).

There you have it. Affirmative action for the multinational corporations. Why have them improve their vaccines when you can just change the definition of vaccine to fit their ineffective vaccines?

Congrats to all the skeptics out there – you raised enough hell that the the CDC went and tried to change reality.
58   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 8, 10:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

So here is what blows my mind: We are living in a world where the CDC director can say something that is false, made-up and no institution will say otherwise. At the same time, major, venerable fact checking institutions are literally asserting as fact something which is at best unproven.

No matter how you feel about these issues; these are dangerous times. Truth and falsehood is not a matter of science but cultural power— the ability to proclaim and define the truth. If this continues, dark times lie ahead. Someday soon, we may not like who defines the truth.
59   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 8, 11:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
So here is what blows my mind: We are living in a world where the CDC director can say something that is false, made-up and no institution will say otherwise. At the same time, major, venerable fact checking institutions are literally asserting as fact something which is at best unproven.

Ramifications of calling conjectures facts

    * Claims that mislead the patient taxpayer are unhelpful and the public will eventually distrust scientific claims into other fields.
    * Uncorrected or unfounded assertions jeopardize science beyond a singular field, especially since there is mounting distrust in higher education in general.
    * Condescending comments toward the public (or a student), if they will not embrace our conjectures as facts, will lead to continued division between scientists and nonscientists, which can yield public reluctance to fund our research.
    * We must tell the truth with specificity. If it is a fact, say it. If it is not a fact, say it.
    * Blackballing scientists if they bear legitimate non-conformist views, by excluding them from professional societies and academies, withholding their funding or denying them tenure, is anti-scientific and it will retard the advancement of science.
61   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 10, 7:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

Story at-a-glance:

Recent data from the U.K. Office of National Statistics reveals people who have been double jabbed against COVID-19 are dying from all causes at a rate six times higher than the unvaccinated.
In the U.S., meanwhile, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is propping up the official narrative with two manipulated studies — one suggesting the jab reduces all-cause mortality, and another claiming the shot is five times more protective than natural immunity.
Both studies are of questionable quality and have several problems, including selection of time and date ranges that allow them to pretend that the COVID shots are safer and more effective than they really are.
According to all-cause mortality statistics, the number of Americans who died between January 2021 and August 2021 is 16% higher than 2018 (the pre-COVID year with the highest all-cause mortality) and 18% higher than the average death rate between 2015 and 2019.
Did COVID-19 raise the death toll despite mass vaccination, or are people dying at increased rates because of the COVID jabs?
62   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 10, 7:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

(Natural News) The mainstream media is stumped about the hordes of sick and dying patients that are now swarming American hospitals.

According to the talking-heads, these people do not have the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) because many of them are “fully vaccinated,” so the whole thing is a “mystery,” they claim.

Since the jabs are “safe and effective,” there is no explanation for this latest crisis. It must just be a coincidence, right?

“ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients – but many don’t even have covid,” reported Michigan Radio.

NPR also relayed the story, pretending as though there is no connection between this sudden spike in hospitalizations immediately following Joe Biden’s jab mandates.

As we reported, there are barely any hospital beds remaining as the completely jabbed flood their local ICUs. ...

Covid jabs are clearly and obviously what’s making people sick

The situation is much the same in Australia, where some of the worst Chinese Flu fascism has been thrust on the people in the name of “public health.”

ABC in Australia reported that hospitals across the country are “under pressure.” The same media outlet is blaming the surge on the “Delta (variant) threat.”

“Australian hospitals are already overwhelmed and falling behind, even with the ‘once-in-a-generation’ slowdown in patient numbers that came with COVID-19,” the media outlet reported, citing a report from medical authorities.

“According to the report, the number of patients leaving the emergency departments within four hours dropped to 69 per cent, its worst level since 2012-13.”

Australian Premier Mark McGowan gave a press conference recently in which he pretended not to know why fully vaccinated Australians are getting sick and dying in record numbers.

“This has been something that no one has ever seen before,” McGowan said. “Why it is, is hard to know, except that there is some evidence that it’s some sort of delayed reaction to ‘covid.'”

