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They have over 5.6 Billion shares outstanding, so a $5 increase in stock price increases the market cap by almost 30 Billion. The price increase sounds about right.

mell says

They have over 5.6 Billion shares outstanding, so a $5 increase in stock price increases the market cap by almost 30 Billion. The price increase sounds about right.

Keep an eye on insider/BOD trading as well. Guys like Fauci also don't have to report stock purchases and sales as they're appointed and not elected.

B&BC, you're naive to think there isn't shady shit going down. Data doesn't lie. These vaccines don't work and appear to be making the situation worse. Masks scientifically haven't worked and clearly don't work at all. Not really a discussion to be had.

Remember dividends as well. Pfizer pays Fauci $10M through cash or stock, he doesn't have to disclose it. He gets 3.35% dividend at current timing. He could be printing $300k a year via that and collecting his salary. He's pushing $1M a year. Pfizer probably spends $5-10M per month on advertising easily. Fauci is bought and paid for. The guy really never even practiced medicine.

You don't understand the game. Talk to me when you've done tens of millions in sales with the government.

Maybe being fined $2.6 billion had something to do with share prices:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

Or this ~$124 million fine for ripping off Britain's NHS:
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pfizer-charged-unfairly-high-prices-for-epilepsy-drug-uk-regulator-says-2021-08-05

Pfizer has a long history of corruption. With the $billions at stake with the jabs, you can bet Pfizer is exercising its vast experience in bribing doctors, regulatory agencies and politicians. To Pfizer, fines are just a business expense.

Just seems to me there’s a lot easier ways to be a millionaire than to kill people with “the jab”. I’m approaching millionaire status investing in Apple and FB alone and I’m a nobody. Call me naive, but seems to be plenty easier ways to make a buck than by being a mass murderer. Then you can die without regret. Cause let’s face it… all these old guys are a few years from death anyway.

mell says

They have over 5.6 Billion shares outstanding, so a $5 increase in stock price increases the market cap by almost 30 Billion. The price increase sounds about right.

A blind folded monkey throwing at a stock chart on a dart board could have made more money than a PFE investor in the last 20 years….

BoomAndBustCycle says

Just seems to me there’s a lot easier ways to be a millionaire than to kill people with “the jab”. I’m approaching millionaire status investing in Apple and FB alone and I’m a nobody. Call me naive, but seems to be plenty easier ways to make a buck than by being a mass murderer. Then you can die without regret. Cause let’s face it… all these old guys are a few years from death anyway.

Fauci for sure is a yearly millionaire. You're seeking to just get the status over a lifetime. Age doesn't matter to the greedy. $5M net worth is dick at this point. 50% of Americans have nothing in savings and can't handle emergency expenses. Their house is likely their biggest asset. Until you understand and experience government contracting, you don't understand. Fauci is bought and paid for and doesn't have to report.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Just seems to me there’s a lot easier ways to be a millionaire than to kill people with “the jab”. I’m approaching millionaire status investing in Apple and FB alone and I’m a nobody. Call me naive, but seems to be plenty easier ways to make a buck than by being a mass murderer. Then you can die without regret. Cause let’s face it… all these old guys are a few years from death anyway.

The cronies are invested in all vaccine stocks, Moderna etc. and thus are making out nicely. Pfizer is just one of them. Also the billions in bonuses for mgmt will be larger than individual shareholders gains. Also they have families and friends, so their reputation may tarnish some but their families are set for decades to come. Not bad for being a 'not liable' mass maimer.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

They have over 5.6 Billion shares outstanding, so a $5 increase in stock price increases the market cap by almost 30 Billion. The price increase sounds about right.

A blind folded monkey throwing at a stock chart on a dart board could have made more money than a PFE investor in the last 20 years….

True but the investments in question have been made recently. Also if you know for sure your crony stock will gain 10-20% in short order you can pot commit millions of dollars. Without the tail risk that's better than making a risky investment into a potential 100 bagger. Zero risk always trumps high risk/return.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Call me naive

How about disingenuous?

mell says

Also they have families and friends, so their reputation may tarnish some but their families are set for decades to come. Not bad for being a 'not liable' mass maimer.

They got Madoff and his family to pay up. I don’t think Madoff’s children acquired generational wealth. If people start dying off en masse… Fauci’s family would be sued into oblivion… and if that didn’t work I’d imagine some generational biblical justice would eventually ensue. The realities of fucking up this vaccination program to the extent which many on here believe will happen is biblical in its consequences for the human race. I wouldn’t want to be the poster child for encouraging something like this to the world and have my family taken out if I was wrong or have bounties on their heads when I’m gone. (Which would happen if he got it as wrong as some believe).

