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How do you respond these statements/questions from a Pro Covid Vaxxer?

By WineHorror1 follow WineHorror1   2021 Aug 19, 1:07pm 681 views   53 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


1. We eliminated the Spanish Flu
2. We beat polio and small pox
3. The vax will lesson symptoms if you get Covid
4. Why do you believe conspiracies?
5. I took the vax and I'm fine

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14   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   ignore (4)   2021 Aug 19, 4:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
What other statements/questions have you heard from Pro Covid Vaxxers?


Most people just say they are scared and think vaccine will make them safer. It's not really questions, it's just how many feel about it. However, I don't think it'll last. I know a family, they all got covid a month after vaccines anyway... they were under impression that it prevents them from getting it.
15   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 4:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
What other statements/questions have you heard from Pro Covid Vaxxers?


“You’re a Trumpie”
“Where do you get your news?”
16   Robert Sproul   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 19, 4:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
4. Why do you believe conspiracies?

"You know what’s not a “conspiracy theory”? Pfizer has, on multiple occasions, lied, manipulated or falsified data, bribed doctors, and knowingly caused harm to people using its products. They have paid out billions in criminal fines. No product made by them should ever be forced." Twitterverse
17   Robert Sproul   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 19, 4:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Karloff says
People who start smoking don't develop cancer right away.

Good one. It is like smoking for 6 or 8 months and saying "yer crazy, look at me, I'm fine"
18   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 19, 4:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Shaman says
WineHorror1 says
What other statements/questions have you heard from Pro Covid Vaxxers?


“You’re a Trumpie”
“Where do you get your news?”


That shows how deranged and retarded most modern leftoids are - everytime I hear that I tell them "did you know that Trump actually promoted the vaccines and wanted to apply them in 1 year vs 5 years? Fuck you!" Why are they so stupid? I mean even the lamestream media did not black out that orange man heavily promoted the vaccines and he still does so today!
19   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 5:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Shaman says
WineHorror1 says
What other statements/questions have you heard from Pro Covid Vaxxers?


“You’re a Trumpie”
“Where do you get your news?”


Such a question would be a great opportunity!

Point them to Dr. Malone for starters, since he's the inventor of the mRNA vax and thinks universal jabs are dangerously stupid.

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD
20   Booger   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 19, 5:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
5. I took the vax and I'm fine.


You are, FOR NOW. Long term effects are unknown.

I know a couple of really old people who got the clot shot. Their reasoning is that they aren't going to live that much longer anyway, so long term effects aren't important to them.
21   clambo   ignore (5)   2021 Aug 19, 5:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I understand why reasonable people don’t want the shot, and I don’t blame them.

I took it despite knowing that Fauci and the talking heads were full of shit, the lockdowns were unnecessary, that other things can treat me, and my primary care doctor annoying me with questions about my taking it.

I don’t know why lefties are surprised that after a year and a half of being pushed around, someone decided to say no to the medical and media mafia.

Incidentally, are you aware 1. How many hospitals are for profit 2. How much they make from elective surgery?
The medical people almost all have a financial interest in hospitals with plenty of space for the surgery cash cows.

I know doctors and I respect them, but they make a lot of money in the USA and being a surgeon doesn’t make your grasp of reality better than mine.

They are worried that hospitals are too full; deal with it. Some people are going to bite the biscuit. Some people might have been better off if they had taken the shot; so what? It’s their body and tough shit.

They have not outlawed Everclear Vodka (200 proof) which is going to be converted to an aldehyde after you drink it, not outlawed cigarettes, gambling, dirt bike racing, surfing, skiing.

12,000+ people per year die falling down stairs, but they are still legal.
22   Booger   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 19, 5:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I usually just tell pro ☠️ 💉 people "my body my choice" and then to fuck off.
23   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 19, 5:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
I usually just tell pro ☠️ 💉 people "my body my choice" and then to fuck off.
24   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 Aug 19, 6:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I just remind them that they aren't vaccinated against covid either.


