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Thanks @Shaman

I wish I could figure out how to embed Odysee videos.

"You get more severe symptoms when you are vaccinated against one variant, and then it mutates, and then your body sees the other variant."

"We are mandating a vaccine which makes could actually make people more sick when they're exposed to the virus."

She's good.

Patrick says

Thanks @Shaman

I wish I could figure out how to embed Odysee videos.

Challenge accepted. Standby.

You might have to pull code from the page. Can you do that?

She’s taking about ADE… which as of yet is only proven to occur in viruses that cause Dengue Fever.

ADE is when a disease is made worse or more severe in a person who was already exposed to the virus through a previous infection or vaccination compared to people who were never exposed or vaccinated.

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) has not been identified as a concern related to SARS-CoV-2 infection or following COVID-19 vaccination. Here are reasons indicating why ADE will not be a concern:

First, most people have been infected with other coronaviruses in their lifetime, and ADE has not been identified as a result of these infections.
Second, in human studies, people previously infected with coronavirus were infected with different types of coronavirus, and they did not experience enhanced disease.
Third, experimental animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 did not develop enhanced disease when challenged, or infected, with the virus.
Finally, when people with COVID-19 received plasma containing SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, they did not experience enhanced disease.
For these reasons, ADE is not expected to be a concern for SARS-CoV-2 infections or vaccination.

richwicks says

You might have to pull code from the page. Can you do that?

@richwicks Do you mean grab the html from that url? No problem.

BoomAndBustCycle says

She’s taking about ADE… which as of yet is only proven to occur in viruses that cause Dengue Fever.

ADE is when a disease is made worse or more severe in a person who was already exposed to the virus through a previous infection or vaccination compared to people who were never exposed or vaccinated.

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) has not been identified as a concern related to SARS-CoV-2 infection or following COVID-19 vaccination. Here are reasons indicating why ADE will not be a concern:

First, most people have been infected with other coronaviruses in their lifetime, and ADE has not been identified as a result of these infections.

Second, in human studies, people previously infected with coronavirus were infected with different types of coronavirus, and they did not experience enhanced disease.
Third, experimental animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 did not develop enhanced disease when challenged, or infected, with the virus.
Finally, when peop...

Thank you for commenting. Why is it that so many people think ADE will be an issue?
Also, how can YOU be so sure? Has there ever been a vaccine like this? Has a vaccine ever been injected into the population worldwide in as shot a time span? Do any of those questions matter?

@Patrick

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You do NOT need the "original link" - you can get to there by clicking the video. The 3rd code I got from the embedded link that Odysee gave me. Finally, somebody other than youtube does this right.

You can't get the embed link just from the URL. You can find the code for embedding by clicking "share" than there is an icon "< >" where you can (usually) get an embed link.

Patrick says

richwicks says

You might have to pull code from the page. Can you do that?

@richwicks Do you mean grab the html from that url? No problem.

Grab and parse.

Anyhow, if you dig a little in the Odysee website, you can find a link that allows you to post code that embeds. It's a little clumsy though.

WineHorror1 says

Also, how can YOU be so sure? Has there ever been a vaccine like this? Has a vaccine ever been injected into the population worldwide in as shot a time span? Do any of those questions matter?

I’m not sure, but I also don’t believe a handful of random people with Phd after their names either. Especially when I can find 999 more with Phd after their names who will disagree and have a rebuttal for every argument made.

BoomAndBustCycle says

WineHorror1 says

Also, how can YOU be so sure? Has there ever been a vaccine like this? Has a vaccine ever been injected into the population worldwide in as shot a time span? Do any of those questions matter?

I’m not sure, but I also don’t believe a handful of random people with Phd after their names either. Especially when I can find 999 more with Phd after their names who will disagree and have a rebuttal for every argument made.

Gotcha. Is Dr Malone in top Dr when it comes to mRNA? Why the insane push of the vax?

BoomAndBustCycle says

WineHorror1 says

Also, how can YOU be so sure? Has there ever been a vaccine like this? Has a vaccine ever been injected into the population worldwide in as shot a time span? Do any of those questions matter?

I’m not sure, but I also don’t believe a handful of random people with Phd after their names either. Especially when I can find 999 more with Phd after their names who will disagree and have a rebuttal for every argument made.

Skepticism is extremely healthy. How far does your skepticism go, though?

Are you asking questions such as:

How would a hospital tell the difference between someone suffering ADE and a severe case of illness?

What does ADE look like?

Is there a test for ADE? Is it being run on every vaccinated person hospitalized?

IF ADE did occur, why do you believe anyone would tell you? Many PhDs also deny there are ANY side effects of the vaccine. The denial that it even causes death or heart problems is widespread too, even with the official death numbers being over 30,000. These are the very same PhDs that came out with guarantees of vaccine efficacy, and we all know how that turned out.

What is the area of expertise of all the PhDs we receive information from?
I had a friend who has a PhD in Linguistics run out the door to get the jab as soon as he could and he STILL wears two masks outside. Even within STEM, the specializations of topics are so vast that very few have true expertise on the subject matters at hand. I will listen to one molecular biologist before I listen to a hundred pediatricians on this topic.

Do those PhDs risk something for going against the narrative? We conclusively know that going against the narrative gets you cancelled, so are you factoring that into your skeptical view?

Personally, I do not know if ADE or a lesser version has been occurring, or will. Time will tell, however I don't know if assuming an outcome so early is very clever. The human system is larger and more complex than the animals they test on, so the time scale larger in relation.

