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Updated: FDA did NOT approve the existing Pfizer jab, only one that does not exist yet


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2021 Aug 23, 10:22am   1,802 views  91 comments

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https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/


The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA’s regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency’s cynicism.



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1   Tenpoundbass   2021 Aug 23, 10:34am  

They did no approve the Vaccine, they only handed Joe Biden an optical win to distract from his Disastrous foreign policy.

Which if you think about it, is an even scarier reason to not get the jab.
2   GNL   2021 Aug 23, 10:36am  

Tenpoundbass says
They did no approve the Vaccine, they only handed Joe Biden an optical win to distract from his Disastrous foreign policy.

Which if you think about it, is an even scarier reason to not get the jab.

What do you mean they did not approve it?
3   Onvacation   2021 Aug 23, 10:41am  

Patrick says
There is no control group

Yes, there is.

I have a lot of friends and family in the test group. Many joined to travel or "get back to normal". Some took the jab out of fear of the "deadly" disease.

I am afraid for these people. The propaganda makes them call my evidence "conspiracy theory" even if it is data from the CDC.

As part of the control group I am prepared to be fired (not going to quit) and stay home waiting for the coming flu season to confirm, or not, the speculation that the experimental biologic agent is "safe and effective".
4   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2021 Aug 23, 10:51am  

Former FDA head joins Blackstone
Blackstone has hired Mark McClellan as a senior adviser. He will focus on the New York-based firm's growth and life sciences units. McClellan previously served as the commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration, and as an administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.
https://pitchbook.com/newsletter/former-fda-head-joins-blackstone

Former FDA head Stephen Hahn joins board of Philly therapeutics company
https://www.phillyvoice.com/stephen-hahn-fda-blackfynn-philadelphia/

REVOLVING DOOR CONTINUES TO TURN AS FORMER FDA HEAD JOINS PFIZER
Last week, former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb took on a new position – on the board of pharmaceutical giant Pfizer.

Mr. Gottlieb will now profit from a company that he was responsible for regulating less than 3 months prior. The move has been widely criticized, and for good reason. The revolving door between government regulators and the pharmaceutical industry has completely eroded the public’s faith in the FDA.
https://thegoodlylawfulsociety.org/revolving-door-continues-to-turn-as-former-fda-head-joins-pfizer/

5   Tenpoundbass   2021 Aug 23, 1:47pm  

WineHorror1 says
What do you mean they did not approve it?


What I mean is, I bet if you did a FOIA request on the communications from the Whitehouse, and the paper work on FDA approval process. I bet you'll find more action on the WH communications, and not so much glowing reports about the success of the vaccine, to warrant this sudden Approval.
6   Ceffer   2021 Aug 23, 1:56pm  

So, FDA officially joins the pantheon of Covid Corruption and Nuremberg candidates. Credibility across the board is dead.
7   Onvacation   2021 Aug 23, 2:07pm  

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/reactogenicity.html
"No serious adverse events were considered by FDA as possibly related to vaccine."
8   Ceffer   2021 Aug 23, 2:09pm  

It may be a MSM fake news blitz: it could just be that FDA extended EUA, it did not give any final approval to vaccine. It is still emergency use.
Fake news says FDA approval to get more mandates in place?

https://t.me/The_Library_II/50976

10   Booger   2021 Aug 23, 3:00pm  

What took them so long?

Were you really not expecting them to rubber stamp an approval?
11   Blue   2021 Aug 23, 3:21pm  

Booger says
What took them so long?

Were you really not expecting them to rubber stamp an approval?


To buy enough distraction while bring a quarter of Afghanistan.
13   Rin   2021 Aug 23, 4:28pm  

Ceffer says


And guess what's the best, natural zinc ionsphore and a whole lot more? ... Quercetin Phytosome!

The Dietary Supplement Act of 1994 protects it from being removed from society, via the crooks at the FDA/CDC/NIH/WHO (not related to Roger Daltrey/Pete Townsend)
14   Patrick   2021 Aug 23, 5:40pm  

I think that millions have to die from the jab before the TDS crowd turns on Fauci.