Then I inform them the only way to be safe from not getting Corona, is to participate in ANTIFA and BLM marches with tens of thousands of people and congregate with as many massless Liberals as you can. Then tell them, that is not they need to worry about getting corona. It is us that lives in the heart of the Covid strike zones. Corona is everywhere the Democrats need it to be. That seems to be, anywhere that is politically leaning on voting for Trump and pro America views. Let them know that is us that should be killed over and dead by now. The magic smart virus doesn't attack Democrats. Unless they go to the hospital, then it's the intubation that gets you. You're more likely to be snuffed out by your Covid nurse at 3am in the dark, than you are being killed by the virus.

Then ask them why are they so against us taking known remedy treatments for it? Ask them shouldn't they have as much respect for our choice of dealing with corona, as they are demanding from us? AT least we're not demanding they don't get the Vax conjob.

If you weren't able to get any of those words in because they were shouting over you the whole time. Just knock their fucking teeth out of their head. That's the biggest problem in America too many fucking Liberals with a full set of teeth.
25   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 6:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Always fun to answer a question with a question. Were you born stupid or were you carefully taught and conditioned by mainstream media outlets to abandon reason for madness?
Were you this stupid before you took the jab?
If the risk of vaccination is not zero, why would you support harming innocent people under 18 who are more likely to be hit by lightning than have a bad bout of CooF?
26   Robert Sproul   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 19, 6:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The thing that has amazed me THE most about the whole Covid Cock-up is seeing stark indoctrination up close.
The Pod People are not at all informed, they have no facts or knowledge base on this issue. They have zero skepticism or even curiosity.
They are irritated and dismissive if you present them with an alternative fact or statistic.
The Zombies are all around me and they frankly freak me the fuck out. You can no longer trust them on anything.
27   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 6:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Robert Sproul says
The Zombies are all around me and they frankly freak me the fuck out. You can no longer trust them on anything.


You're freaked out? I'm in Silly Con Valley. I have gone from thinking "I work with a lot of smart people" to "smart people are really much more gullible and dumb than I could have even imagined".

I seriously thought some people were just screwing with me when they repeated some outrageous BS propaganda of the government. But no, nobody is sarcastic here at all - they are deadly serious. Most people are on autopilot about everything. My business partner is an MIT grad, and he's a zombie.

Part of our fucking job is skepticism, but 99.9% of engineers apply it ONLY to their job. I'm sure my business partner suspects I'm a terrorist, because the intelligence agencies are saying "white nationalist Trump supporters are terrorists". I live among totally indoctrinated, crazy people.

I'm from a small tiny town, and the average person there is much MUCH more skeptical. They are blue collar workers mostly. They have a better bullshit detector than almost anybody here. It's weird.
28   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 19, 6:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Robert Sproul says
They are irritated and dismissive if you present them with an alternative fact or statistic.

I've discovered the average person doesn't have basic reasoning skills or logic. I think it's as simple as that. We don't watch TV but keep it on in the background, with local affiliates on. Almost 10-15% of footage I see when getting the kids ready or walking around is of people getting the jab. Same b-roll on multiple stations.

I'll never get any of these vaccines. Covid isn't dangerous. If it influences my travel, I will pay a doctor I trust $1-2K to forge a CDC card for me, hand me the vile and I'll photograph it. None of that shit is going into my body or anyone in my immediate family (kids).
29   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 7:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
I have gone from thinking "I work with a lot of smart people" to "smart people are really much more gullible and dumb than I could have even imagined".


Charlie Munger Quote: “Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome.”

There are massive financial incentives for the corrupt incompetents at the CDC, NIH, and FDA to kill people with a barely tested injection, so many people will be killed with it.
30   WineHorror1   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 7:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Shaman says
“Where do you get your news?”

The guy at the grocery store who I've been friendly with for 5-6 years asked me this. I told him information is everywhere and how can he be so sure he is right. He actually made fun of people who get their news from the internet and/or the TV. Is there another source I'm unaware of?
31   WineHorror1   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 7:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
I just remind them that they aren't vaccinated against covid either.

OMG, best one yet. Haha
32   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 7:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Charlie Munger Quote: “Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome.”

There are massive financial incentives for the corrupt incompetents at the CDC, NIH, and FDA to kill people with a barely tested injection, so many people will be killed with it.