“But there are a huge number of people coming through the doors and we’re doing everything we can to try and manage it,” he added. “In particular, in the budget, we allocated another $1.9 billion for additional staff – doctors, nurses and the like.”

McGowan further revealed that an additional $3.1 billion was allocated for “new capital works” – because redistributing taxpayer money to pet projects is the government’s way of “curing” mystery diseases.

Sweden, which rejected most of the plandemic tyranny but still brought in the “Operation Warp Speed” jabs, is likewise seeing a “record month” in hospitalizations.

It would appear as though the fully jabbed in that country are experiencing antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) or some other cocktail of complications caused by the injections.

“It will be interesting to look at what this is about,” said Johan Björk, the head of an emergency room in Jönköping that is being overwhelmed with sick patients. “Research will certainly be done on this.”

“So, if it’s not covid and it seems to be an outbreak, what else has changed in, oh, say, the last 12 months?” asked one commenter at Information Liberation.

“Heck, I will give you a guess: it is usually plastic with a very sharp point with a chemical inside.”
63   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 10, 7:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
“Heck, I will give you a guess: it is usually plastic with a very sharp point with a chemical inside.”

64   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 11, 10:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

Pfizer's Covid jab trial researchers in Texas 'skewed data, didn't follow-up with patients who had side effects and failed to test people with symptoms', BMJ investigation claims
Whistleblower who worked at firm paid to run trial documented dozen failings
She provided British Medical Journal with number of document, photo proof
Other failings include storing vaccines wrongly and hiring underqualified staff
66   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 19, 10:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag



At Least Half of Panel Advising Congress on Drug Policy Had Undisclosed Ties to Drugmakers
An investigation by Project On Government Oversight investigation found at least seven of 14 committee members charged with advising Congress on drug policy had undisclosed past or current financial ties to drug companies. One member earned $875 per hour as an expert witness for Merck.
67   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 19, 10:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

Jordan Peterson says he spoke to a senior government adviser who told him Canada’s COVID restriction policies are completely driven by opinion polls and not science.

“In relation to the COVID restrictions, I talked to a senior adviser to one of the provincial governments a couple of weeks ago,” said Peterson.

“He told me flat out that the COVID policy here is driven by nothing but opinion polls related to the popularity of the government,” he added.

“No science, no endgame in sight, no real plan, and so what that means is that the part of the population that is most afraid of COVID,” are driving the policy.

Peterson pointed to figures that prove people vastly exaggerate the risk of being hospitalized by COVID due to relentless government fearmongering campaigns.
69   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Nov 27, 12:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CDC head confirmed that she doesn’t know how many of CDC employees got clot shots when asked by Louisiana state senator on Nov 04. CDC is a totally corrupt vaccine marketing company.
70   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2021 Nov 27, 1:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Someday soon, we may not like who defines the truth.

71   theoakman   ignore (0)   2021 Nov 27, 3:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

the CDC director has proven that she's too stupid to even study for 15 minutes prior to testifying. She's also a liar.
73   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Dec 2, 7:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That is not "business' either. It is crony capitalism, also known as corruption.
75   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Dec 12, 1:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

regulators have been consumed by covid monomania and every other area of medical endeavor is suffering as a result ...

the FDA (and other health regulators) have gone on weird, fundamentalist covidian pilgrimages at the expense of literally everything else.

facilities remain uninspected. trials are not getting approved. ongoing and planned clinical trails are failing or being postponed because the endless circus of randomly rotating regulations make it impossible to enroll and follow up patients and increasingly because the FDA refuses to provide the comments and engagement on study and submission design integral to a successful process. ...

this used to run quite well. frankly, under gottlieb, the FDA was truly a gold standard organization and they hit their dates well while providing high quality review and striking a good balance of working with companies on their projects while demanding good study design and requiring sound endpoints and data.

since scott left mid term in april of 2019 to “spend more time with his family” the FDA has been in a downspiral. his departure itself was deeply odd. you basically never see a mid-term resignation, especially from such a popular and effective leader. ...

this is not a make believe game played for goldfish crackers, this is the engine of medical advancement and it has been idled so that we can chase nothing but covid and push massive new products of dubious utility (to the unprecedented profit of a few big companies) while the rest of the industry gets plowed under.

this will, of course, wind up benefiting the big pharma companies a second time as all the stranded assets will be cheap to acquire. (oh, did you think this would be a one act play? not likely.) ...

the FDA seems to have become a wholly owned subsidiary of “covid inc” a public private collaboration of crony capitalism and political preferencing. this is going to pay nasty dividends for a long time to come.

keep one thing in mind:

it was not covid that did this. it was covid policy.

this was a choice.
76   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Dec 16, 10:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

At this point, I think it is clear: many pandemic experts hurt children.