Maybe not even then.
15   mell   2021 Aug 23, 5:59pm  

Patrick says
I think that millions have to die from the jab before the TDS crowd turns on Fauci.

Maybe not even then.


Dark tinfoil thoughts may lead you wondering whether Trump was, voluntarily or involuntarily, a ruse. Even the retarded leftoids would have never gone that far and exposed themselves to so much danger and inconvenience and loss of livelihood if not for the house of cards of TDS uniting them, now more brittle than ever, but still standing.
16   RC2006   2021 Aug 23, 6:07pm  

My wife is starting to push for my two older kids to get in. So far I've staved it off. She said the pediatric ward is overfilled at work. But then they've also have shortage from people quitting to avoid shot.
17   Patrick   2021 Aug 23, 6:10pm  

@RC2006 does she know that kids are more likely to die in the car ride to school than from Fauci Flu?

You could point out that the vaxx makes them more likely to die, not less.

And you could point out all the myocarditis cases in the young.
18   Patrick   2021 Aug 23, 6:16pm  


Alexandros Marinos
@alexandrosM
2h
Things I'm confused about
- Why mandates if herd immunity isn't possible
- What happens 8 months after boosters
- What's the plan for the next variant
- Why twitter is the best place for news
- Why we're messing with vaccine injury liability if the vaccines are safe and effective
10:47 PM · Aug 23, 2021


https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1429938349079359497#m

The last one is the most important.

The FDA claims the jab is "safe".

So then why do the makers need unusual and absolute exemption from all liability for them?
19   Patrick   2021 Aug 23, 6:18pm  


DeHorrible
@DeHorrible
2h
Replying to @alexandrosM
to end this madness effectively once and for all, people need to put real pressure on DC to end waivers & protection granted to pharmaceuticals, then hit those criminals organizations called companies with huge class action suit. send them to bankruptcy pit. share if you agree.
20   Patrick   2021 Aug 23, 6:19pm  


5tr4n3r
@5tr4n3r
2h
Replying to @alexandrosM
- Why nobody is talking about the social cost of making dire enemies of a non trivial fraction of the population who will categorically refuse the mandates
21   GNL   2021 Aug 23, 6:19pm  

RC2006 says
My wife is starting to push for my two older kids to get in. So far I've staved it off. She said the pediatric ward is overfilled at work. But then they've also have shortage from people quitting to avoid shot.

Is it true that kids are more likely to die from the flu?
22   mell   2021 Aug 23, 6:20pm  

RC2006 says
My wife is starting to push for my two older kids to get in. So far I've staved it off. She said the pediatric ward is overfilled at work. But then they've also have shortage from people quitting to avoid shot.


The CDCs own data shows 0.5-2.3 out of 100000 kids with covid get hospitalized. And that isn't the ICU yet, the vast majority of those get released without reaching the ICU. Compare that to 1 out of 9 serious adverse effects in kids 12-15 for the Pfizer agent
25   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 24, 7:26am  

https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/08/fda-approves-pfizer-jab-after-only-confirming-it-protects-you-from-covid-19-for-7-days

FDA approves Pfizer Jab after only confirming it protects you from COVID-19 for 7 days
26   Shaman   2021 Aug 24, 7:41am  

RC2006 says
My wife is starting to push for my two older kids to get in. So far I've staved it off. She said the pediatric ward is overfilled at work. But then they've also have shortage from people quitting to avoid shot.


Don’t let her do it. Sit your kids down and explain, show videos of people who got fucked up by the jab. Show videos of KIDS who are cripples for life from the jab. And talk about reproduction issues we don’t know about. They could be sterilizing themselves and with the girls it’s a fair probability that they are. Then tell them not to get it under ANY circumstances. If your wife objects tell her there’s the fucking door.
27   GNL   2021 Aug 24, 8:37am  

Shaman says
If your wife objects tell her there’s the fucking door.

