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Another crack in the narrative? First corporate media article that does not just scream GET JABBED! over and over


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2021 Aug 21, 11:45pm   372 views  4 comments

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-can-t-keep-up-with-virus-creating-worry-for-vaccinated


The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers
By Kristen V Brown and Rebecca Torrence
August 21, 2021, 2:00 AM PDT Updated on August 21, 2021, 8:30 AM PDT
Anecdotes signal surprising number of infections in vaccinated
Officials must formulate plans despite a dearth of hard data

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

There’s a dearth of scientific studies with concrete answers, leaving public policy makers and corporate executives to formulate plans based on fragmented information. While some are renewing mask mandates or delaying office reopenings, others cite the lack of clarity to justify staying the course. It can all feel like a mess.

“We have to be humble about what we do know and what we don’t know,” said Tom Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the head of the nonprofit Resolve to Save Lives. “There are a few things we can say definitively. One is that this is a hard question to address.”

Absent clear public health messaging, vaccinated people are left confused about how to protect themselves. Just how vulnerable they are is a key variable not just for public health officials trying to figure out, say, when booster shots might be needed, but also to inform decisions about whether to roll back reopenings amid a new wave of the virus. On a smaller scale, the unknowns have left music lovers unsure if it’s OK to see a concert and prompted a fresh round of hang-wringing among parents pondering what school is going to look like.

In lieu of answers, what has emerged is a host of case studies providing somewhat different pictures of breakthrough infections. Variables including when the surveys were conducted, whether the delta variant was present, how much of the population was vaccinated and even what the weather was like at the time make it hard to compare results and suss out patterns. It’s difficult to know which data might ultimately carry more heft.

“It’s quite clear that we have more breakthroughs now,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco. “We all know someone who has had one. But we don’t have great clinical data.”

Provincetown Has Covid-19 Surge

Provincetown officials have issued a new mask-wearing advisory for indoors regardless of vaccination status. Photographer: Barry Chin/The Boston Globe via Getty Images
One of the best known outbreaks among vaccinated people occurred in the small beach town of Provincetown, Massachusetts, as thousands of vaccinated and unvaccinated alike gathered on dance floors and at house parties over the Fourth of July weekend to celebrate the holiday -- and what seemed like a turning point in the pandemic. About three-fourths of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people.

Authors of a CDC case study said this might mean that they were just as likely to transmit Covid-19 as the unvaccinated. Even so, they cautioned, as more people are vaccinated, it’s natural that they would also account for a larger share of Covid-19 infections and this one study was not sufficient to draw any conclusions. The incident prompted the CDC to reverse a recommendation it had issued just a few weeks earlier and once again urge the vaccinated to mask up in certain settings.

Still, the particular details of that cluster of cases may have made that outbreak especially bad, according to Gandhi.

“The rate of mild symptomatic outbreaks in this population was higher because of a lot of indoor activity (including intimacy), rain that weekend, not much outside time and mixture of people with different vaccination status,” she said in an email.

A newly released, far larger CDC case study of infections in New York state, meanwhile, found that the number of breakthrough infections has steadily ticked up since May, accounting for almost 4% of cases by mid-July. Those researchers cautioned that factors such as easing public health restrictions and the rise of the highly contagious delta variant might impact the results.

Yet another CDC case study, in Colorado, found that the breakthrough infection rate in one county, Mesa, was significantly higher than the rest of the state, at 7% versus about 5%. The report suggested it was perhaps because the delta variant was circulating more widely there, but also noted the ages of patients in Mesa and the lower vaccination rate may have played a role.

Research out of Israel seems to back the idea that protection from severe disease wanes in the months after inoculation, and more recently, that breakthrough cases may eventually lead to an uptick in hospitalizations. The information is preliminary and severe breakthrough cases are still rare, but it bolsters the case that some people will need booster shots in coming months. ...

(And some GET THE JAB! bullshit here..)

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1   mell   2021 Sep 1, 9:48am  

We will not fucking relent. I will tell every MD shoving this shit down our faces to piss off and remind him of his hippocratic oath and that history will not look kindly upon them. It's gotten to the point where they start telling parents care and access to their babies may be restricted or "very inconvenient" if they refuse the clot shot. But the dam is slowly breaking. No more of this shit.
2   Patrick   2021 Sep 3, 11:46pm  

Another crack in the narrative of JAB EVERYONE OVER AND OVER AND OVER:

https://sports.yahoo.com/cdc-advisors-raise-concerns-over-165543690.html

CDC advisors raise concerns about 'over-vaccination' and ask the White House for more data to show boosters are needed


How long until this outbreak of sanity is crushed by agents of Pfizer working at the FDA?

Can't let public health get in the way of maximum profits you know.
3   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 4, 9:52am  

Soon we'll get into the Denial Phase, where people and institutions will deny they ever said get Vaxed no matter what and if you don't you're a stupid Conspiracy Theorist that's killing people through ignorance.

"We NEVER wanted mandatory vaccinations. That the CDC/FDA/DeBlasio/Newsome wanted mandatory vaccines is bogus, a Right Wing Conspiracy Theory"

Everyone from Teachers Union to Late Nite (un)Funny Men will be claiming to have been vaccine hesitant

Then the Flip phase, where they'll try to convince the public that the vax pushers were actually the opposite of those pushing it.
4   Patrick   2021 Sep 4, 10:02am  

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/uk-vaccines-advisory-body-not-recommending-ccp-virus-vaccines-to-healthy-children-under-16_3980285.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


UK Vaccines Advisory Body Not Recommending CCP Virus Vaccines to Healthy Children Under 16
BY LILY ZHOU September 3, 2021

The UK government’s advisory body on vaccination has decided not to recommend universal CCP virus vaccination for 12–15-year-olds, contrary to expectations.


What? And slow down the flood of taxpayer money to Pfizer and Modera just to save the lives of worthless eater children from death by vaxx jab? How dare they!

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