School closure was the greatest self inflicted wound of the pandemic. Sensible European nations did not close primary school at all, or only for 6 weeks, but places in the USA remained closed for more than a year. This was a net negative for the health and well-being of children, and will damage this nation for years to come. I am not sure we will recover.

This decision was made only in some places in the USA, and not others, and was not explained by virus specific properties— it had no correlation with cases/100k or hospitalizations per capita—but solely the political valence of a region/ strength of teachers unions. When the history books are written, school closure will be viewed, as I have said before: a massively catastrophic and harmful blunder that was fueled by mis-information from the legacy media, and many pundits who lacked experience adjudicating trade-offs.

But the experts did not stop with closure. To this day, children suffer some of the harshest restrictions. In many parts of the USA, including school districts in California, school kids must wear cloth masks inside and outside (Nov 2021). During recess, and in inclement weather (rain). In some locations, they must eat lunch outside, in a hurry (time limits), or in the cold.
77   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Dec 17, 5:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

'Public Health Experts' in government & academia have exposed themselves as clueless charlatans
No, we don't have 'the tools' to stop this virus, and that's okay.

They are all just barfing up the talking points they are ordered to barf up.

And Democrats just lap that barf up, over and over. And then lick their lips.
78   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Dec 22, 4:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

Biden Pick for FDA Chief Holds Millions in Big Pharma Investments
Dr. Robert Califf, President Biden's pick to lead the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, made millions as a consultant for more than a dozen pharmaceutical corporations and holds millions more in Big Pharma investments.
79   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Dec 23, 5:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

FDA Authorizes Pfizer’s Wuhan Virus Pill Weeks After Landing $5 Billion Deal With Biden Administration

The Biden administration has already purchased some 10 million courses of Paxlovid in a deal with $5 billion.

So... The Biden administration shovels another $5 billion of taxpayer cash to Pfizer and then the FDA suddenly says the pill looks good to them?

All of these shitstains would hang and their bodies would be eaten by ravens and dogs in any just world, especially Bourla, Collins, and Fauci.

We have nothing but criminals running the corporate-government festering sore that claims to represent the people.
80   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Dec 23, 5:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
We have nothing but criminals running the corporate-government festering sore that claims to represent the people.

In my opinion, it's been this way for 2 full decades.

I'm just happy that people are starting to realize it now.
81   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 2, 12:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

The misinformation from the CDC keep on coming
I could spend all day, every day, dissecting the garbage that gets published by the CDC. This paper was a doozy.

82   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 6, 2:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

CDC Not Investigating Myocarditis Death of 13-Year-Old Days After Pfizer Shot, Emails Reveal
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is leaving it to state health departments to investigate deaths reported following COVID vaccines, including the June 2021 death of 13-year-old Jacob Clynick who died of myocarditis three days after his second Pfizer shot.
83   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 8, 9:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

such credibility as it once had, the WHO has squandered and then some over these two long years of beclowning themselves with reversals, reversions, fabrications, and fantastical fright narratives, seemingly at random.

this is just more of the same and i’m not even going to try to speculate on motive anymore. it’s just too absurd.

Stunning how brazen the lies are now.
84   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 12, 5:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

So the guy asking questions starts simple: a VAERS question about the number of deaths. He remarks that it’s been reported by virologists and scientists that the VAERS data system contains thousands of death reports. Is this true? Pretty simple question, yes? I can answer now, without thinking or making a reference to getting hit by a car. Yes. It does contain thousands of death reports in the context of the COVID-19 injectable products.

What say you of VAERS, Rochelle? Thousands (actually it’s tens of thousands and there is an over 6000% increase over the past 30 year average) dead in VAERS in context of COVID-19 injectable products… Is this true?