BoomAndBustCycle says

They got Madoff and his family to pay up. I don’t think Madoff’s children acquired generational wealth. If people start dying off en masse… Fauci’s family would be sued into oblivion… and if that didn’t work I’d imagine some generational biblical justice would eventually ensue.

Fauci himself cannot be sued. Sure if he raped someone or hit someone with a car and ran he could be sued. He's protected because the vaccine makers are protected. Do you not see the conflict of interest? Like seriously?

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

Also they have families and friends, so their reputation may tarnish some but their families are set for decades to come. Not bad for being a 'not liable' mass maimer.

They got Madoff and his family to pay up. I don’t think Madoff’s children acquired generational wealth. If people start dying off en masse… Fauci’s family would be sued into oblivion… and if that didn’t work I’d imagine some generational biblical justice would eventually ensue.

They ready have immunity. Maddoff never had any immunity. Once a contract is signed and sealed you cannot take back that immunity, at least that's how the US used to function. So Fauxci and the other maimers are not afraid as currently not even civil lawsuits can be brought against maimings caused by the agents.

WookieMan says

Fauci himself cannot be sued. Sure if he raped someone or hit someone with a car and ran he could be sued. He's protected because the vaccine makers are protected. Do you not see the conflict of interest? Like seriously?

They are still hunting down Nazi’s… and sentencing them to death. if Fauci gets this wrong to the extent you believe…. Same will happen to his heirs that inherit his wealth. Don’t care about some supposed immunity… mob justice knows no immunity.

WookieMan says

Do you not see the conflict of interest? Like seriously?

You can't see it if you don't look for it.

There were no explosives in the 3 WTC towers that exploded into a pile of twisted steel.

The Vax causes NO injuries.

BoomAndBustCycle says

if Fauci gets this wrong to the extent you believe…. Same will happen to his heirs that inherit his wealth. Don’t care about some supposed immunity… mob justice knows no immunity.

Not sure what you're talking about. Fauci is golden. He's 100% been wrong on the whole response and continues to be. Why is that? This isn't political. I'm pissed how Trump let him go and not realize Fauci was a sleezy MF'r. Look at AIDS. Guy was involved in it. Had nothing to do with Trump or Biden. He fucked it up. There's no dispute.

WookieMan says

I'm pissed how Trump let him go and not realize Fauci was a sleezy MF'r.

This is now clearly Trump's biggest failure by far.

The second was bowing to the Saudis the moment he got into office.

Still, he was the best president we have had in our lifetimes, in terms of the economy, not starting wars, and defending sanity against the woke zombies.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

I'm pissed how Trump let him go and not realize Fauci was a sleezy MF'r.

This is now clearly Trump's biggest failure by far.

The second was bowing to the Saudis the moment he got into office.

Still, he was the best president we have had in our lifetimes, in terms of the economy, not starting wars, and defending sanity against the woke zombies.

I don't really care about the Saudi shit even though I agree with your point of view. Covid is exponentially worse than some buildings getting hit with planes as bad as it appeared. I just don't believe anything from our government anymore. Not sure if it's by design, but a larger percentage of the country doesn't trust any of it. If you can't trust your government, what's the point of having one?

Fauci for sure, 100% is corrupt. He lies every single time when on TV. You can't just keep saying following the science and not even mention the science. Was getting dressed this morning and heard him on ABC and he's like a broken fucking record. There's no original thought. He spews out predictable bull shit. If you had to take a shot guessing what he'd say you'd be dead.

So why not charge governments at cost? If it didn't make them much money, why are they seeking billions in profits when they should be helping the world during a pandemic.

BoomAndBustCycle says

March 1st, 2000 PFE stock price = $42.22
Aug 27th, 2021 PFE stock price = $46.60

For a company making billions on a vaccine that’s probably the single worst performing stock that’s still in business in the last 20 years.

It's not so bad actually.

With dividends reinvested over that time window, they had an annual CAGR of 5.62%, and a total gain of 224.3%. But, inflation might eat half of that.

Not as good as their 40yr CAGR though, which is about 14%.

Surprisingly, their CAGR since jan 1 2019 to now is only about 9.18%. I would have expected much more.

Hircus says

Surprisingly, their CAGR since jan 1 2019 to now is only about 9.18%. I would have expected much more.

It's all a game. If the stock price shot up it would be obvious. Also, inflation doesn't matter if you get a lump sum in the 7-8 figure range with the dividends. Fauci makes $450k plus. Interest/dividends on bribes could equal that.