That's Alpha man stuff right there. Boo yah
28   WookieMan   2021 Aug 24, 8:54am  

Yeah, I'm not on board with my kids getting it at all. Wife isn't either, though she's thinking about it for herself. I can't force her but have been gathering links and all sorts of info to sway her from getting it. Her work doesn't require it and won't. So what's the point at 38? Not fat. And no other ailments like lupus or something.

Every human that has 20 years to live WILL get covid. People are getting Covid WITH a vaccine. This is a god damn flu. Gotta stop the hype. I'm concerned about what is happening at the higher levels and what is trying to be hidden at this point.
29   mell   2021 Aug 24, 9:00am  

WookieMan says
Yeah, I'm not on board with my kids getting it at all. Wife isn't either, though she's thinking about it for herself. I can't force her but have been gathering links and all sorts of info to sway her from getting it. Her work doesn't require it and won't. So what's the point at 38? Not fat. And no other ailments like lupus or something.

Every human that has 20 years to live WILL get covid. People are getting Covid WITH a vaccine. This is a god damn flu. Gotta stop the hype. I'm concerned about what is happening at the higher levels and what is trying to be hidden at this point.


My wife is the same age and we just had a newborn. So it was paramount NOT to take the clot shot during pregnancy and continuing to REFUSE it during breastfeeding and for the foreseeable future. They were pushing it hard, even when it it was time for delivery, but we're both on the same page. I'm worried about my other son who is 10, once he reaches 12 or once the fraudulent pharma-fauxci-cdc-xiden mafia connection lowers the age, as I only have partial custody. There is at east a good chance covid is mostly tamed (not fully but endemic like the flu) by 2022 and regarded as a regular flu by then. It takes a lot for them to keep up the fear porn hype and I have been busy sending out stats to parents and friends and to my broader network.
30   richwicks   2021 Aug 24, 9:03am  

RC2006 says
My wife is starting to push for my two older kids to get in. So far I've staved it off. She said the pediatric ward is overfilled at work. But then they've also have shortage from people quitting to avoid shot.


The chances of your children dying from this disease are extremely minimal, and the vaccines do not seem to have efficacy.

I am reluctant to give advice, because if your kid gets sars-cov2-19 and the reason you didn't get your kid vaccinated is because of my advice, you have every right to track me down, and beat me to death. Still, I'm giving this advice. This vaccine seems to be all risk and no benefit.
31   mell   2021 Aug 24, 9:07am  

richwicks says
RC2006 says
My wife is starting to push for my two older kids to get in. So far I've staved it off. She said the pediatric ward is overfilled at work. But then they've also have shortage from people quitting to avoid shot.


The chances of your children dying from this disease are extremely minimal, and the vaccines do not seem to have efficacy.

I am reluctant to give advice, because if your kid gets sars-cov2-19 and the reason you didn't get vaccinated is because of my advice, you have every right to track me down, and beat me to death. Still, I'm giving this advice. This vaccine seems to be all risk and no benefit.


You don't have to give "advice" - just provide the data and let everyone else do the math: per cdc the chance of hospitalization for kids from covid is anywhere between 0.5 and 2.3 per 100K and per pfizer the chance of serious side effects from the agent in kids age 12-15 is 1 in 9. My math says the agent has a 1000 fold chance of maiming the kid compared to !covid!
32   Patrick   2021 Aug 24, 10:06am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/fda-approves-pfizer-vaccine-knocks-on-wood


U.S.—After an intense period of testing on 200 million guinea pigs throughout the U.S. and some very fancy lobster dinners with Pfizer executives, the Food and Drug Administration finally approved the Pfizer vaccine, and then knocked on some nearby wood just in case.

"I dunno, I guess we can just approve it now," said FDA researchers... Besides, can you imagine what would happen if we suddenly told millions of people who have already taken it that it was unsafe? Yikes! I guess we can just approve this puppy!"

"Hopefully nothing terrible will happen! Knock on wood! Haha!"

The FDA then got out the very official ceremonial rubber stamp that they only use on very special occasions, dipped it in official red ink, and then stamped the little paper that said "Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine" on the top of it to prove to the world that the vaccine was very very safe and there was nothing to worry about.