BoomAndBustCycle says

She’s taking about ADE… which as of yet is only proven to occur in viruses that cause Dengue Fever.

That's factually wrong. ADE has been observed in animal Coronaviruses, HIV, and even the original SARS.

https://www.hkmj.org/abstracts/v22n3%20Suppl%204/25.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6478436/?report=reader

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22311359/

Frankly, you should do your research before you speak on important matters of life and death such as this.

She packs a lot in. Would have a appreciated the "Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but I for one am not going to stand here and listen to you enslave the United States of America. Gentlemen!" finish.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Third, experimental animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 did not develop enhanced disease when challenged, or infected, with the virus.

I have not seen the animal study reports for the vax.

Link or you're bullshitting.

The fact is the vax is an experimental biologic agent that is going through massive human tests. We are less than a year out and the safety and efficacy is very doubtful at this point. It has already killed thousands if not hundreds of thousands and does not protect against infection any better than catching the possibly man made disease

The government "scientists" have been wrong so far. This upcoming flu season will tell us a lot.

And they lie!

The truth seems very much to be a crap shoot.

Update on my 83 year old parents who tested positive for Covid:
They are both in the hospital. Dad is listed as "Failure to Thrive." Mom is on and off CO2. Neither of them can stay hydrated. Dad cannot keep liquids down. So far, I do not think the hospital has an answer for Covid at all. My thoughts are, they should have been taking all the recommended vitamins (don't know of they did. They live with my sister and she is doing all the heavy lifting. Her husband has been out of work for over a year and she has 3 boys who all still live at home so I can't be sure she made mom and dad keep up with their meds). Lots of stress. I think mom and dad should have been on HCQ as a prophylaxis also. We should have had ivermectin pills as a precaution a long time ago. Mom and dad probably should have just realized that it was better for them to stay home, not just for Covid but, hell even the flu could knock them out of life. It is what it is.

1 brother is convinced mom and dad should have taken the jab. But I think it's a crap shoot...pick your poison. All in all, I think they should have accepted the monoclonal antibody infusion. But hell, I never even heard about it until it was too late.

Damn that sucks, I'd thought they were pulling out of it. Sorry to hear that.

I’m sorry man. Covid is real and a threat to the elderly, but largely preventable as youve implied. Our medical industry let us down.

BoomAndBustCycle says

She’s taking about ADE… which as of yet is only proven to occur in viruses that cause Dengue Fever.

THE PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPAL;
The Precautionary Principle in its simplest form states: "When an activity raises threats of harm to human health or the environment, precautionary measures should be taken even if some cause-and-effect relationships are not fully established scientifically".

Get them some horse paste ASAP!

So sorry to hear that! Also vomiting and nausea are fairly rare In respiratory viruses. The hospital is 100% positive the inability to keep liquids is a covid symptom? What about more IVs?

I just had a conversation with a 73 year old realtor. She told me her son-in-law works for a contractor for Moderna as a scientist. He said he won't take the jab for at least 5 years even if he gets fired.

mell says

So sorry to hear that! Also vomiting and nausea are fairly rare In respiratory viruses. The hospital is 100% positive the inability to keep liquids is a covid symptom? What about more IVs?

They have determined she has bacterial pneumonia. Yes, she's on an IV. My sister is convinced the hospital is simply letting them die.

WineHorror1 says

mell says

So sorry to hear that! Also vomiting and nausea are fairly rare In respiratory viruses. The hospital is 100% positive the inability to keep liquids is a covid symptom? What about more IVs?

They have determined she has bacterial pneumonia. Yes, she's on an IV. My sister is convinced the hospital is simply letting them die.

So the positive covid test may have nothing to do with it. Bacterial infections are a far greater threat, esp. for the very young and very old, than viruses. They could call it a covid complication, but it may be totally unrelated. If it's bacterial, is she receiving antibiotics?

I think this is why the HCQ + Azithromycin combination works. First one for the virus, second one for the bacterial pneumonia.

mell says

If it's bacterial, is she receiving antibiotics?

Yes, in the IV. I went to see her a bit ago. They almost didn't let me in. I got 5 minutes with her because they were getting ready to pump her lungs to get rid of fluid.

I'm updating my personal family story as documenting what people might or might not do differently if they find themselves in the same situation.

Patrick says

I think this is why the HCQ + Azithromycin combination works. First one for the virus, second one for the bacterial pneumonia.

Unfortunately they were never put on HCQ. I had all the other vitamins (Quercetin etc) except HCQ. My sister, as a last ditch effort, is going to see her and will be applying the topical ivermectin.

I didn't know there was a topical form of ivermectin.

I hope it helps.

Patrick says

I didn't know there was a topical form of ivermectin.

I hope it helps.

My mom has been on palliative care for the last 3 years. In all seriousness, the yearly flu could have been just as disastrous.

I saw my own mom and dad go down together over a period of 5 years (brain tumor, leukemia).

It was very hard. I did what I could, and I was there at the end with both of them.

Patrick says

I saw my own mom and dad go down together over a period of 5 years (brain tumor, leukemia).

It was very hard. I did what I could, and I was there at the end with both of them.

Yes, and you feel powerless to help the beloved parents. I had the same feeling when my dad died in the hospital the day we thought he would be coming home. Now imagine those who will see their loved ones die solely because some bought off or virtue signaling politico, college president, or employer forced those under them to take the jab.