He's likely been making millions off big Pharma since AIDS. Compound that over decades I wouldn't be shocked if he's worth $100M plus. Guy hasn't practiced medicine in 40 years. He's the lead on this shit though. You cannot stop greed. I know quite a few people with fuck you money. It never stops. It's a competition for them. Financially or career wise. They'll never be happy until they think they're the top dog.

Hircus says

BoomAndBustCycle says

March 1st, 2000 PFE stock price = $42.22
Aug 27th, 2021 PFE stock price = $46.60

For a company making billions on a vaccine that’s probably the single worst performing stock that’s still in business in the last 20 years.

It's not so bad actually.

With dividends reinvested over that time window, they had an annual CAGR of 5.62%, and a total gain of 224.3%. But, inflation might eat half of that.

Not as good as their 40yr CAGR though, which is about 14%.

Surprisingly, their CAGR since jan 1 2019 to now is only about 9.18%. I would have expected much more.

There was also a stock split in November 2020.

More than Tripling your money in a decade is pretty damn good:

Question. I generally respect all the active users here. Has anyone dealt with trying to sell/get a government contract for work? Not a company you work for, but you personally.

If you haven't worked in that realm whether it be city level, county level or even state level, you really shouldn't be defending Fauci. You don't know the game. This isn't conspiracy theory shit. No interest in leaving a trail anywhere that could incriminate people, but you really don't understand what Fauci is until you've lived the world he's in.

He pulls the levers on billions and maybe trillions of money. If you're in sales to get a medication approved or market it, he's the guy to go to. Nobody would ever throw money, trips or bribes at him..... nah.... couldn't happen. Sarcasm off.

He's not mandated to disclose financials because he's not elected! You can FOIA his government emails. Who cares? Phones still work. Other email addresses. Physical in person meetings. This whole thing may go down as the sickest and most disturbing non-shooting war event in history. You should turn your TV off or skip any link that he has anything to do with. He's 1,000% bought and paid for. He has the out that the science was wrong and holds no liability. THIS is the reason most people should despise the idea of universal healthcare run by government.

Given the decision making power he has. Literally more powerful than POTUS at this point. We should be demanding his tax records and frankly bank account statements. It would open some eyes almost certainly.

WookieMan says

He spews out predictable bull shit. If you had to take a shot guessing what he'd say you'd be dead.

Those 2 sentences go against each other.

WineHorror1 says

WookieMan says

He spews out predictable bull shit. If you had to take a shot guessing what he'd say you'd be dead.

Those 2 sentences go against each other.

I'm not the best writer. The guys is a damn robot for big pharma is all I'm saying If science had a scale of 1-10 as far as accuracy goes, we've gone something like 2, 6, 10, 4, 8 & 9. Every interview I've seen with him or congressional committee meeting, follow the science is mentioned every time.

Masks aren't needed. Not that they didn't work or did work, they weren't needed.

Mask now work. Wear them when inside. He argues it was about PPE and getting supplies to front line health care workers. Ahhhh, fuck the general population. Is that what a doctor is supposed to do?

A vaccine won't be ready (I don't believe it is currently) for 2 years plus.

We're getting spikes in cases, so maybe two masks might be a good idea.

Okay, we have a vaccine. 100% of you should take it with 5-6 months of half assed trials. Again, a doc should be doing this?

Okay, the vaccine isn't working basically, so put the mask on again and get another booster vaccine for the one that didn't work in the first place for breakthrough cases.

When are we supposed to follow the fucking science? NONE of it has worked. We have a flu like airborne virus. Get it and deal. Take supplements, eat healthy and stay active, preferably outdoors. Not much else to the science. Live a healthy life. Not sure why that message isn't being pushed by Fauci. Makes one wonder. Get a vax that doesn't work. Then more of it. Fuck that cunt.

WookieMan says

Hircus says

Surprisingly, their CAGR since jan 1 2019 to now is only about 9.18%. I would have expected much more.

It's all a game. If the stock price shot up it would be obvious.

I'm doubtful that's the reason, or at least I don't see why that would be the reason. Why has both Moderna and biontech shot up 15-20x over those ~2 years? If you say pfizer's stock price is artificially low so as to not draw attention, then why the difference with these stocks? There doesn't seem to be any price caution in them.

I do expect somewhat less of a gain, % wise, from PFE, because they sell other products and so not all of their revenue comes from the jab, unlike those 2 companies. But still, I think recent PFE stock gains are oddly low.