It is true that there is financial incentive to control the narrative and sell the clot shots. But it seems there is even more incentive to implement totalitarian measures so money is only part of the motivation. The ultimate goal is total control of the population from what they know, to what they eat and where they live, what they are allowed to think and who they are allowed to associate with. This is 1984.
33   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 8:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

PeopleUnited says
Patrick says
Charlie Munger Quote: “Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome.”

There are massive financial incentives for the corrupt incompetents at the CDC, NIH, and FDA to kill people with a barely tested injection, so many people will be killed with it.


It is true that there is financial incentive to control the narrative and sell the clot shots. But it seems there is even more incentive to implement totalitarian measures so money is only part of the motivation. The ultimate goal is total control of the population from what they know, to what they eat and where they live, what they are allowed to think and who they are allowed to associate with. This is 1984.


Right - if this was just about making money for a vaccine that appears to be entirely ineffective at best, and detrimental at worse - they would be marketing saline solutions with some random antigens in it as "vaccines". They would be entirely safe.

Something else is going on.
34   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 8:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
Tenpoundbass says
I just remind them that they aren't vaccinated against covid either.

OMG, best one yet. Haha


Lol, I have to remember this.
35   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 19, 8:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Robert Sproul says
The Zombies are all around me and they frankly freak me the fuck out. You can no longer trust them on anything.

Word!
36   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 9:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Holy shit, this guy has dire predictions:


original link
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37   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 9:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Holy shit, this guy has dire predictions:


original link
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I’ll look up this guy in 4 years and laugh at how wrong he is… but there should be consequences for spewing garbage like this and repercussions if in 4 years he is wrong. Saying jab over and over makes him sound moronic and stupid also.
38   clambo   ignore (5)   2021 Aug 19, 9:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I just got an email from Santa Cruz.
As of Saturday, it’s an “order” that masks be worn indoors at any and all establishments.
All people must wear the mask, regardless of whether he was vaccinated or not.
The Twilight Zone episode is not yet over in California evidently.
39   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 20, 1:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BoomAndBustCycle says
Patrick says
Holy shit, this guy has dire predictions:


original link


I’ll look up this guy in 4 years and laugh at how wrong he is… but there should be consequences for spewing garbage like this and repercussions if in 4 years he is wrong. Saying jab over and over makes him sound moronic and stupid also.


Please, it's important to check predictions and outcomes.

Do you remember Dawit Kelete? How about Kyle Rittenhouse? Do you remember these names? What are their outcomes - they were once famous.

Frauds / liars / erroneous people should be exposed but they can only be identified with time, and only after that time can you realize they were frauds, liars, or erroneous people. The best of us make errors.
40   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 20, 2:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

clambo says
I just got an email from Santa Cruz.
As of Saturday, it’s an “order” that masks be worn indoors at any and all establishments.
All people must wear the mask, regardless of whether he was vaccinated or not.
The Twilight Zone episode is not yet over in California evidently.

Proper torture requires that you 'ease off' from time to time to give the victim false hope, before you relentlessly continue the torture. This is demoralization.

It's clear that people are tired of the masks, but as long as the Soros et alia bribery bucks keep flowing into the system, the mercenary torture will continue. The good news is, when the money stop, the shallow sods also stop their shit because they are greedy, lazy, crazy, incompetent and generally worthless POS. That's why nobody cares if they get mopped up with bullets in the useful idiot purges.

The fake 'standards' that were set up to begin with to mandate masks HAVE NOT BEEN MET. There is virtually no Covid or Fake Covid in Santa Cruz County. The health mafiosa claims the mask mandates are coming from public demand from a few paid off Kommie agitator groups.

You also hear the gross stupidity of so called fully vaccinated people claiming that unvaccinated people are dangerous to them. Why the fuck did they get vaccinated if the vaccine does not protect them from anything? They don't even seem to think of such gross dislocation of logic because they are so brainwashed.