"With lady luck on our side, everything will be ok!" said the FDA Commissioner as everyone chuckled nervously. ...

The American people report feeling very relieved that the vaccine is approved and expressed the desire to wait until the other two vaccines are approved before they make a decision.
34   Patrick   2021 Aug 24, 10:16am  

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/550b0ac4e4b0c16cdea1b084/t/6124fdd27da16f3e2c51aecb/1629814226387/Key+points+to+consider+FDA+letters+and+press+release.pdf


FDA Pfizer authorization (Comirnaty): Key points to consider and discuss.
These points are an aggregate of many minds, including Dr. Robert Malone.
23 Aug 2021
General talking points
• Why mandates if herd immunity isn't possible?
• What happens 8 months after boosters?
• What's the plan for the next variant?
• Why we're messing with vaccine injury liability if the vaccines are safe and effective?
There are now TWO LEGALLY distinct (Pfizer vs. BionTech), but otherwise identical products,
based on two FDA letters, as well as a press release. The analysis of these FDA products
below is preliminary and subject to change.
Letter to Pfizer
https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download
• DOES NOT GIVE FULL APPROVAL
• Extends EUA to allow supply of current Pfizer under EUA because limited supply of
BioNTech version.
• “The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or
effectiveness. (page 2, Pfizer letter)
o here FDA quietly admits that the licensed Pfizer vaccine and the authorized
Pfizer vaccine are identical with regard to safety/efficacy, but they are "legally
distinct." That's code for one has manufacturer liability, while the other doesn't.
It is also code for "we don't want to impose a mandate on the EUA product cause
it is illegal, but we can probably get away with a mandate on the licensed
product."
o page 12 AA (Conditions with Respect to Use of Licensed Product). This tells you
that yes, we licensed the vaccine, but...there is a lot of the old vaccine out there,
actually "a significant amount" and this amount will be considered an EUA and
will continue to be used.
o Now, why would they do that? Why specify that identical versions of the
product will be legally different? Because they need the license to impose the
mandates. But they need the EUA to evade liability.
o Along with the license comes liability for the manufacturer. (While all EUA
products were given a liability shield.)
o Unfortunately, our federal governments would prefer us to be without
recourse if we are injured, rather than have Pfizer defend its product in court.
So, the feds want us to THINK the vaccine we are receiving is licensed, which will
make people submit because they think it can now be mandated, but instead we
are almost certain to receive the EUA vials instead, to save Pfizer's behind. Yes, a
stingy CICP injury program exists, but it has not paid out for a single COVID
vaccine injury yet.
• Warning about myocarditis and pericarditis
Letter to BioNTech (COMIRNATY): (signed by Mary Malarkey) – MARKET AUTHORIZES BLA
(APPROVAL)
https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download
• For “active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by
severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of
age and older.”
• Analysis of […] adverse events reported […] not be sufficient to assess known serious
risks of myocarditis and pericarditis and identify an unexpected serious risk of subclinical
myocarditis.
• 13 Post marketing studies required
o Pediatric (3 studies) < 6m to <15 y
o Myocarditis and pericarditis (6 studies), with UP TO 5 years follow up
o Pregnancy – teratology (1 study)
o Dose levels, VA, effectiveness in Kaiser system (3 studies)
• The FDA bypassed/disregarded the normal advisory committee and public comment
process for this license. See p2 “We did not refer your application to the Vaccines and
Related Biological Products Advisory Committee because our review of information
submitted in your BLA, including the clinical study design and trial results, did not raise
concerns or controversial issues that would have benefited from an advisory
committee discussion.”
35   Patrick   2021 Aug 24, 10:20am  

Patrick says
@RC2006 does she know that kids are more likely to die in the car ride to school than from Fauci Flu?

You could point out that the vaxx makes them more likely to die, not less.

And you could point out all the myocarditis cases in the young.


https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2021/jul/covid-19-risks-severe-illness-children-shown-be-very-low
37   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Aug 24, 3:45pm  

It’s not approved yet. It was some pr stunt.

Final approval in 2023 if gl they get more data.

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