Rochelle through her multiple masks: Let’s not answer the question and talk about getting hit by a car!

A number? Any idea? Nope. Er. Uh. Referral.

Records of deaths?

Fauci: No absolute number. (Muted microphone.) No number. But let’s talk about getting hit by that car again! ‘Everything that happens after the vax is considered a death?’ What the hell is he even trying to say?

Rochelle: And every one of those is adjudicated.

WHAT? ADJUDICATED? Unless they also changed the definition of adjudicated to ignored, then I think you have the wrong word lady.

5 days after being ‘omicron asymptomatic’, you are allowed to go out! But no traveling, no gyms, no travel, no traveling, no living, no eating.

Yeah, just put your multiple masks on and go home. It’s safer. And for Christ’s sake, don’t talk to anyone or express any kind of love or be human.
86   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 12, 6:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's getting interesting. The CDC director just posted this on her twitter feed.
The hardcore "Lock me down" types are freaking out... (MUH preprint)

87   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 12, 7:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

Early treatment was really the only intervention we ever needed treat COVID. But fat chance of that ever happening. No nation on earth is that smart to acknowledge that. I don’t think it’s ever going to happen because nobody wants to admit they were wrong.

Too bad no public official in the US is calling for a debate on this with our team of scientists. They don’t want to be exposed as incompetent. ...

They deliberately covered up the lab leak and conspired to treat those who told the truth as “conspiracy theorists”
We now know that NIH knew the virus was man-made (since they funded it) and then when it was released, they deliberately covered it up and conspired to paint those people telling the truth as “conspiracy theorists.” ...

Quebec to force unvaccinated to pay financial penalties
Quebec is going to charge the unvaccinated to pay for skyrocketing healthcare costs. You really can't make this stuff up. It’s an AP News story. I'm sure we're next.
90   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 13, 1:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I know it's been posted before, but so appropriate.
91   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 14, 10:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

“The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75 percent, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”

That declaration by the director of the Centers for Disease Control, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, is one of those fall-out-of-your-chair moments. You’re tempted to repeat it several times just to be sure every syllable is in the right place.

Did she mean the deaths of all the people who died of Covid? Seventy-five percent. Or did she mean the people who died with Covid? The preposition, we have learned, matters muchly. “Of” means Covid is the murder weapon. “With” means Colonel Mustard did it with a poker in the library, and Covid was just standing in the corner. Listen carefully to the tape of Walensky on Good Morning America and it sounds like she means “with.” How many people actually died of Covid has been a dark CDC secret from early on. ...

Of course, many of us have been skeptical all along about the reported numbers, but the CDC has stalwartly told us, no, things are really bad. What loosens Dr. Walensky’s lips at this point?

We are left to wonder. Is it the widespread recognition that the vaccines are not very good at stopping the transmission of the virus? Is it that the boosters administered to people outside the red zone of age and comorbidity are more likely to harm than to protect? Is it that the Great Scare is losing its edge faster than a melting icicle?

We can trust that somewhere in the Batcave of the Biden administration a decision has been handed down. Now is the time to cool the Covid hysteria. Word must go out that Omicron is only my head cold.

No doubt, weaning people off masks, social distancing and shutdowns will be difficult. Devotion to Faucism has taken root like Chinese bittersweet along our roadsides, choking out the native foliage. The comparison to a salvation cult is too easy to make. By comparison, the salvationist cults I used to study were far more questioning of their premises and closer in spirit to the séance-busting Houdini or doubtful Richard Dawkins than the Fauci-ites are to questioning their master’s pronouncements. My guess is that Fauci will soon be cashing in his reported $350,000 per year federal retirement package — the largest in the history of the federal government.

I’d also advise Dr. Walensky to steer clear of the library. She has the quadruple comorbidity of knowing too much, lying too often, panicking too many and reassuring too faintly. At least she shouldn’t go in there with Ron Klain fingering a piece of rope or Jill Biden pinching a hat pin.
95   Patrick   ignore (1)   2022 Jan 23, 2:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

CDC Director Walensky Says The CDC Is Changing From "Fully Vaxxed" To "Up To Date," Meaning You'll Have To Get Boosted To Remain "Fully Vaxxed"

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