I'm beginning to think in addition to sheer stupidity and inability to reason, that those graphene nanobot thingies might actually be sending these fools subliminal messaging 24/24 and brainwashing them even more through 5G, like the conspiracy theorists claim.
41   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 Aug 20, 6:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
Tenpoundbass says
I just remind them that they aren't vaccinated against covid either.

OMG, best one yet. Haha


We really do need to stop letting these people lecture us about getting the Vax, when they clearly aren't. Nothing about the jab, that is acting anything like a Vaccination.
A Vaccination, actually prevents people from getting the disease. Like the Measles, Polio and some others. We need to put it back at them, and make THEM feel like the first rate Morons that they are. They have no idea, what in the hell they put in their body, what it will do them, not in the short term, not in the long haul. They blindly had that shit put in their body, and are no safer than those of us that have not. And they want to lecture us about safety?


We might be able to break their brainwashed spell, if we make them feel like a big enough fool.... Nope I doubt it, they will probably just double down, but it's worth a shot!
42   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 20, 6:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Find a bunch of products that have killed people approved by the FDA and then mention that none of the vaccines (I believe to date) have FULL approval by the FDA. Not emergency approval. Our own government agency doesn't approve it and even they're half assed with with full approval. They actively prevented treatment that worked for AIDS just because it wasn't approved by their agency.

Tell them to watch Dallas Buyers Club if they haven't. Fauci is the guy that fucked up AIDS and likely actively participated in preventing treatment because it wasn't FDA approved. Liberal/left Hollywood has admitted a massive fuck up by the FDA, government AND Fauci was involved with it somewhat by making a movie about it.

I was too young to remember AIDS being a massive issue, but do people not read about the past? There's an actual highly acclaimed movie from 2013 that will explain why you cannot trust your government for health decisions. You don't even have to read. Hence why I take nothing but vitamins and basic supplements. Big Pharma and medical field is a legalized cartel. 100%.
43   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 Aug 20, 6:45am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I was too young to remember AIDS being a massive issue, but do people not read about the past?


I turned about 16 by time AIDS hit the news. It was a disease that was originally reported as only afflicting the Deviants like intravenous drug users, and pernicious Asshole Fuckers. I've since read in stories about Facui, he really loathed the Media and America for reporting it as a disease that was primarily affecting the gay community. He loathed us all as Homophobes, and was more worried about that, than finding an actual cure.

He said nothing while the medical community serviced Gay Aids patients and took their blood in blood drives, and Dentist worked on their teeth, then used those same dental tools on the next patients. That evil bastard allowed Aids to jump from the druggy fudge packers to the heterosexual population intentionally.

He should have been tried and executed for his crimes.

That's another thing to tell those Maskholes, and Mad Vaxers, they are touting literally Hitler's Doctor. I wouldn't listen to a damn thing he says.
44   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 20, 7:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
That's another thing to tell those Maskholes, and Mad Vaxers, they are touting literally Hitler's Doctor. I wouldn't listen to a damn thing he says.

I agree. But people that are pushing vaccines are taking advice from this guy. Not just government, friends and neighbors are. Fauci is a monster. The mask thing is what it is, I don't wear one, but the vaccine is potentially dangerous. None of us have a fucking clue. It's only been a year of testing. Our government turned a blind eye to treatment for AIDS while people died. I have no faith they've gotten this emergency "approval" correct.

Wife is pushing again to get herself the vaccine. I can't control her, but tell her don't do it. The brainwashing is still at all time highs. I've saved about a dozen links so far. One was posted here about the Carnival Cruise line where 99% of everyone was vaccinated, yet they had an outbreak as bad as pre-vax when they were still cruising. What was the point of all those people getting vaccinated? The vaccines unequivocally don't work. So they shift it to lessening symptoms. Bull shit.
45   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 20, 2:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
Please, it's important to check predictions and outcomes.


Right, I can't believe that all of that will happen.
46   WineHorror1   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 20, 5:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Tell them to watch Dallas Buyers Club if they haven't. Fauci is the guy that fucked up AIDS and likely actively participated in preventing treatment because it wasn't FDA approved. Liberal/left Hollywood has admitted a massive fuck up by the FDA, government AND Fauci was involved with it somewhat by making a movie about it.

This is an excellent point. And a great movie.
47   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 21, 1:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
I'm beginning to think in addition to sheer stupidity and inability to reason, that those graphene nanobot thingies might actually be sending these fools subliminal messaging 24/24 and brainwashing them even more through 5G, like the conspiracy theorists claim.



As an EE that has worked around RF transmitters for over 1/2 my life, this is false.

Nanotechnology is just BS - there's no way to power them. We are decades, maybe centuries away from making meaningful nanotech - and when we do, it's likely to be biological, not silicon based.

Our bodies are shields against high frequency. Put a drumstick in a microwave and you don't heat it from the inside, you heat the outside, and the heat travels through Brownian motion. To send a signal to a microscopic machine in a human body is impossible. The human body would just absorb it as heat, and the microscopic machine to receive such a signal would have to be very close to the skin because antenna lengths have to be at least 1/2 the wavelength.

5G might possibly be harmful, but there's no threat from nanomachines. I don't think 5G is any more harmful than 4G or 3G or 2G.
48   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 21, 1:25am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
Shaman says
“Where do you get your news?”

The guy at the grocery store who I've been friendly with for 5-6 years asked me this. I told him information is everywhere and how can he be so sure he is right. He actually made fun of people who get their news from the internet and/or the TV. Is there another source I'm unaware of?


@WineHorror1 - ask him.

You know what the best sources of information I ever had? People in other nations. Just common people, who told me what was told to them. I cannot identify what is true, I can only identify what is false. From that, I can create what is likely to be true, but I can never be certain.

I've talked to people from Iran, Egypt, Ukraine, Russia, even Libya - or at least they claimed to be from those places. It's enormously valuable to me to see a different perspective. In the "Balkan states" I've talked to people that saw the fall of communism and the promise of "democracy" to see them only realize it's just a new form of corruption. No country is clean, and nobody is free from state propaganda. You have to recognize a problem before you have any hope of fixing it.

I think the best hope for a democratic republic might actually be Russia. How ironic is that? I think the US is on the verge of it. We may seem to be pathetic assholes that can easily be bought off, and largely we are, but we have a limit of bullshit which is far shorter than the limit of other nations. We're a resilient people, this is what made this nation.
49   Rin   ignore (9)   2021 Aug 21, 10:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says

I don't understand your tuberculosis answer. It doesn't seem to refute the question


The Covid vax codes for yesteryear's virus and thus, provides no protection to the lungs.

The TB shot first, protects the lung from TB. As a consequence, the lung's general immune response of T and B cells are activated and are now ready for the next 'big thing' to attack the lungs, ala Covid.

This is similar to the prior century's immune globin prophylaxis for Hepatitis A vs the vaccine for the same illness.

What it is .... (https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/immunoglobulin-therapy)

Comparison study with the Hepatitis A vaccine shot ...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17947390/

Both provided protection against illness and thus, the Hep-A vaccine was not necessary if a person gets an immune globin shot.

And unlike Covid, the Hepatitis vaccine is a true vaccine, not just a spike protein generator.
50   Rin   ignore (9)   2021 Aug 21, 4:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says

Nanotechnology is just BS - there's no way to power them. We are decades, maybe centuries away from making meaningful nanotech - and when we do, it's likely to be biological, not silicon based.


The problem with the tin toil hat crew on graphene oxide is that it's a carbon-carbon sheet which is of interest to both the electronic and biomedical industries.

So just because it's a joint area of interest, doesn't make 'em the same.

In the case of biomed, it's for targeted drug delivery but with minimal safety studies and for electronics & tech, further miniaturization of components.
51   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Aug 25, 9:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
Just knock their fucking teeth out of their head. That's the biggest problem in America too many fucking Liberals with a full set of teeth.

Yes, then after their teeth are gone, make them give you a gum job. If it looks like they enjoy giving the gum job, kick their ass for being a homo.
53   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Aug 25, 9:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I will pay a doctor I trust $1-2K to forge a CDC card for me

Well, the doctors are already used to taking bribes from Pfizer anyway. Also, ever notice that pharma sales reps are rarely qualified in the field, but are chosen for attractiveness instead?

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